Guest guest Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 Hi mandv m! Well, the way I make it is: w/o access to raw milk, I buy 2 larger cartons of oraganic whipping cream. In evening, I bring it to a boil in saucepan, then cool to yogurt making temp - 108 to 115 degrees. Add a large dollop of good plain yogurt like Stonyfield (I use a kitchen spoonful). Let sit overnight in a warm place. Classical is inside the oven with light on. I boil a couple inches water in a bigger pot, turn a cereal bowl upside down in it, and place my pot of cream in that, cover, wrap with big towel. In the AM you have lucious yogurt cream. I stick it in the fridge to get cold. Later at my convenience, I whip the yogurt cream into butter. I use my Kitchen Aid with wire whisk. Use a collar (out of foil is fine), when the butter splits off from buttermilk, it will splatter. Other people use blender, food processor. This is true buttermilk left over, very healthy. Then I make ghee as usual from this cultured butter. Others may have a other or better methods. It's really so good made this way. Nancy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 Isn't it true that the Indian cow produces milk of a slightly different quality to that of the Jersey strain and cows without the hump? Somewhere in the files here there may be an article about this - so the ghee from such cows would be different and have different qualities - so as we are generally unable to find such milk in Western countries we are still not able to replicate the true ghee? Here we are able to purchase raw milk in a few HFS as sold for " bath milk " - whether we bathe the inside or the outside of our bodies with this is of course an individual choice. Best, Jane w/o access to raw milk, I buy 2 larger cartons of oraganic whipping cream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 i have not seen organic whipping cream any brand you could tell me does this take lon do you just use a manual whisk or a machine to whip the cream? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 It depends on where you live. Here in the midwest, I buy local-ish Organic Valley from the healthfood store. All the equipment I listed to whip the cultured cream into butter are electical. nancy _____________________ > i have not seen organic whipping cream > any brand you could tell me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 ayurveda , " Nancy Phillips " <ayurbalance wrote: > All the equipment I listed to whip the > cultured cream into butter are electical. The science of making ghee should be learnt in Indian villages or Gaushalas. 1. The curd(yogurt) should be fermented in earthen pots. The pots should be raw, not burnt in furnace. These pots have many friendly bacteria pores, which are normally not found in milk. When children play barefoot on ground, they may pick up eggs of intestinal parasites; hence chances of parasites are higher in cities, where open grounds are almost rare. but village children pick up these bacteria pores also. Hence Tribals who walk barefoot most of the time, never get parasites, and may digest anything living under the sky. 2. The equipment should be wooden whip and not metallic. The churning (whipping) should be done slowly in rhythmic oscillating fashion. Compare this with kitchen blender where oscillating direction rotation is generally not found. In ayurveda, all processes of boiling, fermenting, etc are done at slowest practical rates. Speed destroys the affection bonds between particles of the medicine/buttermilk etc. Hence even grinding of floors was being carried out in hand milling using stone mills. This way whole grain was available. The wheat allergies and widespread candidiasis is due to eating incomplete grain. Other than wooden whips, even spoons and other tools are made wooden in some parts of India. In local languages, there are many songs which may be recited while churning the yogurt, wherein Lord Krishna, Gopis appear. This excites vibrations of the mind of the person making buttermilk and they are absorbed by butter and buttermilk. When ayurveda offers mantras to be recited while taking plant parts for medicine, how buttermilk, ghee can be exceptions? Machines do only mechanical job. But we as well as every thing in this world contains spiritual vibrations, which science may capture one day on computer screens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Interesting observations! I have several questions though: So, does this mean that the bacteria pores that the village children pick up along with the parasite eggs destroy those eggs or stop them from producing parasites? Are these friendly bacteria pores? How does the oscillating motion during churning affect the ghee? Isn't GMO also a factor in wheat allergies/problems? If a GMO wheat was stone milled slowly the most traditional way, still, would it not cause the same problems that the GMO wheat produced any other way does? Does this mean that if you were to use " organic " non-GMO stone-milled wheat flour, that would be okay for consumption and not have any problems at all? Thanks, Matt > 2. The equipment should be wooden whip and not > metallic. The churning > (whipping) should be done slowly in rhythmic > oscillating fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 So, does this mean that the bacteria pores that the village children pick up along with the parasite eggs destroy those eggs or stop them from producing parasites? Are these friendly bacteria pores? Soil has many friendly microorganisms which help plants also and humans also. Google search on " Soil Probiotics " will give you much more info. Whole science of Biodynamic farming is based on usage of these friendly organisms. Vermicelli compost is one such product much in demand for farming. Soil probiotics help destroy several pathogenic organisms and their young generation in the GI tract. Parasites are killed by the probiotics. Babies, fed on mothers milk have low probability of picking up worms, it is only formula with higher sugar content that causes worms in babies. Children from affluent countries living far away from village soils develop many more diseases ( 4 times risk) caused by corrupted immune system, the reason could be leaky gut syndrome, disturbed intestinal flora, nowadays to be found in children too: http://www.rxpgnews.com/research/Children-in-affluent-countries-more- likely-to-develop-allergy-related-asthma_63425.shtml Asthma, allergies, ADD, Autism,,the list is endless, is believed to be caused by affluent lifestyle and diet of soft carbs leading to systemic candidiasis http://www.health-science-spirit.com/free-candida.htm Even psychosis, depression seems to be related to poor absorption, cravings for food giving quick spikes in blood sugar, seretonin etc http://www.womentowomen.com/symptoms/cravings.aspx > > How does the oscillating motion during churning affect > the ghee? Oscillatory motion is balancing motion. Everywhere in world balanced state is the one leads to bliss. this motion is for making butter and not ghee. The butter made by two processes is slightly different in hardness, consistency and bonding force. Experiment yourself. The principles of static electricity and molecular forces are at work here. That is the reazon wooden whip should be used. The buttermilk made in ideal way would become an elctrolyte, having better bio- availability. > Isn't GMO also a factor in wheat allergies/problems? > If a GMO wheat was stone milled slowly the most > traditional way, still, would it not cause the same > problems that the GMO wheat produced any other way > does? Does this mean that if you were to use " organic " > non-GMO stone-milled wheat flour, that would be okay > for consumption and not have any problems at all? > modern wheat has been modified to give more resistsnce to certain pests, have more protein content etc.(see post on coconut tree cancer in archives). Now protein is associated with gluten. hence modern wheat will have more allergic potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 ayurveda , Matthew Remley <mattremley wrote: > How does the oscillating motion during churning affect > the ghee? The oscillating motion produces more shearing and turbulence in the yogurt. Many thick fluids, especially Lehyams, jams etc used in ayurvedic medication have a property where they reduce their viscocity when shearing stress is increased. How this property is used scientifically in many applications is discussed here: http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/25apr_cvx2.htm?list1048152 How much fat (from the maximum available) will separate from buttermilk will be determined by harmonic shearing in oscillatory motion. The problem of speddily shearing in a unidirectional whipping in electrical equipment is the heat generated, which also kills probiotics in buttermilk. The ayuvedic medicinal advantage of buttermilk is mainly due to the presence of lactobasillus bacteria present in buttermilk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Dr. Bhate Why would heat be a problem? Later on one needs to heat the butter to make ghee anyway. GB > How much fat (from the maximum available) will separate from buttermilk > will be determined by harmonic shearing in oscillatory motion. The > problem of speddily shearing in a unidirectional whipping in electrical > equipment is the heat generated, which also kills probiotics in > buttermilk. The ayuvedic medicinal advantage of buttermilk is mainly > due to the presence of lactobasillus bacteria present in buttermilk. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 > Why would heat be a problem? Later on one needs to heat the butter to > make ghee anyway. Heat is OK as far as butter is concerned; what about buttermilk? We refrigerate curd, buttermilk, so that the lactobasilus culture does'nt get over populated turning it sour. Today, the medicinal value of buttermilk is as much as ghee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Hello. I have already tried to use the solar cooking. And one of the first things that I have made has been ghee (with butter). It is best ghee that I have done. It leaves best and without needing warming up to 50 deg. C. It doesn't have anything to do with controls in the traditional kitchen. And in addition. it catches the energy of the sun, which improves its qualities. A question, ghee done with butter, considers good ghee? or also the one that this made with the buffalo butter. Excusse my english. Be happy. Guadalupe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 the ghee i make is used using butter. of course there are always better ways of making ghee as methods that were once lost should surface with great exchange. i hoping that i can learn to prepare a better ghee. oh one more thing ghee is the great mahathailam. it has been used in war battles as a salve for wounds and has great curative properties. it is also cooling on the body and so is anti-pitta in its effect. namaskar, __________ Raja Gursahani (: 559.474.8576 ,: rajagursahani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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