Guest guest Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Thank you Todd and everyone, I appreciate the feedback. I think only one person here told me it ( " cold " ) milk does not cause mucous while the rest said it does. Well, I'm inclined to agree with those who said it does. And yes, thank you for telling me to trust my own experience. My children could never have such milk when they were sick as I could see right before my eyes, their increase of mucous. Good point here: >there was no refrigeration before 150 years back, and so there was never any cold milk to start with< Exactly. And sometimes I forget that. Thank you for reminding me. I guess I did think someone would have ayurvedic scientific studies only because the opposite was all over the news, but its fine with me if they dont. My trust is in the ancient sages & Danvanthari, not the mundane scientists. YS, Prtha devi dasi ___________ > probably nobody is interested in funding serious medical research to > see if cold milk causes more mucus or not - however, if you apply > ayurvedic principles and your own experience you will easily > understand that it does........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 ayurveda , " Prtha (Priitaa) devi dasi " <Prtha_devi_dasi wrote: > I think only one person here told me it > ( " cold " ) milk does not cause mucous while the rest said it does. Well, > I'm inclined to agree with those who said it does. There are some general guidelines in acient texts. Even ancient texts recognize that there can be controversies. Though general guidelines exist, there can be exceptions. THough a child gets born every minute on earth, no two finger prints are alike, and so also no constitutions are alike. Small differences exist between all of us. That is why, author has given tests to find out what suits everyone, be it food, milk, grain, meat or even a medicine. please visit ayurveda/message/3055 ayurveda/message/4511 Body itself reveals what it likes and what it dislikes. We consider ourselves intelligent, but every cell has intelligence, can become happy, depressed, cry or dance with joy. The music of these cells is apparent in pulse, moods, pains, inflamation, itch etc After seeing some healthy octagenerians who were taking a diet which ayurveda describes as incompatible, author meditated on these and found some revolutionary principles, which he has posted in this list from time to time. Be it west or east, you become what you eat is a universal principle, provided your body accepts it. Siblings may differ in allergies, tastes, likes etc. Truly, everyone is unique. One may find helpful advise in the posts here, but everyone should seek the advise of a vaidya if convenient. Though milk is generally known to create mucous, same milk when taken in proper manner will drive out that mucous, as seen in the case of a 2.5 year old boy, suffering from chest congestion, posted in the list! Irrespective of fat content, lactose content, by doing samskars on milk, one can make it compatible. Some loss is inevitable in vitamin, enzymes etc. At the same time, some samskaras can make it difficult to digest also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Dear Dr. Bhate: Could you please elaborate more on the following excerpts from your posting? What does Ayurveda deem an incompatible diet for Octagenerians? Also, the healthy octagenerians that you came across, how incompatible was their diet? Here, I am trying to get a sense of how far off diets can be tolerated given a person's uniqueness. Other than the uniqueness dictated by the " prakriti " and " vikriti " of an individual, what other factors come into play, in your opinion? How is a " samaskara " done on a food item? What does it involve? Thanks in advance, Matt ______________________________ After seeing some healthy octagenerians who were taking a diet which ayurveda describes as incompatible, author meditated on these and found some revolutionary principles, which he has posted in this list from time to time. Be it west or east, you become what you eat is a universal principle, provided your body accepts it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 ayurveda , Matthew Remley <mattremley wrote: > What does Ayurveda deem an incompatible diet for Octagenerians? Also, the healthy octagenerians that you came across, how incompatible was their diet? Here, I am trying to get a sense of how far off diets can be tolerated given a person's uniqueness. Milk is considered incompatible with several fruits (mostly acidic ones), legumes, non vegetarian foods. Saurashtra is the region of Gujarat streching from Rajkot to Dwaraka. Many old people were noted to eat Khitchri made from Mung dhal with milk for dinner. All were healthy, having good eyesight, hearing etc and some were beyond 90. They told they have been eating this diet for life time. Similar observations were made in Kutch and Rajastan also. In many temples and ashrams Khitchri is served with either milk or Kadhi. There is a proverb in Gujarati: One who eats Bajra roti with curd for breakfast and takes milk in dinner, Vaidya will never visit his house. Author too tried this diet and did not find any problem. Many fertility boosting sweets are made by cooking grains/legumes in milk or by adding ghee. Puranpoli of Maharashtra is often taken with milk. It contains Chana dhal, which is incompatible with milk according to common knowledge. What is the secret here? Those with strong agni and Pitta constitution are able to digest milk even with legumes, and do not find any immediate indigestion problems. Long term problems such as vitiligo, psoriasis, asthma were not seen for such individuals. And when milk is taken in the evening, it has gone through two heatings, making it less problematic for such people! That is what this author calls samskaras. Other warming herbs (sunth, pepper etc) have been already discussed earlier. More importantly, incompatible diet is believed to be one reason for vatic problems. But looking at the health of these octagenarians, they defied this belief also. Strong agni burns(digests, converts into bhasma) everything, and does not leave any ama to worry. Chemistry equations apparently do not hold here. Such observations hold true in regions where scorching summer is seen, arid regions with less ground water makes people with pitta dominant constitution. Frequent famines, starvation teaches the body techniques to squeeze everything possible out of the diet. You will see that the herbs/grains/vegetables available in geographical regions are precisely the ones needed there for people. > How is a " samaskara " done on a food item? What does it involve? boiling milk with herbs and other food items reduce its problems making it more easily digestible. This is samskara. many other samsakaras can be witnessed in indian kitchen. an instance of less common samskara is taking a heated iron or steel rod and quenching it in water. This makes water very sharp for digestion. a stone can be heated and also quenched in water. ancient texts mention such samskaras which are slowly no more seen in practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 When some incompatible foods are eaten for a long time, body adapts to them somehow. Some samskaras are additionaly discussed at: http://www.ayurveda.com/online%20resource/food_combining.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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