Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Honey!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.indianjsurg.com/article.asp?issn=0972-2068;year=2004;volume=66;issue=2;spage=75;epage=77;aulast=Subrahmanyam http://www.honeyo.com/honeyhealing.shtml http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/458834_3 Jane MacRoss <highfield1 wrote: What are the latest thoughts on Gangrene - at the moment I am attending a patient who has recently had all his toes removed due to Gangrene! In this day & age is this all medical science has to offer? What might "Alt Med" offer then - its too late for this poor guy but others may arrive in time for some assistance! I vaguely have memories of Ledum & Lachesis to no avail for another gentleman back in the 60's when we all worked on a case together........ Was wondering how DMSO & MII would got with this type of thing too. Best, Jane Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 What are the latest thoughts on Gangrene - at the moment I am attending a patient who has recently had all his toes removed due to Gangrene! In this day & age is this all medical science has to offer? What might " Alt Med " offer then - its too late for this poor guy but others may arrive in time for some assistance! I vaguely have memories of Ledum & Lachesis to no avail for another gentleman back in the 60's when we all worked on a case together........ Was wondering how DMSO & MII would got with this type of thing too. Best, Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 My quadriplegic son used to have a chiropractor come to the house to give him therapy. I was talking to him one time and he told me about a fellow in the hospital that had gangrene in his foot. The guy's doctor was going to amputate and the therapist asked if he could have three days with the guy. After much discussion the doctor relented and the therapist went to work. With two tubs of water, one as hot as the guy could stand and the other full of ice cubes and water, the therapist started immersing the fellow's foot first in one and then the other, back and forth he went. I tried this on an infected thumb. The hot water makes it feel swollen up and the cold water shrinks it. That was a real crazy sensation. It creates a pumping action that pumps new blood into the infected area forcing the old blood out. My thumb quit throbbing and the infection left. The therapist did this for three days and saved the foot. Harvey - Bea Bernhausen Thursday, February 28, 2008 10:25 PM Re: Gangrene Honey!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.indianjsurg.com/article.asp?issn=0972-2068;year=2004;volume=66;issue=2;spage=75;epage=77;aulast=Subrahmanyam http://www.honeyo.com/honeyhealing.shtml http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/458834_3 Jane MacRoss <highfield1 (AT) activ8 (DOT) net.au> wrote: What are the latest thoughts on Gangrene - at the moment I am attending a patient who has recently had all his toes removed due to Gangrene! In this day & age is this all medical science has to offer? What might "Alt Med" offer then - its too late for this poor guy but others may arrive in time for some assistance! I vaguely have memories of Ledum & Lachesis to no avail for another gentleman back in the 60's when we all worked on a case together........ Was wondering how DMSO & MII would got with this type of thing too. Best, Jane .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Thanks guys - appreciated - for next time Best, Jane - Harvey Flatbush Friday, February 29, 2008 6:37 PM Re: Gangrene My quadriplegic son used to have a chiropractor come to the house to give him therapy. I was talking to him one time and he told me about a fellow in the hospital that had gangrene in his foot. The guy's doctor was going to amputate and the therapist asked if he could have three days with the guy. After much discussion the doctor relented and the therapist went to work. With two tubs of water, one as hot as the guy could stand and the other full of ice cubes and water, the therapist started immersing the fellow's foot first in one and then the other, back and forth he went. I tried this on an infected thumb. The hot water makes it feel swollen up and the cold water shrinks it. That was a real crazy sensation. It creates a pumping action that pumps new blood into the infected area forcing the old blood out. My thumb quit throbbing and the infection left. The therapist did this for three days and saved the foot. Harvey - Bea Bernhausen Thursday, February 28, 2008 10:25 PM Re: Gangrene Honey!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.indianjsurg.com/article.asp?issn=0972-2068;year=2004;volume=66;issue=2;spage=75;epage=77;aulast=Subrahmanyam http://www.honeyo.com/honeyhealing.shtml http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/458834_3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Hi Jane, I wonder if Virastop would work? http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1 & pid=3609 & at=0 Its a proteolytic enzyme formula that supposedly cleans the blood of unwanted proteins, viruses, etc. I just ordered me a bottle. Josephine -- In , " Jane MacRoss " <highfield1 wrote: > > Thanks guys - appreciated - for next time > > Best, > > Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 , " Jane MacRoss " <highfield1 wrote: > > What are the latest thoughts on Gangrene - at the moment I am attending a patient who has recently had all his toes removed due to Gangrene! In this day & age is this all medical science has to offer? What might " Alt Med " offer then - its too late for this poor guy but others may arrive in time for some assistance! Hi Jane, Clay packs made of good quality hydrated bentonite will not only ease pain and be very soothing, but also have the added benefits of bringing better circulation to the area treated, adsorbing toxins, and drawing out infection. Clays are remarkable for all kinds of healing, and besides being used as packs and poultices, they can also be taken internally and used in baths as well. http://www.eytonsearth.org/using-clay-externally.php http://tinyurl.com/2pdclu Activated charcoal is another excellent detoxifier which can be used both internally as well as externally to adsorb poisons and draw out infection from wounds. http://healingtools.tripod.com/char2.html http://www.quantumbalancing.com/activatedcharcoal.htm Cayenne pepper is renowned for increasing circulation in the body, and can be taken internally to help encourage blood flow to extremities if it's too painful to apply directly to the affected tissue externally. Providing the most superior nutrition possible, perhaps including fresh, raw juiced organic vegetables as well as some good quality trace mineral supplementation, is always beneficial whenever any infection is present, as is making sure the pathways of elimination - particularly the bowels - are functioning properly, in order for wastes and toxins to be removed from the body in a timely manner. Hydrogen peroxide and ozone are a couple of other alternative options that might be worth looking into with regards to treating gangrene. And this link might also be of interest: http://www.herballegacy.org/Gangrene.html elan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Great sites, thanks elan - the Dr Christopher's site is wonderful - full of great info ..... Best, Jane - " elan_spire " <elan_spire Friday, February 29, 2008 7:57 PM Re: Gangrene , " Jane MacRoss " <highfield1 wrote: > > What are the latest thoughts on Gangrene - at the moment I am attending a patient who has recently had all his toes removed due to Gangrene! In this day & age is this all medical science has to offer? What might " Alt Med " offer then - its too late for this poor guy but others may arrive in time for some assistance! Hi Jane, Clay packs made of good quality hydrated bentonite will not only ease pain and be very soothing, but also have the added benefits of bringing better circulation to the area treated, adsorbing toxins, and drawing out infection. Clays are remarkable for all kinds of healing, and besides being used as packs and poultices, they can also be taken internally and used in baths as well. http://www.eytonsearth.org/using-clay-externally.php http://tinyurl.com/2pdclu Activated charcoal is another excellent detoxifier which can be used both internally as well as externally to adsorb poisons and draw out infection from wounds. http://healingtools.tripod.com/char2.html http://www.quantumbalancing.com/activatedcharcoal.htm Cayenne pepper is renowned for increasing circulation in the body, and can be taken internally to help encourage blood flow to extremities if it's too painful to apply directly to the affected tissue externally. Providing the most superior nutrition possible, perhaps including fresh, raw juiced organic vegetables as well as some good quality trace mineral supplementation, is always beneficial whenever any infection is present, as is making sure the pathways of elimination - particularly the bowels - are functioning properly, in order for wastes and toxins to be removed from the body in a timely manner. Hydrogen peroxide and ozone are a couple of other alternative options that might be worth looking into with regards to treating gangrene. And this link might also be of interest: http://www.herballegacy.org/Gangrene.html elan «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» § - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! § Subscribe:......... - «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» DISCLOSURE: Any information here in is for educational purpose only; it may be news related, purely speculation or SOMEONE'S OPINION. Always consult with a qualified Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. SUBMISSION POLICY & CONDITION OF MEMBERSHIP: By becoming a member of this group you AGREE to hold this group its members, list owners, moderators and affiliates harmless of any liability for any direct, consequential, incidental, damage incurred. Anything going to this list may eventually be posted on another list. If you post a piece to the list. We reserve the right to attach your name and email address to the piece, as well as to keep them on record. You should NOT post copyrighted material unless proper attributions to the source of the material are made. Submissions are gladly accepted. Please feel free to post material that you think is worthy. YOU AGREE; to accept responsibility and liability for your own actions and to contact a licensed Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE; you must : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Look up serrapeptase and read about it. It does the same thing and I take it and it works. jlkinkona <josephine Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:20:07 AM Re: Gangrene Hi Jane,I wonder if Virastop would work?http://www.iherb. com/ProductDetai ls.aspx?c= 1 & pid=3609 & at=0Its a proteolytic enzyme formula that supposedlycleans the blood of unwanted proteins, viruses, etc.I just ordered me a bottle.Josephine-- In , "Jane MacRoss"<highfield1@ ...> wrote:>> Thanks guys - appreciated - for next time> > Best,> > Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 well i think once some one has gone to the point of having their body rot it is a bit late in the day to repair. One needs to treat before it gets to this point. I have ssne most of the cases in gangrene with diabetics, alcoholics and so a life style change is usually in order long before they come for treatment. Bitter and astringent herbs would prevent this for those with diabetes. ___ What are the latest thoughts on Gangrene..........What might " Alt Med " offer ..........Was wondering how DMSO & MII would got with this type of thing too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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