Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Could anyone please let me know their personal experience with Dr.Naram. I plan to meet him soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 There have been an interesting thread about Dr. Pankaj Naram back in 2005/2006, I just tried to access this through the group archives to give you a reference, but the search function is not showing these. ??? ____________________ Could anyone please let me know their personal experience with Dr.Naram. I plan to meet him soon. [Moderator: The search function provided by is working for last one year messages only!, this necessitates that search be made manually] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 They show all the posts from my pc - just type Naram into the search slot Jane ____________ > There have been an interesting thread about Dr. Pankaj Naram back in > 2005/2006, I just tried to access this through the group archives to > give you a reference, but the search function is not showing these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 My friend went to Pankaj Naram several years ago and she had a horrible experience. She did panchakarma and it was so excessive that she was sick when she left and it took over six months for her to recover. She still has problems that she attributes to that period. She also went home with over 15 medicines, she said that those medicines also made her sick. She talked to an Ayurveda doctor who evaluated those medicines and told her that a large percentage of them had pipali in them and this was causing her to overheat, he also said that since she was taking big handfuls of them several times a day this was too dry and too bitter and had horribly disturbed her digestion which was the source of many of her problems. After stopping those medicines she felt better within a week. Remember Naram makes money off of selling medicines and gives as many of them as possible to every patient. My friends doctor also said that this way of prescrbing medicines was definitely not Ayurveda. Which is not surprising, as was dissused here at length several years ago, Pankaj Naram is not a physician, he has never studied medicine of any kind, he only is allowed to practice medicine because he fell under the grandfather clause when the BAMS system was instituted in the early 80s in India. There are many stories of him being confronted on basic questions in Ayurveda and he can not answer them. He has invented his own system which has no relationship to true Ayurveda except he uses similar terms. I took one of his classes on pulse diagnosis in California and it was instantly apparent that he knew nothing about it, he talks about something he calls Vata/Pitta/Kapaha but this is not the VPK we read about in the books on Ayurveda. Some one asked him a question about basic physiology and he said he did not know about physiology and that he would have to ask his wife, this will be his answer to almost any question. My impression is that he is nothing more than a very skilled self promoter not a doctor. He told us that he studies motivational speakers like Tony Robbins, I think this is why he has gotten rich selling medicines not because of any medical knowledge. One thing I did not like was he takes advantage of people who can not really afford to take the many medicines he prescribes. He is a self promoter and has gotten rich doing that. He constantly lies about many things including his qualifications and his relationship to famous people. He is a phony top to bottom. I have been told that he is despised throughout Ayurveda circles in India. If you want to go to an Ayurvedic doctor why not go to one that has actually studied Ayurveda and who actually practices Ayurveda as it has been described in the Ayurvedic texts, not just something made up to trick people? I don't know why the posts about him were deleted, I did notice that Dr. Bhate recently wrote about Naram as a respected Vaidya, I have always heard the opposite and was surprised to read that Dr. Bhate wrote that, how can Naram be a respected Vaidya when he isn't a Vaidya at all. Even a beginner like me saw clearly that he knew very little about Ayurveda, I knew more than he does, I didn't respect his medical knowledge at all. I didn't learn anything from his class neither did anyone else there. In fact in the class I took he spent at least 75% of the time talking about how wonderful he is, actually I found him borish. Why not go to Dr. Bhate's clinic in Bombay? He has actually studied Ayurveda, unlike Naram. There are hundreds of famous doctors and clinics throughout India. ________ > Could anyone please let me know their personal experience with > Dr.Naram. I plan to meet him soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 This is simply highly revealing.The couple are quite famous and always quote a large number of very successful miraculous cure and immediate relief etc in very complicated and chronic cases.Their success rates are in thousands only.The couple these days are also seen on TV talking about home prescription etc.They talk about their popularity in Italy, Germany, US, England Sweden etc.Their reach is rather growing.If the above is even partially true it is matter of grave concern and community has a duty to society to warn the people about it and if possible weed it out. __________ > My friend went to Pankaj Naram several years ago and she had a > horrible experience............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 I ordered a remedy from a woman here in Australia because I was having difficulty obtaining this Ayurvedic remedy elsewhere and the Newsletter I received with the remedy was full of glowing reports about the Narams and their world wide successes. I have never heard of any of the Vaidyas on this list praising this couple. Best, Jane ___ This is simply highly revealing.The couple are quite famous and always quote a large number of very successful miraculous cure and immediate relief etc in very complicated and chronic cases.Their success rates are in thousands only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 It is time some more knowledgeable about the couple, preferably Mumbai based, may very kindly enlighten the group about the couple.This will be a great service to all.Let us on our part try our best to encourage the best and try to eliminate/weed out the undesirables .However, we should be careful not to target the genuine and sincere ones purely on personal reasons.I am sure some good samaritan will throw some light and lead us. ________ I have never heard of any of the Vaidyas on this list praising this couple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Yes it is true about the naram and their shady practice the reason being that if true authentic ayurveda is unleashed it will change the entire healthcare system as we know it therefore what happens is the elite allow quacks like him to confuse the public by acting very unethical this is basically a healthcare conspiracy because of the fear of the changing of the guard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 There was an old in depth thread of the Naram problem some years ago. It has been deleted as all of the other posts from years past. Dr Kumar knows a lot about this maybe he would repost some of his comments. There are several people from back in those days who posted on Naram and told the story of his amazing success with no qualifications at all, perhaps some of them are still here and would add to the discussion. I just replied to a letter to someone in this group. I wrote him that my analysis of the Naram problem is something like this. Naram is the same as the many of thousands of people who own and set in Ayurvdic chemist shops throughout India with no real training in Ayurveda and certainly no certifications as Vaidyas, they are simply medicine salesmen. The difference between those people and Naram is that he is a master self promoter and has gotten rich selling medicines and they have not. He sells the same products that they do but he goes on TV promoting himself and builds big clinics, has his photo taken with famous people, and goes in foreign countries selling medicines, he has gotten rich doing this. But as far as qualifications to practice medicine, his is no more than any chemist shop salesman, he never took any BAMS exams therefore is not really a Vaidya. He is a medicine salesman, a master salesman but not a Vaidya, and there is a very big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 At first it would appear that the postings of the previous thread about Naram from 2005 are no longer available in the group archives, as they could not be found through the forum search function. I have double checked and done multiple searches with no result. Searching manually through the dates I found the postings to BE there, so there is a TECHNICAL ERROR of some sorts with 's forum search function, which I will report to . Fortunately, I kept a compiled copy of all those postings in the full duration of this particular thread about Dr Pankaj Naram, from 11th March - 20th April 2005. Since the moderator seems to have restricted the Files area to themselves only, I am not able to upload a text file with these. I am therefore posting them here below in this posting in their chronological order for all with an interest to read. [moderator adds :- Ability to upload files is restricted to moderators as lot of unwanted files were being uploaded when the option was open for all. Members can send their files to moderators and they will be uploaded giving them due credit. All members have the ability to download these files. No messages since the beginning of the group have been deleted after they were posted except for rare occasions. Unfortunately for some reason earlier messages do not show up in search. A manual search however shows these messages. Alstrup's collection have been added as a file. It can be accessed at http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/cFDKR8PvinZSW8Ij7Lj8gkn9e-jG_dc227ggXa-j8rE8Wb82Iji\ Tq_s2jsbFHz23UJC5VEG1iq8ACqVtaLwa/alstrup-naram.txt ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Dr Bhashyam, Thank you for your input. What exactly are they claiming on TV, is it local commercials on Mumbai TV? Their their reach in the western countries is extremely limited, if they were covered in national media, you would instantly read the promotion about it on their own website with media references and we do not see this. ~Ole ___________ The couple these days are also seen on TV talking about home prescription etc.They talk about their popularity in Italy, Germany, US, England Sweden etc.Their reach is rather growing.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Dear Moderator, Thanks for uploading the thread as a file, however the url is not working when you click the link, it says document is not found. I went manually and found it at a different url http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/sIjKR_TFwFOIHXGhTmCk46yIQs5CQVSCyeE_RyizD_2MM6OpmFJ\ cJhQH3MlOIbHWSVtPRfb0MTjnYaXIgfTMjbG_CfS4/alstrup-naram.txt ~Ole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 ayurveda , " Liz A Hall " <lizahallny wrote: > I don't know why the posts about him were deleted, I did notice that > Dr. Bhate recently wrote about Naram as a respected Vaidya, I have > always heard the opposite and was surprised to read that Dr. Bhate > wrote that, how can Naram be a respected Vaidya when he isn't a Vaidya > at all. Dear Liz The misunderstanding about the posts being deleted is already resolved, with the messages having been dug up and stored as a file. However, author does not recollect having written anything about him. Will you be kind enough to post the link, message serial number or the matter itself where you noticed it. Even if you inform the date on which such a message was posted it is adequate, since maintains complete record of approved or rejected messages. This is important, as otherwise there can arise some misunderstanding in the moderators of this group, which should not occur, having worked together for many years, with only soul-to-soul communication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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