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Andrea -

 

This sounds like a case of Pomphylix Eczema. When the condition begins are

the area itchy or painful? Are there any vesicles? Typically, Pomphylyx

Eczema begins with a vesicular stage which is very itchy. This is then

followed by a dry desquamating phase - at which time the itching is greatly

reduced.

 

The first attack is typically triggered by hot weather - many patients

(like yourself) only have eruptions during the summer. Very much

associated with excessive hand washing (a hazard of the job!). It must be

differentiated from

Fungus - since it is symmetrical and goes away with the change in

weather it is probably not fungal

Psoriasis - usually better in sunlight, not worse. Also, usually

affects greater areas of the body,.

 

The following information is all from Mazin Al-Khafaji. I have treated

this condition very successfully using these ideas. Hand care is

especially important.

 

When treating dermatology it is sometimes necessary to overlook other

presenting patterns in order to resolve the skin issues. Surprisingly,

other things will often resolve even though you don't expect them to.

 

Pompholyz Exczema at its root is generally a replete damp condition with a

tendency to fire-toxins

 

Initial stage (vesicular)

Dran damp heat, clear fire toxin, stop itch

 

Second stage

continue above, disperse wind, remove very bitter damp heat herbs.

 

Most common form:

LV/GB Damp Heat w/ fire toxin

 

Long Dan Cao 9

ZHi Zi 9

Bai Ji Li 12

Sheng Di 12

Lian Qiao 12

Mu Tong 9

Gan Cao 6

Huang Qin 9

Bai Xian Pi 12

Mu Dan Pi 9

Zi Hua Di Ding 12

Pu Gong Ying 12

Che Qian Zi 12

 

Many things one can do to personalize depending upon individual condition.

Once condition resolves, regular the liver

EXTERNAL TREATMENT: best if used w/ internal treatment

 

Steam and then soak affected area 2 times/day for 15 -20 mintes - ONLY

during acute phase

Wang Bu Liu Xing 30g / Ming Fan 10g

 

Also could be QI and Blood vacuity w/ fire toxin - fewer vesicles, mostly

just dry

Stubborn, fissured skin w/ few vesicles

Itch tends to be mild/moderate; low vitality

 

Sheng Di 15 - 25

Bai Ji Li 20

JinYin Hua 12

Ye Ju Hua 12

Dang Gui 9

He Shou Wu 12

Gan Cao 4

Mu Dan Pi 9

Chan Tui 9

Bai Hua She She Cao 15

Bai ZHu 12

Bai Shao 15

HUang Qi 15

 

HAND CARE

Wash hands as infrequently as possible. Avoid soap or use very sparingly

Dry hands VERY well with a clean towel or with Ming Fan.

Shampoo, lotions, etc. should all be applied whilewearing plastic gloves or

by somebody else

Avoid direct contact with household detergents, cleaners etc. Wear cotton

or plastic gloves when doing housework (or cotton under plastic)

Avoid exposing hands to know irritants (fresh fruits, vegetables, meat,

wool) Wear warm gloves in cold weather

Use plastic rather than rubeer gloves (rubber can aggravate the condition)

Wear cotton gloves under the plastic.

Change gloves frequently

COntinue to follow these instructions for 4 - 6 months after hands have

healed.

 

If you are interested in dermatology and ever have the opportunity to study

with Mazin it is an excellent class - the best CE I have ever taken.

 

Marnae

 

At 03:46 PM 9/9/2005, you wrote:

 

>Hi All,

>

>

>

>I have a peculiar and puzzling skin problem that I'd like help

>with. Every summer, after it's been hot and humid already for a few

>months, the skin on the palmar side of the distal phalanxes of my fingers

>disappears, as if it evaporates slowly over a few weeks. It doesn't peel,

>it doesn't flake, it just disappears. It starts in the center of the pad

>of one thumb, then on the other thumb a week or so later. The next

>fingers to do this are the middle fingers, and then finally the

>forefingers. The ring fingers and pinkies are never involved. As the

>skin exfoliates, the exposed area is tender, dry, very deep red at times,

>and quite sensitive - especially to heat. Sometimes the exposed areas

>resemble a geographic tongue without a coat, all pebbly-wrinkled and

>lacking substance. I should mention that the fingers in my hands swell on

>and off during the summer, making wearing my usual rings a little

>difficult at times.

>

>

>

>The skin will initially become dry and hardened, and then a naked

>(exfoliated) spot appears. It will grow outward in a more or less

>circular pattern, and eventually an irregular oval covers the entire pad

>of the phalanx. All along the circumference of the exposed skin it is

>often deeply and brightly red, and most tender. Often new skin will start

>to regrow where the exfoliation began, before the rest of the phalanx is

>denuded. Sometimes the phalanx will start to exfoliate all over again -

>either the newly regrown skin or a deeper layer beneath the first, which

>is particularly painful. This disappearing of skin can recur several

>times before it spontaneously discontinues. Sometimes it will completely

>heal over before it begins again a week or so later.

>

>

>

>This year, I moved to a new climate - high desert. Previously, I had

>lived all my life near the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, and I expected it

>to be less humid here in the summer than by the sea, but to my surprise it

>isn't. This skin problem started about 7 years ago when I relocated to

>San Diego after living many years in northern California. Every year, it

>would show up in July and subside around September or October. I thought

>the new climate was going to enable me to escape it this year, but it just

>showed up later than usual - a couple of weeks ago.

>

>

>

>Clearly, there is an element of dampness (hands swelling and worse in

>humidity), a component of heat (deep redness and worse in summer), and

>also, puzzlingly, an aspect of dryness (better with moisturizer at

>night). If I don't put moisturizer on my hands before I go to sleep, I

>will wake up in the middle of the night with my hands feeling hot, dry,

>swollen, tight, and painful - not just the areas of the skin problem, but

>the entire hands, fingers in particular. Often I will need to put on more

>moisturizer in the middle of the night, but I never need it during the

>day. Usually I don't like using the feel of moisturizers on my

>skin. Oily herbal preparations make the exposed skin even more dark red

>and tender. Could this be a manifestation of yin deficiency heat - heat

>in the five centers (hands, particularly), aggravated by hot weather? I

>don't have heat symptoms like this anywhere else, though I am much more

>frequently uncomfortably warm since moving here, especially in early

> evening, which is oddly also our hottest time of day.

>

>

>

>Also, while the skin on the palm side of my fingers is disappearing, I

>have a few patches of " excess skin " on the back side of my hands -

>psoriasis; this is present all year and sometimes itches.

>

>

>

>I don't use any different skin products during the summer than I use the

>rest of the year, so it's not an issue of seasonal exposure to

>something. If anything, I use fewer products during the summer. In

>particular, the dish soap I use year-round irritates it the most but only

>while the skin condition is present, and sometimes I will wear gloves when

>washing dishes in the summer to prevent this, but this year I haven't worn

>gloves at all.

>

>

>

>I'm 49 years old, still (!) perimenopausal with regular, scanty periods

>that are starting to come at longer intervals (31-34 days). In general, I

>have a spleen qi deficiency damp constitution with stagnant liver qi and

>also blood deficiency and stagnation (varicose veins). Kidney and lung

>qi, and kidney and stomach yin are a little deficient. All my life I had

>been cold, until the last couple of years. In western medical terms, I

>have a history of airborn and food allergies, asthma (in cold air), eczema

>(in hot and extremely humid weather), frequent strep throats as a teenager

>(with lots of antibiotics), mononucleosis in my twenties which knocked me

>on my butt for many years with fatigue and lowered immunity, and

>fibromyalgia since 1978. GERD and irritable bowel syndrome have been

>resolved for over 10 years.

>

>

>

>Pulse has always been rapid. Used to be 104 beats/minute until using TCM,

>now is about 90-94, with extremely low blood pressure all my life

>(80/50). Pulse is typically weak, medium depth, soft but sometimes

>slippery. Slightly thin and slightly wiry on the left side.

>

>

>

>Tongue is pale, slightly dusky, puffy, slightly scalloped with a few

>superficial transverse cracks in the center. Sides are bare of coat and

>pale, tip is slightly red. Coat is thin, white and slightly greasy.

>

>

>

>Hot, damp, and yet also dry. Any clues about diagnosis and treatments

>(internal and topical) would be greatly appreciated.

>

>

>

>Thank you,

>

>

>

>

>

> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

>

>

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Andrea Beth

 

In addition, this can (rarely) manifest as a Spleen Damp HEat with Fire

Toxin pattern, but it more commonly involves the feet, or is accomanied by

diarrhea / foul stools, poor appetite, bloating, fullness

T: pale w/ white/yellow fur

 

Cang ZHu 9

Huang Lian 9

Fu Ling 12

Bai Xian Pi 12

Bai Jiang Cao 12

Lian Qiao 12

Gan Cao 4

Bi Xie 12

Huang Lian 6

Che Qian ZI 12

Di Fu Zi 12

ZIHua Di Ding 15

Sha Ren 6

 

Marnae

 

At 03:46 PM 9/9/2005, you wrote:

 

>Hi All,

>

>

>

>I have a peculiar and puzzling skin problem that I'd like help

>with. Every summer, after it's been hot and humid already for a few

>months, the skin on the palmar side of the distal phalanxes of my fingers

>disappears, as if it evaporates slowly over a few weeks. It doesn't peel,

>it doesn't flake, it just disappears. It starts in the center of the pad

>of one thumb, then on the other thumb a week or so later. The next

>fingers to do this are the middle fingers, and then finally the

>forefingers. The ring fingers and pinkies are never involved. As the

>skin exfoliates, the exposed area is tender, dry, very deep red at times,

>and quite sensitive - especially to heat. Sometimes the exposed areas

>resemble a geographic tongue without a coat, all pebbly-wrinkled and

>lacking substance. I should mention that the fingers in my hands swell on

>and off during the summer, making wearing my usual rings a little

>difficult at times.

>

>

>

>The skin will initially become dry and hardened, and then a naked

>(exfoliated) spot appears. It will grow outward in a more or less

>circular pattern, and eventually an irregular oval covers the entire pad

>of the phalanx. All along the circumference of the exposed skin it is

>often deeply and brightly red, and most tender. Often new skin will start

>to regrow where the exfoliation began, before the rest of the phalanx is

>denuded. Sometimes the phalanx will start to exfoliate all over again -

>either the newly regrown skin or a deeper layer beneath the first, which

>is particularly painful. This disappearing of skin can recur several

>times before it spontaneously discontinues. Sometimes it will completely

>heal over before it begins again a week or so later.

>

>

>

>This year, I moved to a new climate - high desert. Previously, I had

>lived all my life near the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, and I expected it

>to be less humid here in the summer than by the sea, but to my surprise it

>isn't. This skin problem started about 7 years ago when I relocated to

>San Diego after living many years in northern California. Every year, it

>would show up in July and subside around September or October. I thought

>the new climate was going to enable me to escape it this year, but it just

>showed up later than usual - a couple of weeks ago.

>

>

>

>Clearly, there is an element of dampness (hands swelling and worse in

>humidity), a component of heat (deep redness and worse in summer), and

>also, puzzlingly, an aspect of dryness (better with moisturizer at

>night). If I don't put moisturizer on my hands before I go to sleep, I

>will wake up in the middle of the night with my hands feeling hot, dry,

>swollen, tight, and painful - not just the areas of the skin problem, but

>the entire hands, fingers in particular. Often I will need to put on more

>moisturizer in the middle of the night, but I never need it during the

>day. Usually I don't like using the feel of moisturizers on my

>skin. Oily herbal preparations make the exposed skin even more dark red

>and tender. Could this be a manifestation of yin deficiency heat - heat

>in the five centers (hands, particularly), aggravated by hot weather? I

>don't have heat symptoms like this anywhere else, though I am much more

>frequently uncomfortably warm since moving here, especially in early

> evening, which is oddly also our hottest time of day.

>

>

>

>Also, while the skin on the palm side of my fingers is disappearing, I

>have a few patches of " excess skin " on the back side of my hands -

>psoriasis; this is present all year and sometimes itches.

>

>

>

>I don't use any different skin products during the summer than I use the

>rest of the year, so it's not an issue of seasonal exposure to

>something. If anything, I use fewer products during the summer. In

>particular, the dish soap I use year-round irritates it the most but only

>while the skin condition is present, and sometimes I will wear gloves when

>washing dishes in the summer to prevent this, but this year I haven't worn

>gloves at all.

>

>

>

>I'm 49 years old, still (!) perimenopausal with regular, scanty periods

>that are starting to come at longer intervals (31-34 days). In general, I

>have a spleen qi deficiency damp constitution with stagnant liver qi and

>also blood deficiency and stagnation (varicose veins). Kidney and lung

>qi, and kidney and stomach yin are a little deficient. All my life I had

>been cold, until the last couple of years. In western medical terms, I

>have a history of airborn and food allergies, asthma (in cold air), eczema

>(in hot and extremely humid weather), frequent strep throats as a teenager

>(with lots of antibiotics), mononucleosis in my twenties which knocked me

>on my butt for many years with fatigue and lowered immunity, and

>fibromyalgia since 1978. GERD and irritable bowel syndrome have been

>resolved for over 10 years.

>

>

>

>Pulse has always been rapid. Used to be 104 beats/minute until using TCM,

>now is about 90-94, with extremely low blood pressure all my life

>(80/50). Pulse is typically weak, medium depth, soft but sometimes

>slippery. Slightly thin and slightly wiry on the left side.

>

>

>

>Tongue is pale, slightly dusky, puffy, slightly scalloped with a few

>superficial transverse cracks in the center. Sides are bare of coat and

>pale, tip is slightly red. Coat is thin, white and slightly greasy.

>

>

>

>Hot, damp, and yet also dry. Any clues about diagnosis and treatments

>(internal and topical) would be greatly appreciated.

>

>

>

>Thank you,

>

>

>

>

>

> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

>

>

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Hi Marnae,

 

When the condition begins, there is no itch or pain, and no vesicles or fissures

ever appear. The skin is completely dry throughout all phases of the condition,

but not pathologically dry except for the occasional moments the denuded area

looks raw and pebbly - otherwise, my hands are not excessively moist or dry.

The only signal I have that it's about to start is that the skin will thicken

slightly 3-4 days before it starts to disappear, almost like a callus. I have

read about pomphylix eczema before, and it doesn't sound like what I have,

unless there are other forms.

 

I do occasionally get a vesicular form of eczema which is very itchy with

vesicles, in the cubital crease only. Mainly, I just put cold water on it when

it first appears and it goes away - for months at a time.

 

The formulae you sent are for internal use, yes? How may one contact Mazin for

info about his classes?

 

Thank you for your reply. Interesting that constitutional factors are often

treated as secondary factors with dermatology - as if skin diseases are regarded

as an external invasion of the skin.

 

Blessings,

Andrea Beth

 

Marnae Ergil <marnae wrote:

Andrea -

 

This sounds like a case of Pomphylix Eczema. When the condition begins are

the area itchy or painful? Are there any vesicles? Typically, Pomphylyx

Eczema begins with a vesicular stage which is very itchy. This is then

followed by a dry desquamating phase - at which time the itching is greatly

reduced.

 

The first attack is typically triggered by hot weather - many patients

(like yourself) only have eruptions during the summer. Very much

associated with excessive hand washing (a hazard of the job!). It must be

differentiated from

Fungus - since it is symmetrical and goes away with the change in

weather it is probably not fungal

Psoriasis - usually better in sunlight, not worse. Also, usually

affects greater areas of the body,.

 

The following information is all from Mazin Al-Khafaji. I have treated

this condition very successfully using these ideas. Hand care is

especially important.

 

When treating dermatology it is sometimes necessary to overlook other

presenting patterns in order to resolve the skin issues. Surprisingly,

other things will often resolve even though you don't expect them to.

 

Pompholyz Exczema at its root is generally a replete damp condition with a

tendency to fire-toxins

 

Initial stage (vesicular)

Dran damp heat, clear fire toxin, stop itch

 

Second stage

continue above, disperse wind, remove very bitter damp heat herbs.

 

Most common form:

LV/GB Damp Heat w/ fire toxin

 

Long Dan Cao 9

ZHi Zi 9

Bai Ji Li 12

Sheng Di 12

Lian Qiao 12

Mu Tong 9

Gan Cao 6

Huang Qin 9

Bai Xian Pi 12

Mu Dan Pi 9

Zi Hua Di Ding 12

Pu Gong Ying 12

Che Qian Zi 12

 

Many things one can do to personalize depending upon individual condition.

Once condition resolves, regular the liver

EXTERNAL TREATMENT: best if used w/ internal treatment

 

Steam and then soak affected area 2 times/day for 15 -20 mintes - ONLY

during acute phase

Wang Bu Liu Xing 30g / Ming Fan 10g

 

Also could be QI and Blood vacuity w/ fire toxin - fewer vesicles, mostly

just dry

Stubborn, fissured skin w/ few vesicles

Itch tends to be mild/moderate; low vitality

 

Sheng Di 15 - 25

Bai Ji Li 20

JinYin Hua 12

Ye Ju Hua 12

Dang Gui 9

He Shou Wu 12

Gan Cao 4

Mu Dan Pi 9

Chan Tui 9

Bai Hua She She Cao 15

Bai ZHu 12

Bai Shao 15

HUang Qi 15

 

HAND CARE

Wash hands as infrequently as possible. Avoid soap or use very sparingly

Dry hands VERY well with a clean towel or with Ming Fan.

Shampoo, lotions, etc. should all be applied whilewearing plastic gloves or

by somebody else

Avoid direct contact with household detergents, cleaners etc. Wear cotton

or plastic gloves when doing housework (or cotton under plastic)

Avoid exposing hands to know irritants (fresh fruits, vegetables, meat,

wool) Wear warm gloves in cold weather

Use plastic rather than rubeer gloves (rubber can aggravate the condition)

Wear cotton gloves under the plastic.

Change gloves frequently

COntinue to follow these instructions for 4 - 6 months after hands have

healed.

 

If you are interested in dermatology and ever have the opportunity to study

with Mazin it is an excellent class - the best CE I have ever taken.

 

Marnae

 

At 03:46 PM 9/9/2005, you wrote:

 

>Hi All,

>

>

>

>I have a peculiar and puzzling skin problem that I'd like help

>with. Every summer, after it's been hot and humid already for a few

>months, the skin on the palmar side of the distal phalanxes of my fingers

>disappears, as if it evaporates slowly over a few weeks. It doesn't peel,

>it doesn't flake, it just disappears. It starts in the center of the pad

>of one thumb, then on the other thumb a week or so later. The next

>fingers to do this are the middle fingers, and then finally the

>forefingers. The ring fingers and pinkies are never involved. As the

>skin exfoliates, the exposed area is tender, dry, very deep red at times,

>and quite sensitive - especially to heat. Sometimes the exposed areas

>resemble a geographic tongue without a coat, all pebbly-wrinkled and

>lacking substance. I should mention that the fingers in my hands swell on

>and off during the summer, making wearing my usual rings a little

>difficult at times.

>

>

>

>The skin will initially become dry and hardened, and then a naked

>(exfoliated) spot appears. It will grow outward in a more or less

>circular pattern, and eventually an irregular oval covers the entire pad

>of the phalanx. All along the circumference of the exposed skin it is

>often deeply and brightly red, and most tender. Often new skin will start

>to regrow where the exfoliation began, before the rest of the phalanx is

>denuded. Sometimes the phalanx will start to exfoliate all over again -

>either the newly regrown skin or a deeper layer beneath the first, which

>is particularly painful. This disappearing of skin can recur several

>times before it spontaneously discontinues. Sometimes it will completely

>heal over before it begins again a week or so later.

>

>

>

>This year, I moved to a new climate - high desert. Previously, I had

>lived all my life near the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, and I expected it

>to be less humid here in the summer than by the sea, but to my surprise it

>isn't. This skin problem started about 7 years ago when I relocated to

>San Diego after living many years in northern California. Every year, it

>would show up in July and subside around September or October. I thought

>the new climate was going to enable me to escape it this year, but it just

>showed up later than usual - a couple of weeks ago.

>

>

>

>Clearly, there is an element of dampness (hands swelling and worse in

>humidity), a component of heat (deep redness and worse in summer), and

>also, puzzlingly, an aspect of dryness (better with moisturizer at

>night). If I don't put moisturizer on my hands before I go to sleep, I

>will wake up in the middle of the night with my hands feeling hot, dry,

>swollen, tight, and painful - not just the areas of the skin problem, but

>the entire hands, fingers in particular. Often I will need to put on more

>moisturizer in the middle of the night, but I never need it during the

>day. Usually I don't like using the feel of moisturizers on my

>skin. Oily herbal preparations make the exposed skin even more dark red

>and tender. Could this be a manifestation of yin deficiency heat - heat

>in the five centers (hands, particularly), aggravated by hot weather? I

>don't have heat symptoms like this anywhere else, though I am much more

>frequently uncomfortably warm since moving here, especially in early

> evening, which is oddly also our hottest time of day.

>

>

>

>Also, while the skin on the palm side of my fingers is disappearing, I

>have a few patches of " excess skin " on the back side of my hands -

>psoriasis; this is present all year and sometimes itches.

>

>

>

>I don't use any different skin products during the summer than I use the

>rest of the year, so it's not an issue of seasonal exposure to

>something. If anything, I use fewer products during the summer. In

>particular, the dish soap I use year-round irritates it the most but only

>while the skin condition is present, and sometimes I will wear gloves when

>washing dishes in the summer to prevent this, but this year I haven't worn

>gloves at all.

>

>

>

>I'm 49 years old, still (!) perimenopausal with regular, scanty periods

>that are starting to come at longer intervals (31-34 days). In general, I

>have a spleen qi deficiency damp constitution with stagnant liver qi and

>also blood deficiency and stagnation (varicose veins). Kidney and lung

>qi, and kidney and stomach yin are a little deficient. All my life I had

>been cold, until the last couple of years. In western medical terms, I

>have a history of airborn and food allergies, asthma (in cold air), eczema

>(in hot and extremely humid weather), frequent strep throats as a teenager

>(with lots of antibiotics), mononucleosis in my twenties which knocked me

>on my butt for many years with fatigue and lowered immunity, and

>fibromyalgia since 1978. GERD and irritable bowel syndrome have been

>resolved for over 10 years.

>

>

>

>Pulse has always been rapid. Used to be 104 beats/minute until using TCM,

>now is about 90-94, with extremely low blood pressure all my life

>(80/50). Pulse is typically weak, medium depth, soft but sometimes

>slippery. Slightly thin and slightly wiry on the left side.

>

>

>

>Tongue is pale, slightly dusky, puffy, slightly scalloped with a few

>superficial transverse cracks in the center. Sides are bare of coat and

>pale, tip is slightly red. Coat is thin, white and slightly greasy.

>

>

>

>Hot, damp, and yet also dry. Any clues about diagnosis and treatments

>(internal and topical) would be greatly appreciated.

>

>

>

>Thank you,

>

>

>

>

>

> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

>

>

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Thank you again, Marnae. I used to get an itchy, vesicular rash on my toes that

sounds like what you are describing here, but no longer. That one wouldn't

exfoliate - it would get itchy, red, quite swollen, and painful, and last for

months on end. That condition didn't follow me into the desert, fortunately.

 

Andrea Beth

 

Marnae Ergil <marnae wrote:

Andrea Beth

 

In addition, this can (rarely) manifest as a Spleen Damp HEat with Fire

Toxin pattern, but it more commonly involves the feet, or is accomanied by

diarrhea / foul stools, poor appetite, bloating, fullness

T: pale w/ white/yellow fur

 

Cang ZHu 9

Huang Lian 9

Fu Ling 12

Bai Xian Pi 12

Bai Jiang Cao 12

Lian Qiao 12

Gan Cao 4

Bi Xie 12

Huang Lian 6

Che Qian ZI 12

Di Fu Zi 12

ZIHua Di Ding 15

Sha Ren 6

 

Marnae

 

At 03:46 PM 9/9/2005, you wrote:

 

>Hi All,

>

>

>

>I have a peculiar and puzzling skin problem that I'd like help

>with. Every summer, after it's been hot and humid already for a few

>months, the skin on the palmar side of the distal phalanxes of my fingers

>disappears, as if it evaporates slowly over a few weeks. It doesn't peel,

>it doesn't flake, it just disappears. It starts in the center of the pad

>of one thumb, then on the other thumb a week or so later. The next

>fingers to do this are the middle fingers, and then finally the

>forefingers. The ring fingers and pinkies are never involved. As the

>skin exfoliates, the exposed area is tender, dry, very deep red at times,

>and quite sensitive - especially to heat. Sometimes the exposed areas

>resemble a geographic tongue without a coat, all pebbly-wrinkled and

>lacking substance. I should mention that the fingers in my hands swell on

>and off during the summer, making wearing my usual rings a little

>difficult at times.

>

>

>

>The skin will initially become dry and hardened, and then a naked

>(exfoliated) spot appears. It will grow outward in a more or less

>circular pattern, and eventually an irregular oval covers the entire pad

>of the phalanx. All along the circumference of the exposed skin it is

>often deeply and brightly red, and most tender. Often new skin will start

>to regrow where the exfoliation began, before the rest of the phalanx is

>denuded. Sometimes the phalanx will start to exfoliate all over again -

>either the newly regrown skin or a deeper layer beneath the first, which

>is particularly painful. This disappearing of skin can recur several

>times before it spontaneously discontinues. Sometimes it will completely

>heal over before it begins again a week or so later.

>

>

>

>This year, I moved to a new climate - high desert. Previously, I had

>lived all my life near the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, and I expected it

>to be less humid here in the summer than by the sea, but to my surprise it

>isn't. This skin problem started about 7 years ago when I relocated to

>San Diego after living many years in northern California. Every year, it

>would show up in July and subside around September or October. I thought

>the new climate was going to enable me to escape it this year, but it just

>showed up later than usual - a couple of weeks ago.

>

>

>

>Clearly, there is an element of dampness (hands swelling and worse in

>humidity), a component of heat (deep redness and worse in summer), and

>also, puzzlingly, an aspect of dryness (better with moisturizer at

>night). If I don't put moisturizer on my hands before I go to sleep, I

>will wake up in the middle of the night with my hands feeling hot, dry,

>swollen, tight, and painful - not just the areas of the skin problem, but

>the entire hands, fingers in particular. Often I will need to put on more

>moisturizer in the middle of the night, but I never need it during the

>day. Usually I don't like using the feel of moisturizers on my

>skin. Oily herbal preparations make the exposed skin even more dark red

>and tender. Could this be a manifestation of yin deficiency heat - heat

>in the five centers (hands, particularly), aggravated by hot weather? I

>don't have heat symptoms like this anywhere else, though I am much more

>frequently uncomfortably warm since moving here, especially in early

> evening, which is oddly also our hottest time of day.

>

>

>

>Also, while the skin on the palm side of my fingers is disappearing, I

>have a few patches of " excess skin " on the back side of my hands -

>psoriasis; this is present all year and sometimes itches.

>

>

>

>I don't use any different skin products during the summer than I use the

>rest of the year, so it's not an issue of seasonal exposure to

>something. If anything, I use fewer products during the summer. In

>particular, the dish soap I use year-round irritates it the most but only

>while the skin condition is present, and sometimes I will wear gloves when

>washing dishes in the summer to prevent this, but this year I haven't worn

>gloves at all.

>

>

>

>I'm 49 years old, still (!) perimenopausal with regular, scanty periods

>that are starting to come at longer intervals (31-34 days). In general, I

>have a spleen qi deficiency damp constitution with stagnant liver qi and

>also blood deficiency and stagnation (varicose veins). Kidney and lung

>qi, and kidney and stomach yin are a little deficient. All my life I had

>been cold, until the last couple of years. In western medical terms, I

>have a history of airborn and food allergies, asthma (in cold air), eczema

>(in hot and extremely humid weather), frequent strep throats as a teenager

>(with lots of antibiotics), mononucleosis in my twenties which knocked me

>on my butt for many years with fatigue and lowered immunity, and

>fibromyalgia since 1978. GERD and irritable bowel syndrome have been

>resolved for over 10 years.

>

>

>

>Pulse has always been rapid. Used to be 104 beats/minute until using TCM,

>now is about 90-94, with extremely low blood pressure all my life

>(80/50). Pulse is typically weak, medium depth, soft but sometimes

>slippery. Slightly thin and slightly wiry on the left side.

>

>

>

>Tongue is pale, slightly dusky, puffy, slightly scalloped with a few

>superficial transverse cracks in the center. Sides are bare of coat and

>pale, tip is slightly red. Coat is thin, white and slightly greasy.

>

>

>

>Hot, damp, and yet also dry. Any clues about diagnosis and treatments

>(internal and topical) would be greatly appreciated.

>

>

>

>Thank you,

>

>

>

>

>

> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

>

>

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Andrea Beth -

 

Check out his website at http://www.mazin-online.co.uk

 

He has done courses in NY (sponsored by Soho Herbs & Acupuncture) and also

in Canada. Don't know when he plans to come to North America again.

 

You can also look at his clinic site at www.cccm.co.uk

 

Good luck.

 

Marnae

 

 

>Hi Marnae,

>

>When the condition begins, there is no itch or pain, and no vesicles or

>fissures ever appear. The skin is completely dry throughout all phases of

>the condition, but not pathologically dry except for the occasional

>moments the denuded area looks raw and pebbly - otherwise, my hands are

>not excessively moist or dry. The only signal I have that it's about to

>start is that the skin will thicken slightly 3-4 days before it starts to

>disappear, almost like a callus. I have read about pomphylix eczema

>before, and it doesn't sound like what I have, unless there are other forms.

>

>I do occasionally get a vesicular form of eczema which is very itchy with

>vesicles, in the cubital crease only. Mainly, I just put cold water on it

>when it first appears and it goes away - for months at a time.

>

>The formulae you sent are for internal use, yes? How may one contact

>Mazin for info about his classes?

>

>Thank you for your reply. Interesting that constitutional factors are

>often treated as secondary factors with dermatology - as if skin diseases

>are regarded as an external invasion of the skin.

>

>Blessings,

>Andrea Beth

>

>Marnae Ergil <marnae wrote:

>Andrea -

>

>This sounds like a case of Pomphylix Eczema. When the condition begins are

>the area itchy or painful? Are there any vesicles? Typically, Pomphylyx

>Eczema begins with a vesicular stage which is very itchy. This is then

>followed by a dry desquamating phase - at which time the itching is greatly

>reduced.

>

>The first attack is typically triggered by hot weather - many patients

>(like yourself) only have eruptions during the summer. Very much

>associated with excessive hand washing (a hazard of the job!). It must be

>differentiated from

> Fungus - since it is symmetrical and goes away with the change in

>weather it is probably not fungal

> Psoriasis - usually better in sunlight, not worse. Also, usually

>affects greater areas of the body,.

>

>The following information is all from Mazin Al-Khafaji. I have treated

>this condition very successfully using these ideas. Hand care is

>especially important.

>

>When treating dermatology it is sometimes necessary to overlook other

>presenting patterns in order to resolve the skin issues. Surprisingly,

>other things will often resolve even though you don't expect them to.

>

>Pompholyz Exczema at its root is generally a replete damp condition with a

>tendency to fire-toxins

>

>Initial stage (vesicular)

> Dran damp heat, clear fire toxin, stop itch

>

>Second stage

> continue above, disperse wind, remove very bitter damp heat herbs.

>

>Most common form:

>LV/GB Damp Heat w/ fire toxin

>

>Long Dan Cao 9

>ZHi Zi 9

>Bai Ji Li 12

>Sheng Di 12

>Lian Qiao 12

>Mu Tong 9

>Gan Cao 6

>Huang Qin 9

>Bai Xian Pi 12

>Mu Dan Pi 9

>Zi Hua Di Ding 12

>Pu Gong Ying 12

>Che Qian Zi 12

>

>Many things one can do to personalize depending upon individual condition.

>Once condition resolves, regular the liver

>EXTERNAL TREATMENT: best if used w/ internal treatment

>

>Steam and then soak affected area 2 times/day for 15 -20 mintes - ONLY

>during acute phase

>Wang Bu Liu Xing 30g / Ming Fan 10g

>

>Also could be QI and Blood vacuity w/ fire toxin - fewer vesicles, mostly

>just dry

>Stubborn, fissured skin w/ few vesicles

>Itch tends to be mild/moderate; low vitality

>

>Sheng Di 15 - 25

>Bai Ji Li 20

>JinYin Hua 12

>Ye Ju Hua 12

>Dang Gui 9

>He Shou Wu 12

>Gan Cao 4

>Mu Dan Pi 9

>Chan Tui 9

>Bai Hua She She Cao 15

>Bai ZHu 12

>Bai Shao 15

>HUang Qi 15

>

>HAND CARE

>Wash hands as infrequently as possible. Avoid soap or use very sparingly

>Dry hands VERY well with a clean towel or with Ming Fan.

>Shampoo, lotions, etc. should all be applied whilewearing plastic gloves or

>by somebody else

>Avoid direct contact with household detergents, cleaners etc. Wear cotton

>or plastic gloves when doing housework (or cotton under plastic)

>Avoid exposing hands to know irritants (fresh fruits, vegetables, meat,

>wool) Wear warm gloves in cold weather

>Use plastic rather than rubeer gloves (rubber can aggravate the condition)

>Wear cotton gloves under the plastic.

>Change gloves frequently

>COntinue to follow these instructions for 4 - 6 months after hands have

>healed.

>

>If you are interested in dermatology and ever have the opportunity to study

>with Mazin it is an excellent class - the best CE I have ever taken.

>

>Marnae

>

>At 03:46 PM 9/9/2005, you wrote:

>

> >Hi All,

> >

> >

> >

> >I have a peculiar and puzzling skin problem that I'd like help

> >with. Every summer, after it's been hot and humid already for a few

> >months, the skin on the palmar side of the distal phalanxes of my fingers

> >disappears, as if it evaporates slowly over a few weeks. It doesn't peel,

> >it doesn't flake, it just disappears. It starts in the center of the pad

> >of one thumb, then on the other thumb a week or so later. The next

> >fingers to do this are the middle fingers, and then finally the

> >forefingers. The ring fingers and pinkies are never involved. As the

> >skin exfoliates, the exposed area is tender, dry, very deep red at times,

> >and quite sensitive - especially to heat. Sometimes the exposed areas

> >resemble a geographic tongue without a coat, all pebbly-wrinkled and

> >lacking substance. I should mention that the fingers in my hands swell on

> >and off during the summer, making wearing my usual rings a little

> >difficult at times.

> >

> >

> >

> >The skin will initially become dry and hardened, and then a naked

> >(exfoliated) spot appears. It will grow outward in a more or less

> >circular pattern, and eventually an irregular oval covers the entire pad

> >of the phalanx. All along the circumference of the exposed skin it is

> >often deeply and brightly red, and most tender. Often new skin will start

> >to regrow where the exfoliation began, before the rest of the phalanx is

> >denuded. Sometimes the phalanx will start to exfoliate all over again -

> >either the newly regrown skin or a deeper layer beneath the first, which

> >is particularly painful. This disappearing of skin can recur several

> >times before it spontaneously discontinues. Sometimes it will completely

> >heal over before it begins again a week or so later.

> >

> >

> >

> >This year, I moved to a new climate - high desert. Previously, I had

> >lived all my life near the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, and I expected it

> >to be less humid here in the summer than by the sea, but to my surprise it

> >isn't. This skin problem started about 7 years ago when I relocated to

> >San Diego after living many years in northern California. Every year, it

> >would show up in July and subside around September or October. I thought

> >the new climate was going to enable me to escape it this year, but it just

> >showed up later than usual - a couple of weeks ago.

> >

> >

> >

> >Clearly, there is an element of dampness (hands swelling and worse in

> >humidity), a component of heat (deep redness and worse in summer), and

> >also, puzzlingly, an aspect of dryness (better with moisturizer at

> >night). If I don't put moisturizer on my hands before I go to sleep, I

> >will wake up in the middle of the night with my hands feeling hot, dry,

> >swollen, tight, and painful - not just the areas of the skin problem, but

> >the entire hands, fingers in particular. Often I will need to put on more

> >moisturizer in the middle of the night, but I never need it during the

> >day. Usually I don't like using the feel of moisturizers on my

> >skin. Oily herbal preparations make the exposed skin even more dark red

> >and tender. Could this be a manifestation of yin deficiency heat - heat

> >in the five centers (hands, particularly), aggravated by hot weather? I

> >don't have heat symptoms like this anywhere else, though I am much more

> >frequently uncomfortably warm since moving here, especially in early

> > evening, which is oddly also our hottest time of day.

> >

> >

> >

> >Also, while the skin on the palm side of my fingers is disappearing, I

> >have a few patches of " excess skin " on the back side of my hands -

> >psoriasis; this is present all year and sometimes itches.

> >

> >

> >

> >I don't use any different skin products during the summer than I use the

> >rest of the year, so it's not an issue of seasonal exposure to

> >something. If anything, I use fewer products during the summer. In

> >particular, the dish soap I use year-round irritates it the most but only

> >while the skin condition is present, and sometimes I will wear gloves when

> >washing dishes in the summer to prevent this, but this year I haven't worn

> >gloves at all.

> >

> >

> >

> >I'm 49 years old, still (!) perimenopausal with regular, scanty periods

> >that are starting to come at longer intervals (31-34 days). In general, I

> >have a spleen qi deficiency damp constitution with stagnant liver qi and

> >also blood deficiency and stagnation (varicose veins). Kidney and lung

> >qi, and kidney and stomach yin are a little deficient. All my life I had

> >been cold, until the last couple of years. In western medical terms, I

> >have a history of airborn and food allergies, asthma (in cold air), eczema

> >(in hot and extremely humid weather), frequent strep throats as a teenager

> >(with lots of antibiotics), mononucleosis in my twenties which knocked me

> >on my butt for many years with fatigue and lowered immunity, and

> >fibromyalgia since 1978. GERD and irritable bowel syndrome have been

> >resolved for over 10 years.

> >

> >

> >

> >Pulse has always been rapid. Used to be 104 beats/minute until using TCM,

> >now is about 90-94, with extremely low blood pressure all my life

> >(80/50). Pulse is typically weak, medium depth, soft but sometimes

> >slippery. Slightly thin and slightly wiry on the left side.

> >

> >

> >

> >Tongue is pale, slightly dusky, puffy, slightly scalloped with a few

> >superficial transverse cracks in the center. Sides are bare of coat and

> >pale, tip is slightly red. Coat is thin, white and slightly greasy.

> >

> >

> >

> >Hot, damp, and yet also dry. Any clues about diagnosis and treatments

> >(internal and topical) would be greatly appreciated.

> >

> >

> >

> >Thank you,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

> >

> >

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> Hi All,

>

>

>

> I have a peculiar and puzzling skin problem that I'd like help with.

 

Hi Beth!

 

Before you go gonzo on a TCM differentiation run over to Wal-Mart and

pick up a tube of " Equate Athlete's Foot Cream " (tolnaftate 1%). This is

less than $5.

 

Sounds to me that this is a fungus infection. If it is this cream will

cure it almost immediately, although temporarily. If not, you will have

ruled out skin fungus. If it is fungus you will need to use this stuff

periodically through the season, as needed.

 

Regards,

 

Pete

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Thank you, Marnae.

 

Andrea Beth

 

Marnae Ergil <marnae wrote:

Andrea Beth -

 

Check out his website at http://www.mazin-online.co.uk

 

He has done courses in NY (sponsored by Soho Herbs & Acupuncture) and also

in Canada. Don't know when he plans to come to North America again.

 

You can also look at his clinic site at www.cccm.co.uk

 

Good luck.

 

Marnae

 

 

>Hi Marnae,

>

>When the condition begins, there is no itch or pain, and no vesicles or

>fissures ever appear. The skin is completely dry throughout all phases of

>the condition, but not pathologically dry except for the occasional

>moments the denuded area looks raw and pebbly - otherwise, my hands are

>not excessively moist or dry. The only signal I have that it's about to

>start is that the skin will thicken slightly 3-4 days before it starts to

>disappear, almost like a callus. I have read about pomphylix eczema

>before, and it doesn't sound like what I have, unless there are other forms.

>

>I do occasionally get a vesicular form of eczema which is very itchy with

>vesicles, in the cubital crease only. Mainly, I just put cold water on it

>when it first appears and it goes away - for months at a time.

>

>The formulae you sent are for internal use, yes? How may one contact

>Mazin for info about his classes?

>

>Thank you for your reply. Interesting that constitutional factors are

>often treated as secondary factors with dermatology - as if skin diseases

>are regarded as an external invasion of the skin.

>

>Blessings,

>Andrea Beth

>

>Marnae Ergil <marnae wrote:

>Andrea -

>

>This sounds like a case of Pomphylix Eczema. When the condition begins are

>the area itchy or painful? Are there any vesicles? Typically, Pomphylyx

>Eczema begins with a vesicular stage which is very itchy. This is then

>followed by a dry desquamating phase - at which time the itching is greatly

>reduced.

>

>The first attack is typically triggered by hot weather - many patients

>(like yourself) only have eruptions during the summer. Very much

>associated with excessive hand washing (a hazard of the job!). It must be

>differentiated from

> Fungus - since it is symmetrical and goes away with the change in

>weather it is probably not fungal

> Psoriasis - usually better in sunlight, not worse. Also, usually

>affects greater areas of the body,.

>

>The following information is all from Mazin Al-Khafaji. I have treated

>this condition very successfully using these ideas. Hand care is

>especially important.

>

>When treating dermatology it is sometimes necessary to overlook other

>presenting patterns in order to resolve the skin issues. Surprisingly,

>other things will often resolve even though you don't expect them to.

>

>Pompholyz Exczema at its root is generally a replete damp condition with a

>tendency to fire-toxins

>

>Initial stage (vesicular)

> Dran damp heat, clear fire toxin, stop itch

>

>Second stage

> continue above, disperse wind, remove very bitter damp heat herbs.

>

>Most common form:

>LV/GB Damp Heat w/ fire toxin

>

>Long Dan Cao 9

>ZHi Zi 9

>Bai Ji Li 12

>Sheng Di 12

>Lian Qiao 12

>Mu Tong 9

>Gan Cao 6

>Huang Qin 9

>Bai Xian Pi 12

>Mu Dan Pi 9

>Zi Hua Di Ding 12

>Pu Gong Ying 12

>Che Qian Zi 12

>

>Many things one can do to personalize depending upon individual condition.

>Once condition resolves, regular the liver

>EXTERNAL TREATMENT: best if used w/ internal treatment

>

>Steam and then soak affected area 2 times/day for 15 -20 mintes - ONLY

>during acute phase

>Wang Bu Liu Xing 30g / Ming Fan 10g

>

>Also could be QI and Blood vacuity w/ fire toxin - fewer vesicles, mostly

>just dry

>Stubborn, fissured skin w/ few vesicles

>Itch tends to be mild/moderate; low vitality

>

>Sheng Di 15 - 25

>Bai Ji Li 20

>JinYin Hua 12

>Ye Ju Hua 12

>Dang Gui 9

>He Shou Wu 12

>Gan Cao 4

>Mu Dan Pi 9

>Chan Tui 9

>Bai Hua She She Cao 15

>Bai ZHu 12

>Bai Shao 15

>HUang Qi 15

>

>HAND CARE

>Wash hands as infrequently as possible. Avoid soap or use very sparingly

>Dry hands VERY well with a clean towel or with Ming Fan.

>Shampoo, lotions, etc. should all be applied whilewearing plastic gloves or

>by somebody else

>Avoid direct contact with household detergents, cleaners etc. Wear cotton

>or plastic gloves when doing housework (or cotton under plastic)

>Avoid exposing hands to know irritants (fresh fruits, vegetables, meat,

>wool) Wear warm gloves in cold weather

>Use plastic rather than rubeer gloves (rubber can aggravate the condition)

>Wear cotton gloves under the plastic.

>Change gloves frequently

>COntinue to follow these instructions for 4 - 6 months after hands have

>healed.

>

>If you are interested in dermatology and ever have the opportunity to study

>with Mazin it is an excellent class - the best CE I have ever taken.

>

>Marnae

>

>At 03:46 PM 9/9/2005, you wrote:

>

> >Hi All,

> >

> >

> >

> >I have a peculiar and puzzling skin problem that I'd like help

> >with. Every summer, after it's been hot and humid already for a few

> >months, the skin on the palmar side of the distal phalanxes of my fingers

> >disappears, as if it evaporates slowly over a few weeks. It doesn't peel,

> >it doesn't flake, it just disappears. It starts in the center of the pad

> >of one thumb, then on the other thumb a week or so later. The next

> >fingers to do this are the middle fingers, and then finally the

> >forefingers. The ring fingers and pinkies are never involved. As the

> >skin exfoliates, the exposed area is tender, dry, very deep red at times,

> >and quite sensitive - especially to heat. Sometimes the exposed areas

> >resemble a geographic tongue without a coat, all pebbly-wrinkled and

> >lacking substance. I should mention that the fingers in my hands swell on

> >and off during the summer, making wearing my usual rings a little

> >difficult at times.

> >

> >

> >

> >The skin will initially become dry and hardened, and then a naked

> >(exfoliated) spot appears. It will grow outward in a more or less

> >circular pattern, and eventually an irregular oval covers the entire pad

> >of the phalanx. All along the circumference of the exposed skin it is

> >often deeply and brightly red, and most tender. Often new skin will start

> >to regrow where the exfoliation began, before the rest of the phalanx is

> >denuded. Sometimes the phalanx will start to exfoliate all over again -

> >either the newly regrown skin or a deeper layer beneath the first, which

> >is particularly painful. This disappearing of skin can recur several

> >times before it spontaneously discontinues. Sometimes it will completely

> >heal over before it begins again a week or so later.

> >

> >

> >

> >This year, I moved to a new climate - high desert. Previously, I had

> >lived all my life near the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, and I expected it

> >to be less humid here in the summer than by the sea, but to my surprise it

> >isn't. This skin problem started about 7 years ago when I relocated to

> >San Diego after living many years in northern California. Every year, it

> >would show up in July and subside around September or October. I thought

> >the new climate was going to enable me to escape it this year, but it just

> >showed up later than usual - a couple of weeks ago.

> >

> >

> >

> >Clearly, there is an element of dampness (hands swelling and worse in

> >humidity), a component of heat (deep redness and worse in summer), and

> >also, puzzlingly, an aspect of dryness (better with moisturizer at

> >night). If I don't put moisturizer on my hands before I go to sleep, I

> >will wake up in the middle of the night with my hands feeling hot, dry,

> >swollen, tight, and painful - not just the areas of the skin problem, but

> >the entire hands, fingers in particular. Often I will need to put on more

> >moisturizer in the middle of the night, but I never need it during the

> >day. Usually I don't like using the feel of moisturizers on my

> >skin. Oily herbal preparations make the exposed skin even more dark red

> >and tender. Could this be a manifestation of yin deficiency heat - heat

> >in the five centers (hands, particularly), aggravated by hot weather? I

> >don't have heat symptoms like this anywhere else, though I am much more

> >frequently uncomfortably warm since moving here, especially in early

> > evening, which is oddly also our hottest time of day.

> >

> >

> >

> >Also, while the skin on the palm side of my fingers is disappearing, I

> >have a few patches of " excess skin " on the back side of my hands -

> >psoriasis; this is present all year and sometimes itches.

> >

> >

> >

> >I don't use any different skin products during the summer than I use the

> >rest of the year, so it's not an issue of seasonal exposure to

> >something. If anything, I use fewer products during the summer. In

> >particular, the dish soap I use year-round irritates it the most but only

> >while the skin condition is present, and sometimes I will wear gloves when

> >washing dishes in the summer to prevent this, but this year I haven't worn

> >gloves at all.

> >

> >

> >

> >I'm 49 years old, still (!) perimenopausal with regular, scanty periods

> >that are starting to come at longer intervals (31-34 days). In general, I

> >have a spleen qi deficiency damp constitution with stagnant liver qi and

> >also blood deficiency and stagnation (varicose veins). Kidney and lung

> >qi, and kidney and stomach yin are a little deficient. All my life I had

> >been cold, until the last couple of years. In western medical terms, I

> >have a history of airborn and food allergies, asthma (in cold air), eczema

> >(in hot and extremely humid weather), frequent strep throats as a teenager

> >(with lots of antibiotics), mononucleosis in my twenties which knocked me

> >on my butt for many years with fatigue and lowered immunity, and

> >fibromyalgia since 1978. GERD and irritable bowel syndrome have been

> >resolved for over 10 years.

> >

> >

> >

> >Pulse has always been rapid. Used to be 104 beats/minute until using TCM,

> >now is about 90-94, with extremely low blood pressure all my life

> >(80/50). Pulse is typically weak, medium depth, soft but sometimes

> >slippery. Slightly thin and slightly wiry on the left side.

> >

> >

> >

> >Tongue is pale, slightly dusky, puffy, slightly scalloped with a few

> >superficial transverse cracks in the center. Sides are bare of coat and

> >pale, tip is slightly red. Coat is thin, white and slightly greasy.

> >

> >

> >

> >Hot, damp, and yet also dry. Any clues about diagnosis and treatments

> >(internal and topical) would be greatly appreciated.

> >

> >

> >

> >Thank you,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

> >

> >

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> Hey Pete,

>

> If it's fungus, why does it always appear bilaterally, on the same

> joints of the same fingers only, each time it appears? It never

> spreads to any new areas.

>

 

Hi Andrea!

 

Hits the weakest spots in the immune system. You become more susceptible

as you age, I'm afraid.

 

Obviously, I'm guessing not having seen you. It may not be fungus, but

it only costs $5 to find out.

 

Regards,

 

Pete

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Beth !

DAKTARIN Cream 15g or

 

DEXTMICO 2C3 Miconazol Nitrate 2%

cream 30g, (tube)

 

Regards H.Peter

 

CENTRO DE MEDICINA ORIENTAL

Acupunctura-Shiatsu-Adipolise-TCM

Dr.H.Peter Nussbaumer

351-269827272,+351-967044284

medoriental

 

Hi Dr. H.,

 

What is this, and where do I get it?

 

Andrea Beth

 

" Dr.H.Peter Nussbaumer " <medoriental wrote:

Hi Beth !

You can try nitrato de miconazol !

Regards

H.Peter

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thanks, Peter. If it's not a fungal problem, will using these worsen the

condition?

 

Andrea Beth

 

" Dr.H.Peter Nussbaumer " <medoriental wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Beth !

DAKTARIN Cream 15g or

 

DEXTMICO 2C3 Miconazol Nitrate 2%

cream 30g, (tube)

 

Regards H.Peter

 

CENTRO DE MEDICINA ORIENTAL

Acupunctura-Shiatsu-Adipolise-TCM

Dr.H.Peter Nussbaumer

351-269827272,+351-967044284

medoriental

 

Hi Dr. H.,

 

What is this, and where do I get it?

 

Andrea Beth

 

" Dr.H.Peter Nussbaumer " <medoriental wrote:

Hi Beth !

You can try nitrato de miconazol !

Regards

H.Peter

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Try the following formulas:

 

1) Bai Hu Tang 30, Zhi Bai Di Huang Wan 30, Long Dan Xie Gan Tang 30,

Mo Yao 5, Ru Xiang 5

 

or

 

2) From Evergreen: Herbal ABX 30, Herbal DTX 30, Dermatrol 30

 

 

Mark

 

 

> Pulse has always been rapid. Used to be 104 beats/minute until

using TCM, now is about 90-94, with extremely low blood pressure all

my life (80/50). Pulse is typically weak, medium depth, soft but

sometimes slippery. Slightly thin and slightly wiry on the left side.

>

> Tongue is pale, slightly dusky, puffy, slightly scalloped with a few

superficial transverse cracks in the center. Sides are bare of coat

and pale, tip is slightly red. Coat is thin, white and slightly

greasy.

>

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What kind of skin problem?

 

I happen to be a Chinese Herblist and a Board Certified Dermatopathologist.

 

YM Li

 

<alonmarcus wrote:

Marnae

Can you give me your info i have someone with skin prob in NY that needs a

referral

thanks

 

 

 

 

Oakland, CA 94609

 

 

 

 

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I have a website at www.herbacupuncture.com

 

YM Li

 

Yong Li <tcmaa2004 wrote:

 

What kind of skin problem?

 

I happen to be a Chinese Herblist and a Board Certified Dermatopathologist.

 

YM Li

 

<alonmarcus wrote:

Marnae

Can you give me your info i have someone with skin prob in NY that needs a

referral

thanks

 

 

 

 

Oakland, CA 94609

 

 

 

 

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Hello all,

 

I have a peculiar skin irritation which I have been

suffering from the past 2-3 years. No one has been to

able to give a correct solution for the problem.

 

Face, neck and hands specifically that portin those

exposed to sunlight/air gets irritated when exposed to

sunlight/air. It starts itching, skin becomes red,skin

gets cut, then lymph juice comes out. Lot of changes

keeps happenning to the skin. This is only in a

specific area of the skin, not everywhere.

 

Some doctors(allopathic) tell that as allergy

due to sun light, it wasn't there earlier now it has

come. They say it is like that for some period of

time. After that it goes off.

 

So I am really worried about it. Some doctors told it

is dermatitis. They give some ointments, after I stop

applying the ointments, it starts erupting again. In

the same region of the skin. Particularly

on the face. There are some spots in the neck region

and hand too. Someone told me it is ringworm problem.

I was told to apply aloevera which didn't work again.

 

In general there is itching on the hands and around

the neck. But that is not long lasting. It itches for

sometime and then it goes off. Whenever

it itches, skin peels off and lymph juice starts

coming out.

 

I have been taking ayurvedic medicines also. I am

taking Maha Manjistadi Kashayam from around 3-4

months. But I don't see any change w.r.t this.

 

External application which I have tried includes,

 

1. Jivantyadiyamakam

2. Safrozan

3. Pure Ghee

4. Aloevera/Aloegel

 

Nothing works. Infact it agrevates. So I have stopped

applying anything at all.

 

Can anyone suggest what could be the problem, what I

can do about it. Any help in this regard is highly

appreciated.

 

Thanks and Regards,

Pushpa

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pushpaji,

without seen a skin lesion,i cant proper diagnose the

disease. but i can advise some simple medicine.

with duration of treatment do not take milk product and sour taste

food.

 

1.triphla churna 4 gm bd

2.sanshmani vatee 3 tab bd

3.khadir churna+ yastimadhu churna for external eplication-15 minutes

 

regards

dr piyush shah

www.drpiyushshah.blogspot.com

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> I have a peculiar skin irritation which I have been

> suffering from the past 2-3 years. No one has been to

> able to give a correct solution for the problem.

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have you tried to apply turmeric - haldi with besan in paste form?

This has helped most skin problems for me.

It is worth a try, just try it on one area to be sure of the effect.

________

I have a peculiar skin irritation which I have been

suffering from the past 2-3 years. No one has been to

able to give a correct solution for the problem..........

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My own experience about skin problems is that if one

ate about five helpings of seasonal fruits and

vegetables, raw or semi cooked with minimum of added

ingredients, and drank enough water frequently, say a

minimum of about two litres per day of 24 hours and

also did pranayams especially Kapaalbhati and

Anulom-vilom for 15 minutes each morning and evening

on an empty stomach, most of skin problems can be

overcome.

Of course, this is in addition to the expert advice of

learned vaidyas on line.

 

S. M. Acharya <smacharya

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> > I have a peculiar skin irritation which I have

> been suffering from the past 2-3 years. No one has been to

> > able to give a correct solution for the problem.

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skin patients can take milk, and who teached such wrong idea I don't know.

Acid foods could be avoided. in case of fungal infections avoid non veg itoms.

Thats all.

R.Vidhyasagar.

__

without seen a skin lesion,i cant proper diagnose the

disease. but i can advise some simple medicine.

with duration of treatment do not take milk product and sour taste

food.

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hello all,

why milk product and sour taste food avoid in skin diseases ?

 

" shasta na gurv-amla-pyayo-dadhini-tila sch " .(DO NOT TAKE HEAVY

FOOD-SOUR FOOD-MILK-CURD- TIL ETC.)-reference-charak samhita:

nidansthan adhyay 5-kushtha nidan.maharshi charak advice some pathya-

apathya for skin diseases.we find better result by follow charak

samhita.

 

regards

dr piyush shah

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> skin patients can take milk, and who teached such wrong idea I

don't know.

> Acid foods could be avoided. in case of fungal infections avoid

non veg itoms. Thats all.

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Dear readers

Skin diseases are manifestations of systemic malfunction or disorder. Ayurveda

has advocated repeted Shodhana [ Vamana, Virechana etc.] therapy.

It is my personal view that shodhana and ingestion of Ayurvedic medicines should

be given for skin problems. Any local application should be avoided as far as

possible. Local application may give us fast result but that may mask the real

problem.

For Sun rays allergy I have given medicine for ingestion and avoided local

application and I got satisfactory results. If any body has interest for more

information should see case studies in my website.

 

Vaidya Upadhye

http://www.astrotreat.blogspot.com

http://www.astroayurvedalogy.com

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> > I have a peculiar skin irritation which I have

> been suffering from the past 2-3 years. No one has been to

> > able to give a correct solution for the problem.

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A lot of local applications are told in anciant

scripts. local application is a must in case of

blisters, oozing type of skin disease.

 

Marisadi thailam, avalgujathi lepam , kungumathi lepam

all are needed according to patients conditions.

 

Ajeya's view coincides with homeopathic principle

many skin disease requires both external and internal

medications.

 

R.Vidhyasagar.

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> For Sun rays allergy I have given medicine for

> ingestion and avoided local application and I got

> satisfactory results. .............

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I don't know all vaithiyas are preventing milk food

for skin patients strict food resatrictions are

difficult to follow by the patient.

There are differant systems of medicine,and differant

principled doctors.

R.Vidhyasagar.

_______

> " shasta na gurv-amla-pyayo-dadhini-tila sch " .(DO

> NOT TAKE HEAVY

> FOOD-SOUR FOOD-MILK-CURD- TIL ETC.)-reference-charak

> samhita:...........

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