Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 I need some ayurvedic treatment /advise. 4 years ago I had a stent placed in my heart artery. it was an elective surgery ( I had some tiredness etc and upon stress test they discovered that my artery was partially blocked. after a few months of medications I decided to eliminate drugs and decided on life style change ( some exercise and diet more heavy on fruits and vegetables). My cholesterols became stable as total about 175, LDL 113, HDL 42 and tryglesrides about 100. My doctor has been insisting that I take statins to reduce cholesterols. Six weeks ago I started taking the medicine on the lowest dose( 10mg) and my cholesterols have become what I consider to be too low, total 100 LDl 50 HDLl 38 . I feel tired and feel that I should stop taking the medicine. any advise or suggestions? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 In my experience as a nurse i have found the Statin drugs to be the most harmful group of medications available to man. If you were my relative I would beg you to stop taking them immediately. There is a heap of info to back me up - you only have to do a " Statin Side-effects " google search and you would never touch them again ..... sunshine and carrots help lower cholesterol and besides there is a heap of other natural dietary change you can do if your cholesterol is really high but I doubt that it is too bad at all - views of cholesterol levels change as the fashion scene - how do you feel - rather did you feel = before you started the statin drug? By the way you can stop immediately without further harming yourself. Best, Jane ______________________________ Six weeks ago I started taking the medicine on the lowest dose( 10mg) and my cholesterols have become what I consider to be too low, total 100 LDl 50 HDLl 38 . I feel tired and feel that I should stop taking the medicine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 ayurveda , PG <darshan261 wrote: > 4 years ago I had a stent placed in my heart artery. it was an elective surgery ( I had some tiredness etc and upon stress test they discovered that my artery was partially blocked. after a few months of medications I decided to eliminate drugs and decided on life style change ( some exercise and diet more heavy on fruits and vegetables). > My cholesterols became stable as total about 175, LDL 113, HDL 42 and tryglesrides about 100. These levels seem quite close to those of many 21 km marathon runners. Lifestyle changes seem to have helped you. > My doctor has been insisting that I take statins to reduce cholesterols. Six weeks ago I started taking the medicine on the lowest dose( 10mg) and my cholesterols have become what I consider to be too low, total 100 LDl 50 HDLl 38 . > I feel tired and feel that I should stop taking the medicine. > any advise or suggestions? Is this not an indicator that health is a personal experience and not some machine generated numbers. the reason for tiredness need not be again a blocked artery, it could be many others. Meet nearest ayurvedist. If you go to old model, the tiredness may lead to another stent. Or perhaps the conclusion that " you should not have eaten fruits and vegetables, they are wrong diet for heart patients " . while fatigue tiredness has been traced to triglicerides/toxins clogged liver/parasites/insulin resistance by this author in 99 cases out of hundred, each individual is unique. modern medication may slow down liver function, heart rate, ejection fraction, hundred other conditions occur as side effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 The Statin Scam Marches On The researchers tested statin-taking humans who were complaining of severe muscle pain. Muscle biopsy found that the atrogen-1 gene was activated, compared to people with severe muscle pain not on statins and controls. They went on to show through various experiments that statins activate the gene. This is extremely bad news for any person taking a statin....... http://www.newswithviews.com/Richards/byron44.htm by Byron Richards, CCN THis may be of interest to you Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 I feel the way you do. I live in USA near Washington DC and ayurvedic practitioners are not available.Fortunately ( or unfortunately) my son is a young doctor and he is also of the opinion that statins are great. I felt energetic before I started to take statins. I do not have significant muscle pains, just general lack of energy. I am 60 years old and some times the comments are made, well at your age tiredness is expected and that a stroke will be lot worst than tiredness. these kind of arguments from people who love you and have your best interest at heart are hard to argue against and overlook. at the same time I agree that health is not numbers and that my cholesterols before the statins ( 175 total, 113 LDL 42 HDL ) were not bad at all. If i had not had stent put in , these will be fine. all these well wishers which includes my wife who is an RN believe that getting LDL in the 80-100 range is the goal. It is with good intentions that they insist that I continue with the medicine and it makes it hard to say no to all of them. Mt wife now seems to feel that may be i should take this medicine every other day. any recommendations of who I can see near Washington DC or any suggestions with respect to diet ayurvedic treatment I thank you for your assistance and response. _____________________ Is this not an indicator that health is a personal experience and not some machine generated numbers. the reason for tiredness need not be again a blocked artery, it could be many others. Meet nearest ayurvedist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 ayurveda , PG <darshan261 wrote: > > I need some ayurvedic treatment /advise. > 4 years ago I had a stent placed in my heart artery. it was an elective surgery ( I had some tiredness etc and upon stress test they discovered that my artery was partially blocked. after a few months of medications I decided to eliminate drugs and decided on life style change ( some exercise and diet more heavy on fruits and vegetables). > My cholesterols became stable as total about 175, LDL 113, HDL 42 and tryglesrides about 100. > My doctor has been insisting that I take statins to reduce cholesterols. Six weeks ago I started taking the medicine on the lowest dose( 10mg) and my cholesterols have become what I consider to be too low, total 100 LDl 50 HDLl 38 . > > I feel tired and feel that I should stop taking the medicine. > any advise or suggestions? > thanks > statins deplete CoQ10 and i would put this on the top priority list for immediate supplementation: http://www.townsendletter.com/FebMar2006/coq100206.htm statins promote cardiomyopathy and muscle damage - it's a VERY dangerous drug that should be banned, but it is also the number 1 selling drug _in the world_ let me explain to everyone the very basic idea behind statins 1. an atheroma, or the arterial plaque of atherosclerosis, AKA " heart disease " , is mostly comprised of cholesterol 2. therefore we must stop the body from producing too much cholesterol did anyone notice a logical step missing here? like maybe WHY is there a cholesterol build-up? although much maligned, cholesterol is an amazing waxy substance that confers so many benefits to the human body that it is beyond comprehension how it could be viewed so poorly the primary function of cholesterol is to achieve stable plasma membranes, the slippery fatty shell that surrounds the contents of each cell having more cholesterol in the membrane achieves greater stability, greater resistance to inflammation, in contrast to the other much more " explosive " lipids found in the membrane like polyunsaturated fatty acids in areas of inflammation, cholesterol can be used to achieve stabilty, to displace the " exploding " fatty acids, and thus reduce the tissue damage and instability mediated through the products of this explosion, such as prostaglandins, leukotrienes, etc. in otherwords, in the atheroma, cholesterol is a stabilizing molecule, to help stabilize the inflammatory process: the chewing gum in the dam doctors treat the SYMPTOM of inflammation, i.e. cholesterol, the very same molecule that is actually trying to help you! they do this by using a statin, the holy grail of CVD, which functions to inhibit ALL cholesterol synthesis in the body (and not mention, the antioxidant CoQ10, which is synthesized in the same pathway) to make matters worse, they then put you on a low cholesterol diet, which never really makes a big impact on serum cholesterol anyway, since about 80% of all cholesterol in the blood is _synthesized_) and ALL this, despite the real evidence that having lower than normal cholesterol INCREASES the overall mortality of cardiovascular disease, and will make you feel _exactly_ the way you are feeling now check out the Honolulu Heart Study in the files section in some ways i think of cholesterol as a physical representation of ojas, as the binding- connecting-strengthening principle --- which also explains its role as a regulatory molecule, from which is manufactured vitamin D, progesterone, estrogen, testosterone, cortisol and mineral-corticoids also, i found this interesting study, which suggests that people with higher serum cholesterols have a much lower risk of severe stroke http://stroke.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/STROKEAHA.107.490292v1 best... Caldecott, Dip. Cl.H, RH(AHG) Ayurvedic practitioner, Medical Herbalist 203 - 1750 East 10th Ave Vancouver, BC V5N 5K4 CANADA web: http//:www.toddcaldecott.com email: todd tel: (1)778.896.8894 fax: (1)866.703.2792 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 ayurveda , PG <darshan261 wrote: I feel the way you do. I live in USA near Washington DC and ayurvedic practitioners are not available.Fortunately ( or unfortunately) my son is a young doctor and he is also of the opinion that statins are great. _____________________ Is this not an indicator that health is a personal experience and not some machine generated numbers. the reason for tiredness need not be again a blocked artery, it could be many others. Meet nearest ayurvedist. ============================================================== one place is tai sophia: http://www.tai.edu/ also, go to www.americanherbalistsguild.com todd caldecott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2007 Report Share Posted December 13, 2007 In New Jersey, Sanjay Jain MD is working on Cholesterol management on FDA guidelines. The product Omnicor is really worth trial. You can contact him at drsanjayjain or at 973-813-7256 Mukesh http://www.sanjivaniwellness.org Dr Mukesh D Jain MD Panch Karma & Yoga Division, Sanjivani Wellness Center Bhilai 490023 India Visit us at http://www.sanjivaniwellnessbhilai.org _____________________ I feel the way you do. I live in USA near Washington DC and ayurvedic practitioners are not available.Fortunately ( or unfortunately) my son is a young doctor and he is also of the opinion that statins are great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2007 Report Share Posted December 13, 2007 Why are you advertising or suggesting Allopathic medications on an Ayurvedic list? They do nothing but harm - they all have undesirable side-effects - if not in the short term then in the long term when it may well be too late to reverse such effects - this is not the way most people on this list wish to go ......... Jane _______________________ In New Jersey, Sanjay Jain MD is working on Cholesterol management on FDA guidelines. The product Omnicor is really worth trial. You can contact him at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2007 Report Share Posted December 13, 2007 I would like to know from Dr. Mukesh Jain whether Omnicor that he suggested is a an Ayurvedic substitute for the statins that the OP talked about. A web search on Omnicor did not give me any results. Thanks Gururaj Rao _____________________________ In New Jersey, Sanjay Jain MD is working on Cholesterol management on FDA guidelines. The product Omnicor is really worth trial. You can contact him at drsanjayjain or at 973-813-7256 Mukesh http://www.sanjivaniwellness.org Dr Mukesh D Jain MD Panch Karma & Yoga Division, Sanjivani Wellness Center Bhilai 490023 India Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2007 Report Share Posted December 13, 2007 I wonder if the spelling was correct? See results for: omacor LOVAZAT (omega-3-acid ethyl esters): FDA-approved omega-3 ATTENTION: POTENTIAL DISPENSING ERRORS Omacor Capsules and Amicar (aminocaproic acid) Tablets Click here for more information ... www.omacorrx.com/ Omacor Information from Drugs.com Omacor information from Drugs.com, includes Omacor side effects, interactions and indications. www.drugs.com/omacor.html Omacor Consumer Information Omacor is used along with diet to lower very high triglyceride levels in adult patients. Before taking Omacor, your health care provider should help you try ... www.fda.gov/Cder/consumerinfo/druginfo/omacor.htm ____ I would like to know from Dr. Mukesh Jain whether Omnicor that he suggested is a an Ayurvedic substitute for the statins that the OP talked about. A web search on Omnicor did not give me any results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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