Guest guest Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 please tell me whats the sign and properties of pure honey. thanks, dheeraj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 We have a nice article by an ayurvedic doctor in our archives. This article lists contents and types of hoeny, its properties, where it should be used: http://health.ayurveda/message/5052 Author suggests that above article be read before this present message. While so much about essential fatty acids (EFA)is being discussed here, essential glycosugars have missed the required empahsis. Just as so many ailmets can be cured with just adding EFA to the diet, similar result can be achieved by adding glycosugars to the diet. The part which could have completed the above article in all respects is " simple test " s for honey, which is provided here. There are thousands of tests for honey, devised by countries which import honey from other countries. What tests can be performed by an individual without much equipment are few. Color of hoeny varies over a wide range. Impure honeys has become commonplace in the market today, despite many people's preference for 100% bees' honey. The problem with this is, unfortunately, fake and impure honey can be passed off as pure very easily. When viewed on the shelf, it is very hard to pick out what is pure, and what is not. There are, however, a few ways to figure this out. One of the nutrients (sugar) in pure honey precipitates when it is subjected to cool weather. This precipitation gives an appearance of sugar crystals. The honey giving more sugar precipitates faster. Mostly this is mistaken for adulteration. But if the precipitated honey is kept in a vessel which in turn is kept in hot water it attains normal liquid state which shows that it has no adulterant. A cotton wick dipped in pure honey when lighted with a matchstick burns and shows the purity of honey. If adulterated, the presence of water will not allow the honey to burn, If it does, it will produce a cracking sound. You may carry out this test by taking a candle with cotton wick. Dip the wick in a little honey and light it with a match stick. If it refuses to burn, then the presence of water is not allowing the wick to burn. (If there is only a very small amount of honey on the wick, though, it might still burn. It will produce a crackling sound, and it would be best to blow out the wick and try it again this time using more honey.) Generally honey is adulterated by adding a syrup of jaggery. Pure honey does not dissolve in water but impure honey dissolves. So to test it mix a spoon of honey in a cup of water and find out whether it dissolves to check its purity. If it is pure, the honey will stick together and sink as a solid lump to the bottom of the glass. This test can also be completed by mixing equal parts honey and methylated spirits (denatured alcohol). Pure honey will settle to the bottom. Impure honey is more likely to remain dissolved and make the solution milky. Another simple test is to pour a few drops of honey on blotting paper and observe whether or not it is absorbed. If it's absorbed, the honey's not pure. If you don't have blotting paper, pour a little bit of honey on a white cloth, then wash the cloth. If there is any stain left by the honey, it is probably not pure. Crystallized, or granulated honey, is always pure. If you want to be completely sure that the honey you have bought is pure, that is the most reliable way. One test which appears simple but difficult to do is allowing an ant to walk over the surface of honey in a pan. Pure honey has sufficient viscocity so that ant walks from one end to other without difficulties. When little honey is put on the tongue, it gradually dissoves in saliva. The residual taste should be bitter The honey collected by bees from organic flowers and from plants grown in mineral rich soils, honey has more sugar. While these days the sugar content in fruits and vegetables is reduced due to depletion of soil minerals, trace minerals, the sugar content is also reduced. If you find honey from two different sources is pure, choose the one which has more sugar content, the one which tests sweeter in the beginning. Pure honey will heal diabetic ulcers too, which is the best test for its antibacterial ingredients. [http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-05/uow-ust050307.php] The antibacterial ingredients of honey are know studied and proven by modern science too. _________ please tell me whats the sign and properties of pure honey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 there is some confusion about the issue of these " glycosugars " , a term which is really a redundancy since " glyco " already means sugar - so we are talking about a " sugar-sugar " molecule which makes no sense, unless we are referring to repeating units of sugar molecules, for which there is already a term called " polysaccharide " , e.g. starch, cellulose, etc. too much hay is being made about these " essential glycosugars " , or perhaps more properly " glyconutrients " in fact, no special measure need be undertaken to obtain these nutrients, because they are abundantly present in fruits and vegetables if desired, one can obtain unique polysaccharides from herbs like Pushkaramula (Inula helenium - " inulin " ) or medicinal mushrooms like Shiitake (Lentinus edodes - " lentinin " ) really, the term " glycosugar " is a marketing term developed by the Mannatech corporation, and this where the confusion starts here is a review by ray sahelian : http://www.raysahelian.com/ glyconutrients.html also on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyconutrients as for polysaccharides, there are many different types and these have been well-studied in large part their effect is limited to the gut where they influence the gut ecology, which then modulates the immune system this effect is limited to the gut because most of these long-chain polysaccharides are indigestible and not actually absorbed this is not debate about the merits of unpastuerized honey, which has a lot more going for it than just its carbohydrate content its benefit has been lauded in ayurveda and every other traditional medical system, and some of its properties, e.g. wound-healing, have been verified by research HOWEVER, honey is still a source of rapidly digesting carbohydrates, and people would do well to watch their honey intake in traditional societies like ancient india, bee-keeping was fairly rudimentary and the actual yield and intake would have been a fraction of what people have available to them nowadays - like everything else, its in large part an industrial product in addition to honey, traditional peoples would have consumed the honeycomb and propolis - now of course honey is a " refined " product but you can still find these traditional honeys, packed with the original honeycomb in small amounts, yes honey is an elixir in large amounts consumed on a regular basis, honey will promote obesity, diabetes, dysbiosis, and increase the risk of cancer and CVD Caldecott, Dip. Cl.H, RH(AHG) Ayurvedic practitioner, Medical Herbalist 203 - 1750 East 10th Ave Vancouver, BC V5N 5K4 CANADA web: http//:www.toddcaldecott.com email: todd tel: (1)778.896.8894 fax: (1)866.703.2792 ___ Author suggests that above article be read before this present message. While so much about essential fatty acids (EFA)is being discussed here, essential glycosugars have missed the required empahsis. Just as so many ailmets can be cured with just adding EFA to the diet, similar result can be achieved by adding glycosugars to the diet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 creamed honey is a naturally crystallized honey that has been worked, or mixed, to yield a creamy consistency: http://www.honeycouncil.ca/users/folder.asp?FolderID=4823 the color of honey will depend on the source of nectar, e.g. buckwheat creates a much darker honey than alfalfa generally speaking, the darker the honey the better it is in terms of antioxidant activity, and as such, easily obtainable buckwheat is about the best: http://www.sciencenews.org/pages/sn_arc98/9_12_98/bob1.htm Caldecott, Dip. Cl.H, RH(AHG) Ayurvedic practitioner, Medical Herbalist 203 - 1750 East 10th Ave Vancouver, BC V5N 5K4 CANADA web: http//:www.toddcaldecott.com email: todd tel: (1)778.896.8894 fax: (1)866.703.2792 ________________________________ in canada hives are plenty so what are we exactly looking for perfect honey i buy it from farmers who have creamed it; how do they do this? Other times I have had the one that is very dark in color and turns to crystal both are said to be pure, unpasturized and organic right from the hive not the shop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 Hey Can you explain why it's recommended not to heat honey; other than it becomes hard to digest. This is a recommendation that I heard 30 years ago, and have followed ever since, only because " it felt right " to me. But I've never been able to get a good, strong, maybe even scientific reason why. Thanks, Patti Patti Garland Ayurvedic Chef and LifeStyle Coach Bliss Kitchen http://www.BlissKitchen.com (760) 902-7020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 but does creaming the honey have any negative impact? _______________ creamed honey is a naturally crystallized honey that has been worked, or mixed, to yield a creamy consistency: http://www.honeycouncil.ca/users/folder.asp?FolderID=4823 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 hi y'all the only explanation i have come up with is that honey may contain latent toxins from the flower nectar, and heating the honey activates these potential toxins however, not all flowers contribute toxins, and so it would seem that this traditional recommendation is made on the basis of not knowing from where the bees are gathering their nectar in ancient india honey was usually gathered from wild sources, and even as bee-keeping evolved, the beekeepers simply set up hives in the forest and thus didn't control the bees' access to nectar as such, the bees would gather nectar from any plant, and because some plants are toxic, there would be some degree of toxin in the gathered nectar and hence the honey itself i also review this in my book, and cite one study in which a honey was actually determined to be toxic due to the presence of toxins derived from the nectar of toxic plants i should add that in Chinese medicine, they actually stir-fry certain herbs like licorice root in honey to add to its medicinal properties - once again, perhaps this is a difference in the traditional sourcing of honey, apiary techniques or just a different perspective to be honest, i think that for the kind of honeys that are produced in the west, such as alfalfa and buckwheat, in which the nectar is non-toxic, that heating the honey would have no bad effect the other reason to not heat honey of course is that its unique chemistry, containing an array of phytochemicals, vitamins and enzymes, is denatured with heat as for the question, does creaming destroy the natural qualities of the honey i would say no, as this process is by and large natural however, as most creamed honey i see is pasteurized and would avoid it for this reason best... Caldecott, Dip. Cl.H, RH(AHG) Ayurvedic practitioner, Medical Herbalist 203 - 1750 East 10th Ave Vancouver, BC V5N 5K4 CANADA web: http//:www.toddcaldecott.com email: todd tel: (1)778.896.8894 fax: (1)866.703.2792 _______ Can you explain why it's recommended not to heat honey; other than it becomes hard to digest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Hey Thanks again for taking the time to explain. Do you ever sleep, my friend?!!! This makes a lot of sense, and feels like the new place to move forward from. Blissfully, Patti Patti Garland Ayurvedic Chef and LifeStyle Coach Bliss Kitchen http://www.BlissKitchen.com (760) 902-7020 _ the only explanation i have come up with is that honey may contain latent toxins from the flower nectar, and heating the honey activates these potential toxins however, not all flowers contribute toxins, and so it would seem that this traditional recommendation is made on the basis of not knowing from where the bees are gathering their nectar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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