Is auto-urine therapy tamasik?

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Dear Vaidyas:

 

I have been thinking of trying out the auto-urine therapy (other

names: Amaroli/Shivambu) for my mental condition (Schizophrenia) as

nothing else seems to be working. My panchakarma is scheduled

sometime in February of the next year. So, I am hoping to get some

relief by the auto-urine therapy in the meantime.

 

The concern I have is that many of my friends tell me that it is

Tamasik and that unless they are forced to do it, they will not

pursue it. So, that has me worried. I asked another Vaidya and he

said that it is not at all Tamasik, but I wanted to confirm with the

group as well.

 

Could you please tell me if such a therapy is in the mode of

ignorance/tamas or not?

 

Thanks a lot,

Matt

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ayurveda , " mattremley " <mattremley

wrote:

> The concern I have is that many of my friends tell me that it is

> Tamasik and that unless they are forced to do it, they will not

> pursue it. So, that has me worried. I asked another Vaidya and he

> said that it is not at all Tamasik, but I wanted to confirm with the

> group as well.

 

 

Dear Matt

 

This therapy you can stir into any type you want by adjusting your

diet. What the therapy does is just give you in micronutrient form the

food that you eat. In this therapy, you get in urine what you eat, and

therefore, you become what you eat finally. The concepts are already

explained at:

 

http://health.ayurveda/message/11544

 

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ayurveda , " mattremley " <mattremley

wrote:

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>

> Dear Vaidyas:

>

> I have been thinking of trying out the auto-urine therapy (other

> names: Amaroli/Shivambu) for my mental condition (Schizophrenia) as

> nothing else seems to be working. My panchakarma is scheduled

> sometime in February of the next year. So, I am hoping to get some

> relief by the auto-urine therapy in the meantime.

 

Matt -

 

I am sure you will get mixed opinions on this subject but in my

opinion a person with Schizophrenia should not do Shivambu. An

important contributing factor in Schizophrenia (especially if there

are sensory symptoms like auditory or visual anamolies) is the adrenal

chemical Adrenochrome and it's metabolite Adrenolutin - Adrenolutin is

the primary cause of many of the symptoms of Schizophrena - it is

eliminated through the kidneys and taking Shivambu would simply

recycle this toxin - this is true of many toxins - if you eat non-veg

or take drugs then this would be further contraindication for

Shivambu. Panchkarma done under the supervision of an experienced

practioner will definately help you to remove many layers of the

toxins which are causing symptoms as well as balancing Doshas which

are the underlying cause of the disease process.

 

Adrenochrome is helpful in brain chemistry but if it is not

metabolized properly then it creates a chemical called Adrenolutin -

which is a dangerous toxin in excess. This is a big subject but I

agree with Dr Hoffer that these chemicals are important players in

spiritual development and the many transcendent experiences that

spiritual adepts have but these chemicals should not be elevated in

normally toxic individuals because only the pure should go for

spiritual attainment otherwise big problems can arise - these

chemicals Adrenochrome and Adrenolutin are important players in

pathologies of Kundalini - these chemicals are best not stimulated in

ordinary people - and if they become elevated best clear them from the

body. Meet with a Vaidya and let them give suggestions on your

particular case. Manasamitra vatakam has been used for many different

brain diseases - Shankapushpi is also excellent taken at night with

warm milk - the key for you should be to remain as steady as possible

(avoid stressors)until you do Panchakarma. In your disease it is very

important to take Panchakarma under a very experienced practioner

since I have seen inexperienced practioners over drain the case

creating even further disturbances in Vata making symptoms worse. Do

not fast or do other severe cleansing practices - enemas, purgation,

breathing exercises - on your own. It is important to avoid anything

that stimulates adrenal (catecholomine) reactions as this will further

agravate Adrenolutin problems.

 

Here are two links to Adrenochrome - one is an Erowid piece refering

to modern understandings on these issues -

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrenochrome

 

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/adrenochrome/adrenochrome_info1.shtml

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Dear Sir

I am not a Vaidya but a simple user of the urine therapy. I know that some

mental conditions are generated by body impurities. Before starting the urine

therapy you need to take 3 steps: Step 1 - clean your kidneys, clean your

stomach and clean your liver. It is very important because if you don " t , the

intake of fresh (not boiled) urine may cause vomiting. Step 2 - change your

diet. Before urine intake you must exclude meat and all its products, milk and

all its products, eggs, tea and coffee, pepper, salt, mustard and everything

that may give a bad taste or odor to your urine. Consume more fruits and

vegetables. Step 3- Renounce all medicine that you took before starting the

urine therapy, even if it is very important to you because every medicine passes

into urine and you may be poisoned by such a urine. Two weeks before starting

urine therapy your body needs to eliminate all medical products. In the case of

a regular use of a medicine you need to

consult your doctor to have his advise on how to renounce of it. Urine therapy

is a very good way of cure oneself and gives good results if you start it right.

Good luck

 

 

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I have been thinking of trying out the auto-urine therapy (other

names: Amaroli/Shivambu) for my mental condition (Schizophrenia) as

nothing else seems to be working. My panchakarma is scheduled

sometime in February of the next year. So, I am hoping to get some

relief by the auto-urine therapy in the meantime.

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Hi Matt

 

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I have been thinking of trying out the auto-urine therapy (other

names: Amaroli/Shivambu) for my mental condition (Schizophrenia) as

nothing else seems to be working.

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Hi

 

So far, I have mostly been trying to follow an ayurvedic detox diet seriously.

So, I have been eating Khichari only for last 3 months. Taking triphala and

cow-urine in the mornings. Although I did not see much of an impact on my mental

symptoms due to the diet, herb, and cow-urine (been taking for last one month

only), I have lost over 14 lbs of toxic weight and feel more energy than before.

 

I know that Ayurvedic treatment takes a long time, so I need to be patient,

but thought of trying auto-urine therapy out anyway after reading so much about

it. As I mentioned in my original email, a Panchakarma session is scheduled

anyway 3 months down the road.

 

Regards,

Matt

 

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