Urine

[Guest guest]

Sorcy,

 

<Okay, I fezz up.... y'all KNOW I have an oral fixation >

 

No Comment!!!

 

(in case we ever end up sick as a dog in ahostage situation, for example - no, I'm not entirely nuts, I have anoverimaginative activation, no wait, oh whattheheck, you know what I mean -and like to be prepared. I could teach you how to act when your car drivesinto a river and sinks, during a plain crash, hostage situation, you nameit I reiterate, No Comment!!!!!

 

Love,

Vicki ( Smirking at the fixation combined with imagination...sounds like an adult movie LOL!

And getting the feeling my hubby would love to meet you.)

 

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[Guest guest]

I've also heard that one's own fresh urine, applied externally, is helpful for skin rashes. Collected mid-stream. No personal experience, however!

 

Catherine

 

 

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Par Scott

Thursday, November 14, 2002 11:23 AM

Urine

 

Hi Group

I took a die da class with Ping Chan in Boston, and he spoke highly of the qualities of urine, again from a young boy. I believe he recommended it for topical application as well, using it like wine to speed the formulas entry into the system. He had personal anecdotes. Fresh is apparently best. I know that it is used to dissolve sea urchin spines, from bitter personal experience, though in that case any urine had to do.

My understanding is that there is a Vedic or yoga practice of taking one's own urine, presumably as a purification, since cows urine is also taken that way, and is one of the most potent purifications available for a soiled Brahmin. And there are certainly people in this country who have taken what might have been a nominally good idea and run with it.

 

Some sketchy but engagingly written material is available at:

 

http://utopia.knoware.nl/users/cvdk/urinetherapy/

 

There is a bibliography, and a link to something called "urifun" which I'm going to assiduously avoid.

 

and no, I do not drink or topically apply my own, or anyone else's urine, just trying to be thorough.Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education.

[Guest guest]

There are many interesting urine autotherapies. I recall an interview with the Indian statesman Desai, who attributed his good health into his nineties to drinking his own urine every day. There is an interesting instructional video tape by Healing Tao guru Mantak Chia & al., available from the Healing Tao Video Library which discusses : "the practice of controlling menstruation has to be combined with the drinking of the Water of Life through the nose and the Empty Force training. This practice is a major process in transforming blood in women..." (liner notes). A long available (and presumably still in-print) book from Health Science Press (UK) is John W. Armstrong's, THE WATER OF LIFE: A Treatise in Urine-Therapy. It discusses occidental approaches to treating diseases with the urine of the patient. I have mused upon the notion that drinking one's own urine may constitute a sort of homeopathic (or, more accurately, isopathic) treatment, whereby the pathogens are somehow homepathically potentized or dynamized by their succusive and alchemical excursion through the kidneys or other zang-fu. Personally, I have never (knowingly) consumed my own nor anybody else's urine... although I have tasted some American lager beers which have certainly made me wonder.

--Neal White.

 

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Catherine Hemenway

Thursday, November 14, 2002 3:49 PM

Re: Urine

 

I've also heard that one's own fresh urine, applied externally, is helpful for skin rashes. Collected mid-stream. No personal experience, however!

 

Catherine

 

 

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Par Scott

Thursday, November 14, 2002 11:23 AM

Urine

 

Hi Group

I took a die da class with Ping Chan in Boston, and he spoke highly of the qualities of urine, again from a young boy. I believe he recommended it for topical application as well, using it like wine to speed the formulas entry into the system. He had personal anecdotes. Fresh is apparently best. I know that it is used to dissolve sea urchin spines, from bitter personal experience, though in that case any urine had to do.

My understanding is that there is a Vedic or yoga practice of taking one's own urine, presumably as a purification, since cows urine is also taken that way, and is one of the most potent purifications available for a soiled Brahmin. And there are certainly people in this country who have taken what might have been a nominally good idea and run with it.

 

Some sketchy but engagingly written material is available at:

 

http://utopia.knoware.nl/users/cvdk/urinetherapy/

 

There is a bibliography, and a link to something called "urifun" which I'm going to assiduously avoid.

 

and no, I do not drink or topically apply my own, or anyone else's urine, just trying to be thorough.Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education.

[Guest guest]

POSTSCRIPT

from Neal White

 

Sorry, I accidentally omitted the title of the Mantak Chia video, in case anybody is interested:

SLAYING THE RED DRAGON:

For the Immortal Sister

Transforming Blood into Chi

Controlling Menstruation

 

 

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Catherine Hemenway

Thursday, November 14, 2002 3:49 PM

Re: Urine

 

I've also heard that one's own fresh urine, applied externally, is helpful for skin rashes. Collected mid-stream. No personal experience, however!

 

Catherine

 

 

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Par Scott

Thursday, November 14, 2002 11:23 AM

Urine

 

Hi Group

I took a die da class with Ping Chan in Boston, and he spoke highly of the qualities of urine, again from a young boy. I believe he recommended it for topical application as well, using it like wine to speed the formulas entry into the system. He had personal anecdotes. Fresh is apparently best. I know that it is used to dissolve sea urchin spines, from bitter personal experience, though in that case any urine had to do.

My understanding is that there is a Vedic or yoga practice of taking one's own urine, presumably as a purification, since cows urine is also taken that way, and is one of the most potent purifications available for a soiled Brahmin. And there are certainly people in this country who have taken what might have been a nominally good idea and run with it.

 

Some sketchy but engagingly written material is available at:

 

http://utopia.knoware.nl/users/cvdk/urinetherapy/

 

There is a bibliography, and a link to something called "urifun" which I'm going to assiduously avoid.

 

and no, I do not drink or topically apply my own, or anyone else's urine, just trying to be thorough.Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education.

[Guest guest]

On 11/15/02 11:29 AM, " "

wrote:

 

> I once had a patient who was a World War II veteran. He told me this long

> story about being wounded in the Philipines and using his urine to disinfect

> the wound. Unfortunately the punch line was that the wound got totally

> infected and caused him troubles ever since.

> doug

 

I think it's prepubescent boy urine that disinfects. Remember the movie

" King of Masks " in which the girls identity as a girl was discovered because

they asked her for some urine to treat a wound.

 

Sharon

[Guest guest]

This sounds absurd. You saw it in a movie so its canon? Any healthy urine

properly appropriated should deliver the desired effect.

 

Worldpeace,

Ben Jah

 

<< I think it's prepubescent boy urine that disinfects. Remember the movie

" King of Masks " in which the girls identity as a girl was discovered because

they asked her for some urine to treat a wound. >>

[Guest guest]

I wrote about urine to another group I belong to. I will post the

responses I got from them. On this group and a urine group, I was

told that urine is sterile when it is fresh. The responses I got

from the other group was that it had toxins and it is not sterile.

Where can I get a definitive answer on what urine is composed of as

far as toxins and sterility?

 

GB

 

Not only does urine contain toxic substances in a highly concentrated

form, but it's not

necessarily sterile. We probably carry around 10 pounds of bacteria

around in our bodies

at any given time. Mostly in our digestive tract, but we have

bacteria pretty much

everywhere, a symbiosis that developed over millions of years of

mammalian evolution.

Whatever bacteria comes out in your urine is already in your body and

won't make you sick

if you use your own urine to clean a wound on your own body. However,

because urine is

high in ammonia, which is a fertilizer, it will act like Miracle Grow

for any foreign bacteria

in the wound.

 

Really, the best way to wash a wound is clean filtered boiled or

chemically-treated water,

period. Boiling or chemical treatment are the only way to make sure

that all nasties in

water are either dead or inactivated to the point they won't make you

sick. As for the

notion of drinking urine, bad, BAD idea. The whole point of your

kidneys is to get rid of

stuff that's bad for you. Maybe you could use urine as the " seed " for

a solar still, but that's

about it.

[Guest guest]

this is only theory. practise is contradicting them.

make a test by yourself: just put urine on a wound and u will with your own eyes

how fast is healing without getting infected. old people in my country are doing

it since ever, so if there would be any problem they would have had enough time

to notice it, don't u think? they also advice using your own urine or baby urine

to keep the face skin beatifull and free of acne.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Not only does urine contain toxic substances in a highly concentrated form, but

it's not necessarily sterile....

Whatever bacteria comes out in your urine is already in your body and won't make

you sick if you use your own urine to clean a wound on your own body.

 

However, because urine is

high in ammonia, which is a fertilizer, it will act like Miracle Grow

for any foreign bacteria in the wound.

[Guest guest]

> Not only does urine contain toxic substances in a highly

concentrated

> form, but it's not

> necessarily sterile.

 

True as well as false. That is the reason, precautions during self urine

therapy:

 

1. One should not be taking any synthetic drugs.

 

2. The toxins content in urine increases when we eat cooked foods.

 

3. It is generally recommended to eat vegetable and fruits only for

3-4 days before starting self urine therapy.

 

4. Follow the recommended procedure strictly: Leave first third part

and last third part, take only middle third part. The first and last

thrid part contain low density and high density toxins respectively.

This may have been learnt from the intelligence of our ancestor. See

the file Monkey_UT.mpeg stored in group files as per message 11517. By

clicking on the link provided there, you can download the file to

your computer and watch using Windows Media Player. Do not watch directly in

Explorer.

 

5. The mystery of urine therapy is that it works even when one has urine

infection! Another magic cure: People who fainted under heat stroke were revived

by giving them human urine injections by adventurous doctors! Please read the

books. At least 80 books exist on urine therapy.

 

6. Cow urine therapy is safer as she does not eat cooked food, raw food passes

through her longest intestine( 120 feet) and she adds aurium hydroxide to her

urine, milk. She is unique animal on planet who does this. Ayurveda ancient

texts and puranas mention the gold compound. That is why this special nadi in

her spine is termed " Suvarna Ketu " .

 

 

> Whatever bacteria comes out in your urine is already in your body

and

> won't make you sick

> if you use your own urine to clean a wound on your own body.

However,

> because urine is

> high in ammonia, which is a fertilizer, it will act like Miracle

Grow

> for any foreign bacteria

> in the wound.

Already this is answered by others.

 

There are several patient (From Mumbai and Gujrat) names, addresses, phone

numbers in a directory published. If urine therapy works in

India, it should work everywhere, since urine is the product of

environment ingested by the patient. The intelligence of extraction from the

food should remain same everywhere.

 

Testing the early morning urine is one sure shot way of finding which foods are

suitable for you, which foods excreate more toxins in urine. Which foods are

satva, which are rajas and which are tamas specifically for each constitution.

 

Urine therapy has many cures, people use them without even bothering why they

work.

 

People leave this therapy, when Herxheimer reaction comes. this therapy is used

mostly by ascetics!

[Guest guest]

hi again

the images u sent were a lot in my mind and made me remember something

as a teenage, the skin of my elbows was all the time affected by my passion for

byke. when my mother was applying an antibiotic powder on them, they were all

the time going through a fase in which they were looking almost like yours,

covered with that white thing that looks like infection. the difference was they

were not so deep. my mother used to say it's just a stage before healing. i have

no scars there, even if every week i had such a thing, covered with that white

something. when i was told about urine and started using it, it was less bad

looking than while using antibiotic powder from farmacy.

for sure there are differences here, maybe someone else who knows better will

explain

[Guest guest]

U think that urine may be very effective because it

also contains many nutrients that our body flushes

out.

Is this why it is effective?

I do not think urine is taming with sickness.

If there is a little puss in the urine doctors put

people on antibiotics so it seems to me that urine

should be pretty clean - there should not be a lot of

unatural bacteria in it - certainly not more than

saliva?

[Guest guest]

sterility refers to the lack of micro-organisms

toxins are found in the urine, but these are metabolic wastes and not

bacterial products

in healthy people with no infection, freshly voided urine should be

sterile

Caldecott

todd

www.toddcaldecott.com

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I wrote about urine to another group I belong to. I will post the

responses I got from them. On this group and a urine group, I was

told that urine is sterile when it is fresh. The responses I got

from the other group was that it had toxins and it is not sterile.

Where can I get a definitive answer on what urine is composed of as

far as toxins and sterility?