Ayurveda discussion

[Guest guest]

Dear

Do you want to say that ayurvedic scriptures are just a collection of

verses?

 

AND the discussion of ayurveda on internet site should be done to make

people aware of its rich content, to learn the preventive aspects in

maintaining health and exposing to first-line remedial action in day-to-day

health deviations. It is not intended to make practitioners out of such

discussions. No medical knowledge can be complete without a hands-on

training on patients and the actual applicability of that science in

treatment. I think nobody should expect this site to make people trained for

Ayurvedic treatments to be used on others.

 

Whether Buddha liked Samskrit or not, his physician definitely knew

Sanskrit. All the knowledge in Nalanda and Taxashila was imparted in

Sanskrit. Ayurvedic scriptures have nothing to do with Buddha. and his

philosophy. It is a totally different issue.

 

The name of Vaidya B.P.Nanal commands very high respect among Ayurvedic

practitioners and is not the name to be cheaply dispensed with.

 

Ayurveda does not need a western validation as in the case diabetes and it

is on the insistence of Westerners that the correlation is put forward. It

is because the queries are initially put forward that the answers come

forth. It is not the initiative of Ayurvedic side to mould itself in western

physiological context?

 

Still miles to go before real ayurveda is understood and grasped.

 

Dr.D.B.Muzumdar

M.D.Ayurvedic Medicine (MUMBAI-INDIA)

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this is the way it is and has always been, but it doesn't stop these

truths from being rediscovered as i demonstrated very clearly in my

paper on samuel thomson..........the big deception is that ayurveda is difficult

to understand!...........you can spend your life in a book or reciting mantras

and be no wiser

- many great pandits are learned but end up at the feet of an

enlightened fisherwoman..............

why did lord buddha speak in pali? because sanskrit was irrelevant to

the universal truth he was enunciating, just like sanskrit is

fundamentally irrelevant to the universal truth of ayurveda

[Guest guest]

> Do you want to say that ayurvedic scriptures are just a collection of verses?

 

no - perhaps you would like me to? would this serve your argument

better?

 

> Whether Buddha liked Samskrit or not, his physician definitely knew

> Sanskrit. All the knowledge in Nalanda and Taxashila was imparted in

> Sanskrit. Ayurvedic scriptures have nothing to do with Buddha. and his

philosophy. It is a totally different issue.

 

its not a different issue in that a spiritual approach rooted in the

vedas could be taught in a different language and still yield fruit

why should this equation only hold for the salvation of our soul, but

not something comparatively mundane as medicine?

think!

 

> The name of Vaidya B.P.Nanal commands very high respect among

> Ayurvedic practitioners and is not the name to be cheaply dispensed with.

 

have i dispensed with it? I have a explicitly stated that learning

sanskrit and the ayurvedic texts is not important?

please reread my comments and stop putting words into my mouth -

strawman arguments won't work with me

 

> Ayurveda does not need a western validation as in the case diabetes > and it

is on the insistence of Westerners that the correlation is put forward. It is

because the queries are initially put forward that the answers come > forth. It

is not the initiative of Ayurvedic side to mould itself > in western

physiological context?

 

once again, you appear not to grasp the substance of my arguments,

and fail to accurately paraphrase and summarize my argument

 

have i said that ayurveda _needs_ the validation of western

medicine? in my last email i questioned the apparent hypocrisy of

one writer who chimes in with statements of the need for an authentic

understanding of ayurveda, who then goes on to explain his

understanding as a hodge-podge of medico-ayurvedic thinking

 

from the beginning i was interested to discuss the finer points of

diabetes from an ayurvedic context, but so far we have been unable to

because we have got caught up your peripheral arguments that only

serve to perpetuate a debate that appears to be mostly fruitless, and

from your comment below, is perhaps getting a little too personal

 

to reiterate, my original argument was that in madumeha the blood is

both sweet and astringent, and that from these components it is

inferred that the disease plays itself out around the polarity of

vata and kapha

 

the need here is to balance the aggravated component of vata against

the simultaneous sweetness (kapha) of the blood

 

i said that this ayurvedic rationale facilitates an understanding of

dietary options for diabetes that extends traditional indian dietary

therapy, and supports a low carb approach, and that for non-

vegetarians lean proteins will help to reduce vata, but at the same

time won't aggravate kapha and kleda

 

my understanding of this has nothing to do with atkins or anything

else, but is based on the dravyguna of these lean animal proteins,

which are both sweet and and a little astringent in nature; some are

also pungent which can help reduce kleda, but others that are more

fatty may worsen kapha (such as marsh animals including duck, goose,

pheasant etc), although some fatty meats like goat actually reduce

kapha and balance vata

 

some grains and legumes etc also fit into this category as well, but

none are as effective to reduce the vata component than the lean

animal proteins

 

this was all stated as an argument against the high carb kapha-

reducing vegetarian approach to diabetes that quite frankly is slowly

killing more people than it is helping, at least with regard to this

particular disease syndrome, and even if the high caste brahmin red

rice diet is followed it will still be inappropriate for a large

number of people outside of india, and that my support for this is

based on the application of the bioregional ethic ayurvedic principles

 

> Still miles to go before real ayurveda is understood and grasped.

 

peace....

 

todd caldecott