Guest guest Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Namaste, Does anyone have some suggestion how to treat tuberculosis without using antibiotics? And how about the dormant state of virus, ? Is there something to worry about? Thank you, AS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 i know that Pueraria is good in tbc, mainly for its vitalizing effect i'll check and see what other info i can find. __ Does anyone have some suggestion how to treat tuberculosis without using antibiotics? And how about the dormant state of virus, ? Is there something to worry about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 also bala (sida cordifolia) ____________ i know that Pueraria is good in tbc, mainly for its vitalizing effect i'll check and see what other info i can find....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 please eat just desi paan with katha for whole day and night ( 24 hours). its fakiri nuskha for TB. Read raaj yakshma stotra written in RIG VEDA.. Try to live below peepal tree for 40 days regularly. these are tips for curing TB .bUT U MAY CONTINUE YOUR REGULAR MEDICINES EVEN. THANKS, DHEERAJ KHOSLA, DELHI ___ how to treat tuberculosis without using antibiotics? And how about the dormant state of virus, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Where are you located? In what country? Cl --- Ala Sudol <alasudol wrote: > Does anyone have some suggestion how to treat > tuberculosis without using antibiotics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Dear Ala, In the present scenario, it is not possible to treat tuberculosis without antibiotics. However, the anti-TB treatment can be supplimented with Ayurvedic regimes for better recovery and to avoid drug resistance. Tuberculosis is caused by bacteria and not virus. Total cure of TB infection is the only way to cure, otherwise repeated infections and drug resistance can be a source of worry, besides the poor quality of life. Dr.D.B.Muzumdar M.D.Ayurveda-Medicine (MUMBAI-INDIA) < dahpc > __, Does anyone have some suggestion how to treat tuberculosis without using antibiotics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Hi, This Dr. Mukesh Pandya from INDIA. There is a very good treatment in Ayurveda. If you want any clinical advise Pl. send me full details of patient, I will observe the case histry and sudgest the line of treatment. Thanks, Regards Dr. Mukesh Pandya M.D. (A.M.) Consulting Physician dr.mukeshpandya dr.mukeshpandya +919820416501 --- Ala Sudol <alasudol wrote: > Does anyone have some suggestion how to treat > tuberculosis without using antibiotics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Dear Dr.Mukesh, I am a state-registered Ayurvedic Consultant practicng since last 18 years. I am still in want of ' a very good treatment in Ayurveda ' for tuberculosis after so many years of ayurvedic practice. Can you please give some general guide-lines of your Ayurvedic regime for tuberculosis, so that they may be forwarded to W.H.O., for world-wide benefit of TB patients. Dr.D.B.Muzumdar M.D.Ayurveda-Medicine (MUMBAI-INDIA) < dahpc > _ There is a very good treatment in Ayurveda. If you want any clinical advise Pl. send me full details of patient, I will observe the case histry and sudgest the line of treatment. Dr. Mukesh Pandya M.D. (A.M.) Consulting Physician dr.mukeshpandya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 W.H.O. - if you are referring to the World Health Organization this organization is not well thought of in the west or in many other parts of the world as it is considered that they have spread disease and poor information and care to the detriment of many peoples of the earth and have done little generally to increase the health of the population. Are you connected with this group? Have you found their works beneficial? Jane ______________________________ Can you please give some general guide-lines of your Ayurvedic regime for tuberculosis, so that they may be forwarded to W.H.O., for world-wide benefit of TB patients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 For Vaidyas who do not worry if the name of the disease is known or whether it is caused by virus, bacteria or fungus, treating a patient is never a problem. Vata, Pitta Kapha in pulse guide them. Diagnosis by 8 different means as discussed in ancient texts becomes a great help. However, this needs patients presence. There are several examples in archives where partial relief has been obtained by online suggestions, but final cure requires face to face meet. However, unless person is just standing in the doorstep of paradise, Vaidya will always try to help. IF you do some research you will see that Tuberculosis is a result of bacteria and not virus. The best antibiotic without any side effects, safe even in these days is Indian cow urine or its distillate. But not available outside India, Global patent for its use is held by Indians. Unfortunately, modern ayurvedists have closed there eyes for reasons best known to them. This is just like diuretics are no more of interest as anti-hypertensives. Under the circumstances some grandma remedies are here for partial relief. Some are from ancient texts. Do not try all. just see what is possible in your circumstances. 6-8 months is what is needed time. Keep worries and fear away. Mix powder of Gokharu (Tribulus Terrestris ) or Ashwgandha (Withania Somnifera) with honey, lick it and drink milk over it to cure cough. Take 3 pills of Trifala gugal thrice a day. Hope this is possible for you, in case getting above medicines is difficult: If you can get goat milk, drink 200 gm goat's milk in the morning and evening after adding little salt (2-4 pinches). This will help to gain strength, remove cough easily avoid weakness. This is exceptional remedy, as milk+salt is considered incompatible diet. Only insight of people from Saurashtra, Kathiawad and Rajastan rigions of India has popularised such exceptional remedies. Take crystal sugar(big size), mix half the quantity of turmeric powder in it. Take 1 tsp of powder along with honey 3 times a day to cure fever, cough and cold. These symptoms are generally present in the beginning stages. Take equal proportions of dates, raisins, crystal sugar, ghee, honey and long pepper, make a paste of it. By licking 25 grams of this paste daily helps to get relief from cough and breathing problem. Eating fresh butter with honey helps to treat T.B. Put 10 to 20 drops of garlic juice in 25 to 30 gm of Ardusi leaves juice and drink it daily in morning and evening to cure T.B. Basil is ideal. If you get holy basil leaves, this provides best home remedy compared to all above. But author would let you know only if you have this plant in your house. Lastly, the ghee mentioned in above remedies is made from indian cow milk, by traditional process only. This process is time consuming, but yields ghee having more potency as medicine. Unless otherwise mentioned, milk is also indian cow milk. these are suggestions, to be discussed with your healer. Details of how long, when to stop, how many remedies should be tried, he will decide. Turmeric is now of much interest as anti-cancer herb to western researchers. Its effectiveness is discussed in archives. __ Does anyone have some suggestion how to treat tuberculosis without using antibiotics? And how about the dormant state of virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Can you explain why this incompatible combination becomes beneficial in this situation, please? Thank you. Patti Garland Ayurvedic Chef and LifeStyle Coach Bliss Kitchen http://www.BlissKitchen.com (760) 902-7020 _____________________ This is exceptional remedy, as milk+salt is considered incompatible diet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Dear Jane, I referred to W.H.O. because it is the organisation which decides the world-wide policies about health which the doctors (state registered) have to abide with. the anti-tubercular antibiotic regime is the only assured source of cure, whatever bad side-effects it may be having. If the Ayurvedic cure is really worth it, then it can be definitely implemented all over the world. That was my view. No, I am not connected with this organisation. But however any rules set forth by W.H.O. which are implimented by the Indian Government is to be followed by me. I have to abide being a registered doctor. Dr.D.B.Muzumdar _________________________________ Are you connected with this group? Have you found their works beneficial? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 The effect of herbs on our body is studied and recorded as empirical knowledge in ancient texts and collective experience of generations. Now if some one analyses a group of herbs producing similar effect and finds some chemical X in all, one can say that chemical X has such a property, when present with other components as well. Is this the explaination for benificial action of the herb? This kind of querries arise due to scientific mindset. Generally scientific analysis purpose is to know which molecule is most active and can it be prepared synthetically to secure a patent. Another purpose is in advertising the drug. In the particular case, the mucus forming tendency of the milk is suppressed due to presence of salt. Salt causes milk proteins and whey to separate and the benificial action of whey may be causing the benifits. Salt also has a scraping tendency on mucus accumulated in all passages, where ever it reaches. That is the reason it is used in Neti water. In home remedies no one bothers why they work. One adopts them based on faith handed down from one generation to next. Milk boiled with turmeric powder, and salt/jaggery added just before drinking works in similar manner in dry cough. Benificial properties of whey are already discussed in archives. Instead of salt, one can use jaggery too, the minerals in it giving similar effect. Here jaggery must not be chemically treated to get good color and remove its salty taste. The organic jaggery is rich in minerals and has salty taste. When incompatible mix is used as remedy, it is to be noted that it is to be used for a short period only. In Charak Samhita, Chapte 1, " Aushadhi and Chikitsak " , Shloka 127, " Even venomous poison when administered properly as medicine becomes the best of medicines but when the best medicine is used improperly it becomes poison. " So use it cautiously. We can offer only suggestions from the distance. _ Can you explain why this incompatible combination becomes beneficial in this situation, please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Thank you very much for taking the time to express your explanation. I will research the archives to read more about the healing qualities of whey. When I started reading your post, I was wondering why you were telling me about the scientific mindset to extract chemicals looking for the panacea. And then as I continued to read how the salt separates the milk proteins and whey, that the whey " may be causing the benefits, " my mind jumped to, well then, why not just drink whey and salt! However, I quickly came to my senses and realized why fix something that's not broken. I understand all the points you are trying to make, and it's very much appreciated. Blissfully yours, Patti Patti Garland Ayurvedic Chef and LifeStyle Coach Bliss Kitchen http://www.BlissKitchen.com (760) 902-7020 _ In the particular case, the mucus forming tendency of the milk is suppressed due to presence of salt. Salt causes milk proteins and whey to separate and the benificial action of whey may be causing the benifits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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