Ayurveda-urine therapy

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>i still have sometimes bad quality sleep. a friend told me that if

we go to bathroom to pee in morning and before colecting the urine

only a ray of light touches our skin, there will not be any drop of

active melatonin lef in the fluid.

 

To have melatonin getting eliminated in urine, you should have

enjoyed so deep sleep that you get up fresh approximately at 4 - 5

o'clock local mean time. Good sleep for 6 hours is OK for people who

do yoga, meditation etc and have no stress at all. They will be

eliminating melatonin in urine. If one collects urine at this time,

question of light does not arise.

 

> it's hard to belive this for some logical reasons. first i know the

light will prevent the pineal gland (epiphysis cerebri) from

producing its hormones, but will not inactivate the hormones existing

in body (in blood or wherever). second, the urine is inside the

urinary bladder and i don't thik the ray of light will affect the

hormone through so many layers (skin, fat, pelvic bones and muscles,

the walls of bladder). still he put a doubt in my mind, cause i

didn't read any seriouse study on this particular aspect. will it be

inactivated if sun rays will touch the fluid when i collect it?

 

what already exists in bladder will be collected. so if melatonin

exists, it will be collected. When urine is put in a glass bottle and

exposed to sunlight 10 am to 3 pm daily for 5-10 days, a concentrated

skin cosmetic results. Being 98% practice and 2% theory, do it

yourself and find out the effect on skin. application should be by

gentle massage for 15-20 minutes and detailed procedures can be read

in uropathy books, or in archives of this group. urine should get

absorbed in the skin and do not use of synthetic soaps during cold

water bath after skin dries up fully.

 

>pls read beyond those symbols and understand what we can reach by

using this therapy.

 

One example should speak what can be written in thick volumes. Hon. Morarji

Desai, late prime minsiter of India, passed away at age 99

after practicing the therapy for more than 30 years. His skin was

pinkish and smooth like a 20 year old girl's skin. Author has seen

him from a distance of six feet and could sense his youthful fountain

of energy. even from a distance. He reached to meet us at 7 am in

morning! All fresh and walking like a youth aged 20. Did not use any

electronic equipment to address a 500 strong crowd and delivered speech for just

15

minutes, standing erect at age 86, the voice having hypnotic effect.

 

 

 

> i do not say that urine is soma. soma is a subtile fluid. but, as

any sublile phenomena, this energy can get materialized in different

manners. part of its " material " expressions are pineal hormones,

which are eliminated through urine and we can recirculate into our

body by this manner. this subtil fluid seems to be related to

tarpaka kapha also.

 

Soma is drunk by yogi in Khechari mudra, a drop or two of possibly

cerebro-spinal fluid, rich in proteins, glucose and minerals.

 

> when i " tasted " sringataka (trapa bispinosa). i had just a state

of " listening " inside. percienving my structure like a void space

with " walls " which were listening the space inside, completly

detached from anything, just enjoying this state. sringataka is sweet

taste, rasayana, having spiritual effects (used in spiritual

fasting). all this makes me think it might be another expression of

soma. could it be?

 

author understands shringataka as one spot where prana is absorbed. It is a

marma spot.

It is located above the spot where tongue touches in the beginning

stages of khechari. To understand what is khechari visit:

http://www.geocities.com/kriyadc/kechari.html

 

you can feel strong pulsations at the spot where

you put thumb and another finger during pranayama. Nasal passage has

many nerve endings. Air is made to turn downward causing friction

above the shringataka. During meditation, breathing to excite

sushumna nadi, a drop or two of soma falls. Neti and nasya highten

the effect of breathing techniques and energy currents are felt

during the relaxation phase. Even volumes of material can not be equated with

self experience where Tantra is concerned.

 

It may be interesting to connect the hormonal cycles of the body

with manifestations of bioenergy inside the etherial body. There

exist many propositions to connect these phenomena with bio energy.

Author describes these in brief, since voluminous books have been

written on these theories. Physics, quantum mechanics familiarity

will make it easier to understand these.

 

The energy exhibits several vortices, which generally exist in

twins, having opposite spins. (The strength of these vortices for an

individual can be judged by examining 3-6-9-12 houses of the natal

chart) These energy vortices have another characteristic: they

pulsate, that means they change back and forth between the

centrifugal and the centripetal condition(positive spin and negative

spin). The vortices may also be observed during a cyclone in

atmosphere. In nature this is commonly the underlying cause of

pulsations observed in astrophysics for instance or with biological

clocks that determine most of the rhythms of biological life. For

this reason, we may call these pulsating energy vortices as

pulsons. Author could understand why patients with pitta vitiation, rashes,

severe migraines, vomits, nosebleeds come during some particular time of the

year, only after studying the bioenergy phenomena driven by movement of sun in

particular stars, sun-spot activity etc. February-March 2007 was the period when

so many got their M/C after a delay of 20 to 40 days! When Todd says that

Vaidyas need to study new situations, challanges to human health through

environment, it is this part which needs to be studied, which you may not find

in Sanskrit! The medicine for this sort of problems may not be found in herbs,

but in lifestyle and environment.

 

Vaidya, while trying to read the pulse, is trying to understand the

energy states of the body, and gets much more info about the body and

mind, depending on his own concentration and level of attainment. The

word pulson is derived from pulse, and modern doctors are also trying

to diagnose state of heart beats and circulation by studying the

pulse through ECG etc.

 

Patrick Flanagan observed the vortices in 'living', turbulently

moving water to oscillate periodically and rhythmically, at one stage

shrinking in diameter and extending in length and then contracting

again and enlarging in diameter (Towards a New Alchemy by N. Begich,

Earthpulse Press, Anchorage). These can be observed by anyone in water

flowing with high velocity. when flow changes the character from

laminar to turbulent, these vortices initiate the instabilities. They

are high energy density manifestations. The creation of vortices can

also be seen by blowing high speed air over a cyclinderical object,

attached to a spring. In Fluid mechanics they are known as Karman

vortices. Remember Kathrina cyclonic storm?

 

Depending on the frequency and energy density of the phenomenon, the

non-manifested part of a pulson with its characteristic pulsation

frequency is behind the electromagnetic oscillations of atoms or

crystals, the energy pulsations of stellar bodies, the oscillations

of the periphery of our sun, sunspot cycles and magnetic pole

reversals. As the internal clock found in living organisms, it

regulates the metabolism, sleep and wake cycles, heartbeat and

breathing.

 

Various studies have shown that we have three biorhythm cycles, which

start at the time of our birth. A 23-day cycle has been linked to our

biological body, a 28-day cycle to our emotional body connected to reproductive

hormonal secretion, and a 33-day

cycle to our mental body. It is believed that these cycles are the

result of the oscillation rates of the twin-pulsons of these respective bodies.

 

Hormonal disturbances are caused by stress. Occasional delay in

menstrual cycle start due to stress; similarly, synchonization of cycles of

women living under the same family roof gets explained by energy

driven clock. Why we loose sleep as a result of stress or loose stress when we

get good sleep may be

inferred by energy driven hormonal clock. On the other hand, why our magnetic

and

electric field is highest in sleep is also obvious. The energy state

is now slowly being accepted by science too, as this field can be

mapped by Krillian photography.

 

The origin of stress itself gets explained as pulson aberration. In

humans, biorhythm cycles are indicators of the individual times of

their different energy levels. Subjective time is our conscious

awareness of the rate of change. It is everyone's experience that if

we walk on a new road for the first time, the road will appear much

longer than when we walk repeatedly along the same road. This is due

to the much greater rate of sense information when we do something

new or for the first time. After repeated actions, mind wanders

elsewhere, as relaxed. The mind becomes bored and takes no interest,

causing relaxation when we chant a mantra repeatedly. For the same

reason time appears to slow down in dangerous situations or in

children as compared to the elderly. When time slows down, there is

relaxation.

 

Spiritual masters tell us that time, as we know it exists only in the

materialized universe. In the higher spiritual regions time as such

becomes meaningless as everything is `eternal now'. This means, for

the spirit there is no past or future. Since time ceases to exist

during deep meditation, stress also dissolves, stress being created

by rate of change different from our expectation.

 

If we follow the life style harmonious with the high and low tides of

these pulsating energies, we will live in zero stress lifestyle. No

cravings for carbs, indigestion, fatigue. Ever youthful and innocent

like kids.

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hello, dr bhate

thank you, the mail u sent is amaizing! i know some physics, it was necessary

for an exam in order to be admited in medicine university , so i understood all

u wrote.

 

when i wrote sringataka, i refered to a plant, trapa bispinosa, or water

chestnut which has many names including this one. i guess is not by hazard to

have almost the name of that marma.

 

i never did khechari mudra for 2 big reasons:

1. in my yoga school it is forbidden; if i do it and i'm cought, i can be

expelled. this rule become necassary (it was allowed and even taught more than

10 years ago, but i never got to learn it officialy) because we have the bad

habbit of not listening to our teachers, so we might do it in a wrong manner.

this is a dangerous exercise and a mistake can have seriouse effects. there r

some initiation and methods for selected people, not for groups, this is one of

them.

2. i was born with frenulum lingue (sublingual midline fold) going to much

towards the tip of the tongue, so i could not articulate properly, expecially

words containing " L " sound. my parents cut it alittle but not enough (someone

with " muzical ear " can realize i do not prounce perfectly " L " sound) so i have

not much mobility of tongue to fold it backwards. i know i can cut it, i red

many methods, like cutting 1 mm per weak and than add plants or honney + salt to

heal faster, but the first reason keeps me from doing this.

i'm also not really obedient and i'm superficial sometimes, so by not

corecting this anathomic impediment i keep myself from braking the rule in some

moment of too much egotic trust in myself. i did sometimes what i was told not

to do, and i suffered the effects (i wrote in a message, posted here 2-3 months

ago, how i woke up kundalini on pingala and what happened to me; fortunately

far from the worst possible).

anyway, u convinced me to do again urine therapy. and i will do jalandhara

bandha for soma.

thanks again