Guest guest Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 dear dr. bhate, the melatonin is of major interest to me, as i used to have big problems with sleeping and i still have sometimes bad quality sleep. a friend told me that if we go to bathroom to pee in morning and before colecting the urine only a ray of light touches our skin, there will not be any drop of active melatonin lef in the fluid. it's hard to belive this for some logical reasons. first i know the light will prevent the pineal gland (epiphysis cerebri) from producing its hormones, but will not inactivate the hormones existing in body (in blood or wherever). second, the urine is inside the urinary bladder and i don't thik the ray of light will affect the hormone through so many layers (skin, fat, pelvic bones and muscles, the walls of bladder). still he put a doubt in my mind, cause i didn't read any seriouse study on this particular aspect. will it be inactivated if sun rays will touch the fluid when i collect it? i trated myself from bloating (from morning to evening my abdomen was swelling so much, that people were thinking i'm 8 months pregnant) by using my urine to clean the nostrils in morning. also the pineal hormones (as u alredy mentioned) are helping in entering deep states of meditation. pineal gland is related to ajna / agya (the eye of shiva) , also to soma chakra (producing the nectar of immortality) . the texts describe indra, the ruller of gods and protector of spiritual discipols, as the embodiment of youth and strenght, maintaining them through drinking soma. he is the youngest and his skin is golden, shining like sun. he controls the weather and by ether (akasha ) he controls the manifestations of the other elements; by this he also controls the manifestations of doshas in universe. pls read beyond those symbols and understand what we can reach by using this therapy. i do not say that urine is soma. soma is a subtile fluid. but, as any sublile phenomena, this energy can get materialized in different manners. part of its " material " expressions are pineal hormones, which are eliminated through urine and we can recirculate into our body by this manner. this subtil fluid seems to be related to tarpaka kapha also. there are many studies on the pineal hormons, the receptors they act on and states of mind related to them. there is also a " samadhi tank " built to induce samadhi . it's a small bath tab covered, where u float in salted water (magnesium sulfat and not kitchen salt, natrium chlorine), in complete dark and isoleted from sounds. this way you enter deep relaxation and by not having any external stimuli, u enter state of pratiahara and so on..... they also count on pineal hormones produced in this conditions. i tried such a samadhy tank, but no samadhy. just that the tank was not so isolated, i could hear stepps and doors opening. still i got into real state of pratiahara, not being aware of any info from my senses, not even of my body weight against the chair, when i " tasted " sringataka (trapa bispinosa). i had just a state of " listening " inside. percienving my structure like a void space with " walls " which were listening the space inside, completly detached from anything, just enjoying this state. sringataka is sweet taste, rasayana, having spiritual effects (used in spiritual fasting). all this makes me think it might be another expression of soma. could it be? thank you ________________ For example, melatonin, present in significant amounts in urine, is a natural hormone that has already been proven to help regulate sleep. Muramyl dipeptide, another natural hormone found in urine, mirrors the calming action of serotonin. That is the reason, cow urine and self urine therapy is a spiritual energy enhancing therapy too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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