Virology and Ayurveda

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Recently I had a discussion with someone closely connected with

Ayurveda (The person was marketing head for an Ayurvedic medicines

company, but post- retirement, has strong faith in Allopathy and is

die hard critique of Ayurveda, for reasons best known to him)

He said that Ayurveda is not suitable for health in modern times and

the main reason given by him was, lack of any knowledge on Virology,

in Ayurveda. Says he, there was a dark period in history of Ayurveda

where for thousands of years, no new research was added to the body of

knowledge. Especially, when the mankind was shifting from agrarian/

rural to industrial/urban and therefore mass scale systems, Ayurveda

was almost in deep slumber. It had woken up now when, almost all the

high death rate diseases have their origins in viruses, which Ayurveda

does not know anything about.

Am a lay man, and honestly, am confused.

1) Does Ayurveda recognize that there are any diseases caused by viruses?

2) Does the imbalance or balance of Doshas affect viruses?

3) Does it have preventive/ management/ elimination treatment for

Viruses?

 

Statements in recent postings that ayurvedic framework can address any modern

diseases based on dosha concepts, it may be interesting to know how ayurveda can

tackle such states.

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hi

i'm sure there are people knowing better ayurvedical terms, so i will not enter

this field, but viruses are described in ayurved as external factors of diseases

(external =not conected to dosha). there are plants named krimigna for their

antiviral, antibiotic anti-fungus and antihelminthic properties.

there r also described the reasons why a person gets a viral disease and another

doesn't, the subtle causes (the mental wrong attitudes, mental ama that is a

subtile auric food for them), how a dhatu/ " tissue " becomes vulnerable to them,

the 3 levels of defence against them and so on.

there r remedies for all those stepps: to enhance auric protection, to make

dhatus not vulnerable, to remove their " subtile food " , to help the immune

system, and even plants and remedies having ativiral effects.

the difference is that ayurveda puts in same chapter viruses, bacteria and

worms, while the microbiology was divided in virusology, bacteriology and

parazitology.

there are modern researches on plants and anti-viral effects. one of the best is

neem. another example is katu rohini which works grate against

cito-megalo-virus. or bhringaraj known for effects against viruses and suporting

liver function, so good in hepatitis. or echinaceea, stimulating the t-cells and

this way helping the body in its fight against viruses. i'm sure that, if u pay

the effort of spending some time on net, u will find many lab results of tests

donne on plants or on patietes treated by ayurvedic manner.

1 or 2 months ago someone posted here his really touching story. he is a very

young man, he got hiv in hospital, if i remember corectly (he is virgin) and by

taking ayurvedic treatment he has very good test results and a good general

state. maybe u will look for his message.

hoping i woke up some trust in your heart for ayurveda,

cri

 

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1) Does Ayurveda recognize that there are any diseases caused by viruses?

2) Does the imbalance or balance of Doshas affect viruses?

3) Does it have preventive/ management/ elimination treatment for

Viruses?

[Guest guest]

Hi cri

 

That is an interesting area. The umpteen nos. of microorganism around us in the

environment and the fact that any of the friendly or neutral one can attack us

in a changed environment makes us vulnerable to their attack through out life.

The diseases and the vulnarability to the toxins produced by these organisms

when they are multiplied in the body is also unimaginable in number. They often

form new diseases in different era like HIV currently. They also be come

genetically changed and attack us in a later period as happens for influenca in

every 15 years, chickenpox in 50 years etc. So it is not sufficient for us to

have an antimicrobial vaccine or medicine to attend each of them or only when

they attack us. That is why vyadhikshamathwa become important (tolerance and

immunity to illnesses) . This has to be improved in individuals to prevent

viral/microbial illnesses

 

 

When we start practicing antiviral/antimicrobial treatments in ayurveda, we will

be surprised to learn that it is almost the same with the principles and

practice of mainly agadathanthra (toxicology) and then Bhoothathanthra. We can

find a lot of medicines like Vilwadi gulika, sanjeevani vati etc which has

antimicrobial / antitoxin activity.

 

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1) Does Ayurveda recognize that there are any diseases caused by viruses?

2) Does the imbalance or balance of Doshas affect viruses?

3) Does it have preventive/ management/ elimination treatment for

Viruses?

[Guest guest]

Your statements is a serious attack on ayurveda. Ayurveda has

withstood all such attacks in past and will do so in future too.

Damar tantra and ayurveda paid the attention to microbes much

earlier before Louis Pasteur.

 

Others have already written about diseases being caused by

external microbes invading the body through food, water, air etc. The

recognition by ayurveda that internal microbes (Krimi is general

term) growing when ama is present should be adequate to assume that

ayurveda has considered diseases originating in microbes.

That is the reason so much emphasis on eliminating ama through panch

karma. Ayurveda, not taking an antagonistic approach, removes cause

of ghrowth of microbes rather than killing.

 

More than that, the toxicity of many herbs and the microbes present

therein are removed by treating them with cow urine, cow milk etc

should be treated as an indication that ayurveda pays attention to

external invasion by microbes even through herbs. Ayurveda relies more on

living objects for deriving medicines or dosha balancing actions.

 

In todays time, maximum contribution to the type of diseases you have

in mind is paid by Vaidyas, who researched the use of cow products in

various ancient texts, devised suitable Panchgavya formulation using

cow urine, milk, ghee, curd and applied these to most chronic and

even terminal diseases. Global patent for use of cow urine distillate in this

fashion has been taken by Indian scientists. Since your question is related to

virology, author would include information on uopathy outside india too.

 

Medically, urine is termed " plasma ultrafiltrate. " It is a purified

derivative of the blood itself, made by the kidneys whose principal

function is regulation of all the elements and their concentrations

in the blood. Nutrient-filled blood passes through the liver where

toxins are removed to be excreted as solid waste. Eventually, this

purified blood undergoes a more extensive filtering process in the

kidneys, where excess components not usable at that time by the body

are collected in the form of the sterile, watery solution that is

urine.

 

Far from being harmful, urine contains known healing agents. Clinical

studies have proven that the thousands of critical body chemicals and

nutrients that end up in urine reflect the individual body's

functions. When re-utilized, these chemicals and nutrients act as

natural vaccines, antibacterial, antiviral and anticarcinogenic

agents as well as hormone balancers and allergy relievers.

 

For example, melatonin, present in significant amounts in urine, is a

natural hormone that has already been proven to help regulate sleep.

Muramyl dipeptide, another natural hormone found in urine, mirrors

the calming action of serotonin. That is the reason, cow urine and self urine

therapy is a spiritual energy enhancing therapy too! If wishing to enhance

fertility, one

could drink urine high in a specific hormonal content. An example is

the panchgavya medicine Nari Sanjivani, to

balance the problems of women in peri menopause or PCOS. With the

help of Goushala at Akola, author is trying to make some formulations

to help tennagers to peri-meno group of women suffering from hormonal

imbalances and especially infertility. Same practice is going on in

Serono Laboratories in Italy. The labs use the urine of post-

menopausal nuns to prepare the pharmaceutical extract Pergonal, in

order to stimulate fertility.

 

An important component of urine is urea, a commonly recognized

antibacterial, antifungal, and antiviral agent. The presence of urea

in the urine results from the body's chemical balancing of the sodium

chloride and water ratio. When used on a wound, urea causes an

osmotic imbalance inside bacteria and fungi that utlimately kills

them. Due to its effectiveness, urea is used in many topical

ointments and creams sold pharmaceutically, both prescription and

OTC. Urea is found in a broad range of medicines used to treat

inflammation and is a main ingredient in Herpigon, a medicine used to

treat herpes infections. Additionally, urine can smooth and

moisturize the skin. Face creams or wrinkle removers most likely

contain urea or a derivative of it. According to John Armstrong's

1971 book, The Water of Life, expensive and elegant European facial

soaps often contain human, cow or pig urine.

 

Urine therapy is also being used to treat cancer patients. " The

Italian surgeon Stanislau R. Burzynski, separated anti-neoplastin

from human urine and showed remarkale results in the treatment of

cancer, " said B.V. Khare, M.D., a physician from Mumbai, India who

advocates urine therapy to his patients. He is a radical doctor in

service of humanity. This author has posted many posts on Panchgavya

therapy for cancer earlier in the archives. Any wonder why many yogis

like Baba Ramdev, Aasarambapu, and notabley all oratories who teach

Shreemad Bhagwat in a week long program, are strong advocates of

Panchgavya therapy.

 

Those who cant afford cow therapy too, for them self urine therapy is

best. Cancer cells release various antigens, some of which appear in

the urine. Auto-urotherapy is suggested as a new treatment modality

for cancer patients because it provides the intestinal lymphatic

system with the many tumor antigens against which antibodies may be

produced. These antibodies may infiltrate the blood stream and attack

the tumor and its cells. One note of caution. auto-urine theray

requires regulated diet consisting of green juices, fruits etc

Secondly, it is best to try uropathy after detoxifying liver, so that

herxheimer reaction (healing crisis) can be brought to a minimum.

 

Advocates claim that urine is an invaluable source of nourishment and

healing that has been too controversial or not financially rewarding

enough for it to be encouraged as a potent medicine. However, Dr.

Khare insists that " doctors who were under my treatment showed no

signs of aging and insisted that urine therapy should be invited to

the general public. "

 

It is noteworthy that uropathy comes to us from Damar Tantra, even

much before ayurvedic texts were written. It is 98% practice and 2%

theory, like any other tantric kriyas. Since these medicines are

quite potent, require experience and insight, not avaialable " in

depth " in frequently referred texts. One must develop the required

understanding through reading texts on urine therapy, experiences etc.

 

The organic farming is made possible only because of cow urine and

cow dung. Both organic farming movement and panchgaya movement is

spreading to south india, Karanata and Andhra started recently. If

whole of India adopts organic farming, there will not remain any need

for any anti-bacterial, anti-viral drugs, since organic food builds immunity.

Organic farming uses pesticides also made from

cow products and herbs. Author used to feel irritation in the nasal passages

when Baygon was spread soewhere, so he used one month old cow

urine to drive away cockroaches. After use(without killing a single cockroach!),

he did not find

any cockroach in the kitchen upto 3 months.

 

 

there was a dark period in history of Ayurveda.

where for thousands of years, no new research was added to the body

of

knowledge. Especially, when the mankind was shifting from agrarian/

rural to industrial/urban and therefore mass scale systems, Ayurveda

was almost in deep slumber.

1) Does Ayurveda recognize that there are any diseases caused by

viruses?

2) Does the imbalance or balance of Doshas affect viruses?

3) Does it have preventive/ management/ elimination treatment for

Viruses?

[Guest guest]

hello, anand

i was told about an experiment but i never got to read the study, so it's

" second hand " iformation (should i say second ear?). they took 2 samples of

cells from same source, put them through sterilisation methods, and than,

keeping them in steril environment, they applied on one of them an disturbed

frequency wave (i forgot if sound or light, i think sound but i'm not sure).

this sample developed a virus (again i forgot which) while the " witness " sample

didn't. so the virus was just materialized under the influence of that source

of disturbed energy, by the law of rezonance.

i'm sory i'm not more precise, but i hope those who become interested on this

will search the net and find the original study. pls, if someone finds it, send

the link to us too

thank you

 

 

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That is an interesting area. The umpteen nos. of microorganism around us in the

environment and the fact that any of the friendly or neutral one can attack us

in a changed environment makes us vulnerable to their attack through out life.