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Dear

I am glad that we are going into the depths of Ayurvedic approach.

 

Re : Low carb diet in daibetes

I thought I put forth this point in my earlier mail where I said that in

Ayurveda whatever food items are recommended have moderate amounts of

carbohydrates as well as proteins. This diet includes more of cereals, pulses as

well as vegetables. Food items strictly to be avoided are all meats excluding

Jaangala variety (Animals from dry,arid regions), milks of all animals mentioned

in Ayurveda(eight in numbers), newer cereals ( those not stored for at least a

period of six months to one year), jaggery and its derivatives(sugars,

sweets,etc). Incidentally these foods are themselves also enumerated as

causative factors. The specific food items mentioned are pulses like green gram

and others, bitter vegetables,, old shali rice, atasi (linseed) oil, mustard

oil, shashtik rice, trunadhaanya (cereals of lower grade like millets etc),

barley and honey. For those who are meat-eaters, soups of flesh of vishkira and

pratood variety of birds may be useful. The reference is Charaka Samhita

Chikitsa chapter 6 shloka 19, 20, 21.I feel that collaborating this data on

carbohydrate-protein-fat grid will give you a fair idea of Ayurvedic diet

towards patients of Prameha in general which also includes Madhumeha (diabetes

mellitus)

 

Re : Factors affecting health and disease in modern perspective of atmospteric

pollution and chemical contaminants

Ayurveda broadly classifies causes of diseases in three parts - 1)

Asaatmendriyaarth Sanyoga ie excess of strain and stress to sensory and motor

organs, 2) Pradnyaaparaadh ie doing mistakes knowingly and 3) Parinaam ie

atmospheric or environmental effects. The third portion of environmental

vitiation is explained in more detail in Janapadodhvansa issue. Here bad effects

on living beings due to vitiated / polluted land, water, air and time are

enlisted. This treatise is in Charaka Samhita Vimaan Sthana chapter 3.

 

Re : Effects of urban life, fast food and lack of exercise

The ill-effects of urban life with its specific effects on each dhatu and the

health as whole is discussed in Rasayana issue in Charaka Samhita Chikitsa

Sthana chapter 1part 2 shloka 3. I am not explaining all of that matter as it

will consume a lot of space. It can be a topic of seperate discussion.

 

Re : Subtle shifts in disease manifest and efficacy of various treatments

Disease manifestations depend on dooshya (bodily elements like rasa,rakta etc),

desha (land/country), bala (strength/ immunity), kala(time), agni, prakruti,

age, mental strenth and food compatabilities. As the food patterns have

changed, the soil-water-air axis is getting more and more polluted, there is

bound to be changes in manifest, but they will be subtle and not gross. That

means the Ayurvedic classification stays pretty constant. Efficacy of herbs will

always be proportional to the land they are cultivated in and the host response

of human body. But the basic gunas (attributes) and karmas (therapeutic effects)

are the same till today. Ginger has not shifted to the properties of turmeric or

turmeric shifted to garlic. The properties of all the herbs mentioned are still

the same.

 

Re ; Prameha progression

Prameha is a broad gruop of twenty syndromes related with polyuria and haziness

in urine as their prime symptoms.The prodromal symptoms are described in detail.

These same prodromal symptoms stay to become main symptoms. According to dictums

in Sutra Sthana, if the prodromal symptoms continue then the disease becomes

more difficult to treat or becomes a life time companion. There are known as

Upadravas (complications) of Pramehas. Vataja Pramehas eventually tranform into

Madhumeha. Even Madhumeha has Beeja dosha (heredity) as one of its causative

factors. The main body factors involved are Mamsa (musle) and Meda (fats)

besides other seven constituents. You can read more detais about this in Charaka

Samhita Chikitsa Sthana chapter 6. You will find many similarities with modern

concepts of diabetes.

And if you are saying of Ayurvedic doctors having truncal obesity, each one is

entitled to one's own health. It would be like saying that eye specialists

should never need spects or all cardiologists should have a very strong and

healthy heart. Are we morally authorised to comment on this?

 

Re : Global aspects of Ayurveda, food, medicinal herbs and rutucharya.

Ayurveda has covered areas from Egypt, Africa in west to China and far east

according to references available in texts. Ayurveda has always been liberal in

giving varied choices in food and medicine according to the availability in the

given desha (land / country).This becomes evident from Charaka Samhita Sutra

Sthana chapter 4 shloka 20 (regarding herbs) and chapter 27 shloka 329 & 330

(regarding food items).

There are six rutus (seasons) described in Rutucharya. There are specific

environmental signatures given and a specific food protocol is advised to avoid

from falling ill. Ayurveda has never insisted that all 6 seasons should occur in

all parts of the world. The seasonal variations were the different exhibits to

present the food protocol. If you don't have Sharad in Canada, you need not

follow Sharad protocol. If you have prolonged Shishir, you may follow that

protocol.This is called as Oka-saatmya (homologaton). The reference is Charaka

Samhita Sutra Sthana chapter 6 shloka 49 & 50.

 

Re : Vegeterianism and Non-vegeterianism

That must be your personal experience. The view is basically Brahmanical and not

Indian to be frank. And Ayurveda has no prejudice over meat eating. Not only in

health, but Ayurveda has also advocated meats in certain diseases, Prameha being

one of those described above.

 

I may have left out some points inadvertantly, we can discuss them one by one

thread-bare. I would definitely like to take a walk in the forests of Canada

along with you. In the same breath, I would invite you to India to spend some

days with me to grasp the total grandeur and splendour of Ayurveda along with

all its nuances and details.

I have given all the references so that all the concerned will understand the

real Ayurveda and remove their personal mis-conceptions. You can cross-check

them with yor Nepali counterpart.

I always believed in dancing over the issue and not around it.

Always at the service of Ayurveda and mankind

 

DR.D.B.Muzumdar

M.D.Ayurvedic Medicine (INDIA)

< dahpc >

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i was hoping to also receive your comments with regard to my point

about the low carb approach in diabetes, but for now will content

myself to discussing the following...

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