Kefir

[Guest guest]

Jean, I think you should check out the following site and join the kefir

group - Dominic will put you right in no time at all - Kefir is made with raw

milk, soy milk, goats milk or regular milk - whatever you choose. I do not

think that it will only do you good and not cause you 'abnormal brain

behaviour' I am sure. Anyway, find out a lot more from the expert.

 

http://www.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html

 

Marianne

 

 

> I'm so confused! I have been reading up on kefir, and was considering

> adding this to my diet. That is until I read about how both lactic acid,

> acetic acid (necessary to make cholesterol) are in this food. Now I don't

> know what to do as I've just seen where high amounts of lactic acid promote

>

> abnormal brain behavior!

>

> A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing...how true, especially when

> it involves nutrition. Does anyone here have personal experience with

> kefir, or know enough to comment about this?

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

> Does anyone here have personal experience with

> > kefir, or know enough to comment about this?

 

I'm not well versed in the scientific aspects of kefir but I do have

experience with making and consuming it. I've been using my own kefir for

over two years which includes three winters. Prior to consuming kefir I

treated myself every fall and winter with bright light therapy to keep from

being depressed and lethargic (Seasonal Affective Disorder). I no longer use

my light box and it just has to have something to do with my diet. I'm

happy, energetic and need the same six hours of sleep a night year around

now. So if it does have something to do with brain activity it certainly has

been a positive experience for me. Over this same time period I have also

gradually improved the quality of both the produce and meats that I buy until

I now only buy kitty litter, detergent and paper goods at the conventional

grocery store.

 

My HDL cholesterol improved while my over all cholesterol remain about the

same.

 

I had pretty much gotten a long standing Candida problem into a relatively

controlled state through abstaining from sugar and sugar related products

like corn sweetners but I always felt I was on the edge of returning to the

struggle and also spent a lot of money swallowing lots of high priced

probiotics on a daily basis. Kefir does a much better job at keeping me

feeling normal and healthy and you have to eat any way.

 

Adding kefir to my diet was a giant step in my continuing journey towards

optimum health.

 

Margaret

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

> I make my own kefir.

> </

Is kefir a drink or is it more like yogurt? Patty

[Guest guest]

It is like yogurt.

[Guest guest]

Doc--you say it is a drink, not spoonable like yogurt? just wondering. Patty

 

> This gives you the

> richest kefir (with the intestinal flora) that you could possibly wish

> for. This is just as good as the cabbage formula. Add a touch of

> organic raw honey or organic maple syrup and you have a drink that

> tastes awesome. Add a little blended fresh fruit and the possibilities

[Guest guest]

I make mine with organic raw milk without the cooking. Keeps the enzymes that way ;o) Another way of starting it, is by buying a small bottle of kefir and use that as your starter. If you keep making it (a couple of times a week), that one bottle of kefir you buy will last for ever as it perpetuates. I also throw in the powder from a capsule of Acidophilus which has the Bifidus in it as well. This gives you the richest kefir (with the intestinal flora) that you could possibly wish for. This is just as good as the cabbage formula. Add a touch of organic raw honey or organic maple syrup and you have a drink that tastes awesome. Add a little blended fresh fruit and the possibilities are endless ;o) I've never run into a kid yet, who'll turn it down.

 

You can actually start it with plain yogurt if you wish, but the quality isn't as good.

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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jasmina_alisic

herbal remedies

Thursday, July 18, 2002 1:04 PM

[herbal remedies] Kefir

I make my own kefir. You can buy in oriental food stores in milk section. But you can buy Kefir starter and do your own. It is very easy. I like to boil milk first and let it cool to around 80 degrees.Put Kefir starter ( I buy on line) and let it stay on the warm place over night. Next morning put in clean glass bottles and refrigerate. It is great to take on hot summer day.

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

To answer the question, kefir should be more like a

drink than spoonable yogurt. When you make it at home

it sometimes tastes different than the kefir you can

buy at the natural foods stores (under the brand name

Helios or Lifeway) - but that's ok! Sometimes it even

gets a little *fizzy* - from carbonation I suppose.

For those who have cow's milk sensitivity, you can

also make kefir from sheep or goat milk.

 

Here's a great web resource where you can learn all

about kefir and order the cultures...

http://www.kefir.net/

 

In good health,

Erica

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Kathy,

 

Yes, just go to the group's home page (link at bottom of each

message).

 

On the home page there is a links category in the left hand side of

page.

 

Ckick on links and on our links page you will find an active link to

Dom's kefir site as well as many more links to read about alternative

health.

 

Frank

 

 

, inghamseeker@j...

wrote:

>

> Does anyone have the link for Dom's Kefir site? I need a recipe

for homemade Kefir.

>

> Thanks. Kathy

[Guest guest]

How do I find your links page?

 

 

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" Frank " <califpacific

<alternative_medicine_forum >

Sunday, May 02, 2004 12:07 PM

Kefir

 

 

Kefir has been around for centuries. It is very easy to make. Don't buy the

product that Mercola is pushing here. Real kefir using kefir grains is

available from Dom " s kefir group. The link is on our links page. At Dom's

kefir group you can learn all about kefir and it's benefits. Frank

[Guest guest]

Linda if you will look at the bottom of every message there will be

the address of the home page for the group. I think it says list or

archives.

 

Frank

 

, Linda Meeh

<lindameeh@b...> wrote:

> How do I find your links page?

>

>

> -

> " Frank " <califpacific>

> <alternative_medicine_forum >

> Sunday, May 02, 2004 12:07 PM

> Kefir

>

>

> Kefir has been around for centuries. It is very easy to make. Don't

buy the

> product that Mercola is pushing here. Real kefir using kefir grains

is

> available from Dom " s kefir group. The link is on our links page. At

Dom's

> kefir group you can learn all about kefir and it's benefits. Frank

[Guest guest]

try typing kefir in search engine, I did find a starter kit that way the other day, but prefer to buy it already made as I'm not sure I could start my on kefir

 

Patrick

 

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lindylou50can

Thursday, November 18, 2004 9:29 AM

Kefir

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[Guest guest]

You can find kefir grains here:

 

http://66.46.11.99/clarkson/Show/Clarkson/kefir/default.asp

 

Ulrike

 

West Wales Ferret WelfareE-mail: ulrikehttp://www.ferretlove.co.ukLast update 23/10/04

 

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lindylou50can

11/18/04 14:33:11

 

Kefir

 

 

Does anyone in the group know where to order Kekir grains as a

starter?

Linda

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I think drmercola.com if I have the address correct.

 

Debralindylou50can <cybercircle wrote:

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It is actually www.mercola.com

 

ElizabethDebra Cloinger <dcloinger wrote:

 

I think drmercola.com if I have the address correct.

 

Debralindylou50can <cybercircle wrote:

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I'm sure I read a few times that ready made kefir is nowhere near as good as the one you make yourself. Making kefir is so easy, takes me less than 5 minutes.

 

Ulrike

 

West Wales Ferret WelfareE-mail: ulrikehttp://www.ferretlove.co.ukLast update 23/10/04

 

 

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try typing kefir in search engine, I did find a starter kit that way the other day, but prefer to buy it already made as I'm not sure I could start my on kefir

 

Patrick

[Guest guest]

Thanks Elia for bringing kefir to our attention.

 

My health has recently been revolutionized by drinking kombucha tea. I have been brewing it myself for a bit over a dollar a gallon and can't believe how good it is making me feel.

Do a search on kombucha.

 

All best,

TimElia Regina <erspreviato wrote:

Hi folks,Have you ever heard about kefir???I've been having these for a time and loved it.There's a site where everybody cna get some information on this probiotic...Elia Reginahttp://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html#obtaining-kefir-grains

[Guest guest]

Dear Anna,

 

How can kefir be made out of water? The culture

(bacteria etc.) need some nutrient to grow. Water is

necessary but not sufficient, in my opinion. If you or

another member can throw more light on this, I will be

grateful.

 

Swamy

 

--- aljuarez wrote:

 

> No, kefir is not incense, it's a cultured milk

> product, sort of like

> yogurt... though I hear you can make it from water,

> too.

>

> - anna

 

 

in search of truth and with prayers to Govinda to help reach that goal in this

life itself, and with best wishes to you that your goals may be reached,

 

yours sincerely,

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I've never tried it. However, they have talked about it on the kefir making

...

 

- Anna

 

Swarna Venkateswara Swamy writes:

 

> Dear Anna,

>

> How can kefir be made out of water? The culture

> (bacteria etc.) need some nutrient to grow. Water is

> necessary but not sufficient, in my opinion. If you or

> another member can throw more light on this, I will be

> grateful.

>

> Swamy

>

> --- aljuarez wrote:

>

>> No, kefir is not incense, it's a cultured milk

>> product, sort of like

>> yogurt... though I hear you can make it from water,

>> too.

>>

>> - anna

>

>

> in search of truth and with prayers to Govinda to help reach that goal in

this life itself, and with best wishes to you that your goals may be reached,

>

> yours sincerely,

>

>

>

> __

> Start your day with - make it your home page

> http://www./r/hs

 

[Guest guest]

--The kefir that is made from water is a different strain than milk

kefir. The water kefir uses the sugar of dried fruit as a nutrient.

Yaphey

 

- In holistic-health , aljuarez@z... wrote:

> I've never tried it. However, they have talked about it on the

kefir making

> ...

>

> - Anna

>

> Swarna Venkateswara Swamy writes:

>

> > Dear Anna,

> >

> > How can kefir be made out of water? The culture

> > (bacteria etc.) need some nutrient to grow. Water is

> > necessary but not sufficient, in my opinion. If you or

> > another member can throw more light on this, I will be

> > grateful.

> >

> > Swamy

> >

> > --- aljuarez@z... wrote:

> >

> >> No, kefir is not incense, it's a cultured milk

> >> product, sort of like

> >> yogurt... though I hear you can make it from water,

> >> too.

> >>

> >> - anna

> >

> >

> > in search of truth and with prayers to Govinda to help reach

that goal in this life itself, and with best wishes to you that your

goals may be reached,

> >

> > yours sincerely,

> >

> >

> >

> > __

> > Start your day with - make it your home page

> > http://www./r/hs

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the clarification.

 

Swamy

 

holistic-health , " Yaphey " <welovekefir> wrote:

> --The kefir that is made from water is a different strain than milk

> kefir. The water kefir uses the sugar of dried fruit as a nutrient.

> Yaphey

>

> - In holistic-health , aljuarez@z... wrote:

> > I've never tried it. However, they have talked about it on the

> kefir making

> > ...

> >

> > - Anna

[Guest guest]

-Hello everyone!

Just riniging in to let everyone know that I have a wealth of extra

scoby(Symbiotic Culture Of Bacteria and Yeasts) which is the starter

for making kombucha tea.

For those who don't know, kombucha tea is a fermented drink that you

make with a starter like sour dough bread or yogurt, and each time

you make a new brew it produces a new scoby.

I have about 15 new scoby and I just hate to throw them out when I

could share them.

I DO NOT charge for the scoby, I do ask you to cover the S & H on it.

I ship it Priority Mail with instructions. You will have it in a

couple of days and can get started on tea making right away. You

will have new " baby " scoby in as little as 1 week. You will be able

to share scoby with family and friends after a few weeks. If you

want to get one sent to you, just email me at welovekefir

and give me the address that you want it shipped to.

I have water kefir grains also, if you may be interested in those. I

have a few milk kefir grains, too. I am literally being over-run

with scoby so if you want them please email soon.

Thanks for listening to me ramble on.

Here is a link to some info on kombucha.

 

http://w3.trib.com/~kombu/FAQ/index.shtml

http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/Makekefir.html#Kefir-d-acqua

These are not my sites but they have a good FAQ area so you can look

into it more if you need to.

Y

-- In holistic-health , " S.V.Swamy "

<truthseeker123x> wrote:

> Thank you for the clarification.

>

> Swamy

>

> holistic-health , " Yaphey " <welovekefir>

wrote:

> > --The kefir that is made from water is a different strain than

milk

> > kefir. The water kefir uses the sugar of dried fruit as a

nutrient.

> > Yaphey

> >

> > - In holistic-health , aljuarez@z... wrote:

> > > I've never tried it. However, they have talked about it on the

> > kefir making

> > > ...

> > >

> > > - Anna

[Guest guest]

Oh, darn, stripped out your address except for the beginning

" welovekefir@ " but I'd like to give a shot at making kefir, milk or water

based.

 

Yaphey writes:

 

> to share scoby with family and friends after a few weeks. If you

> want to get one sent to you, just email me at welovekefir

> and give me the address that you want it shipped to.

> I have water kefir grains also, if you may be interested in those. I

> have a few milk kefir grains, too. I am literally being over-run

> with scoby so if you want them please email soon.

> Thanks for listening to me ramble on.

> Here is a link to some info on kombucha.

>

> http://w3.trib.com/~kombu/FAQ/index.

[Guest guest]

Hi Yaphey,

 

I contacted you the last time you made this offer. The price you quoted

me was $10 each (can't remember if that was in addition to shipping or

not), but it definitely was surprising as you'd stated that you didn't

charge for them.

 

I'm not trying to stir up trouble, just to point out that one person's

not charging is another person's charging.

 

-Raine

 

Yaphey wrote:

<snip>

I DO NOT charge for the scoby, I do ask you to cover the S & H on it.

I ship it Priority Mail with instructions. You will have it in a

couple of days and can get started on tea making right away.

<snip>

[Guest guest]

Cee, there is a Kefir group on . Join up and ask for someone to send you some grains to get you started. Many people will do it for just postage, or for free. I'd send you some, but it'll take a couple weeks for me to culture enough, and you may not want to wait that long to get started. I Blend up my extra grains in the blender with my smoothie when I accumulate too many.

 

I've never tried the cheeses, at least not yet. Plus, if you really get into it, you can water culture kefir, too, and do lots of other things.

 

Make sure you use whole organic milk, or raw if you can get ahold of it. The grains don't grow well in skim milk.

 

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 1/1/2007 7:38:29 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, cbrowne writes:

 

Cyndi...I have a new obsession, LOL! I have long loved yogurt but the lazy part of me does not want to deal with temperature and timing and all that, so kefir sounds PERFECT. (Sorry Ellen...not going to vie for your homesteading crown. I am LAZY, LOL!) I spent almost 3 hours reading everything I could on kefir production, recipes, etc. last night, and the more I read, the more I felt it was serendipity! More probiotics plus super simple production? That makes it a no-brainer for me. I can have a freshly made kefir and fruit smoothie everyday and never run out or have too much. I also love the idea of being able to make such simple recipes such as cottage cheese, bleu cheese and brie style cheeses out of the kefir...something not easily done with yogurt.

 

Thank you so much for turning me on to this stuff...I can't WAIT to get started!!! <big smiles>

 

--Cee--

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Cyndi...I have a new obsession, LOL! I have long loved yogurt but the lazy part of me does not want to deal with temperature and timing and all that, so kefir sounds PERFECT. (Sorry Ellen...not going to vie for your homesteading crown. I am LAZY, LOL!) I spent almost 3 hours reading everything I could on kefir production, recipes, etc. last night, and the more I read, the more I felt it was serendipity! More probiotics plus super simple production? That makes it a no-brainer for me. I can have a freshly made kefir and fruit smoothie everyday and never run out or have too much. I also love the idea of being able to make such simple recipes such as cottage cheese, bleu cheese and brie style cheeses out of the kefir...something not easily done with yogurt.

 

Thank you so much for turning me on to this stuff...I can't WAIT to get started!!! <big smiles>

 

--Cee--

 

 

 

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cyndikrall

RealSimple

Sunday, December 31, 2006 10:11 PM

[RealSimple] Kefir

 

 

 

 

Cee, Kefir is a cultured milk product, similar to yogurt. You don't have to heat it, however, you simply plop the grains in a glass, add fresh milk, and stick in aside on the counter to ferment. After 24 hours, you strain it, add the grains to fresh milk, and drink the results. I blend mine up with some fresh fruit, honey, flax seed oil, whatever. Yogurt has around 9 probiotic components. Kefir has more like 30. It tastes kind of like a cross between yogurt and sour dough starter. Very tart, but I've gotten used to it.

 

Here is a good site for more info, if you're curious:

 

http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html

 

Cyndi

 

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