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Hello Laura...I would question her on fevers or night

sweating, quality of pain, bowel movements, etc...

Also pressure around the perineum would lead me to

further investigate the diagnoses of spleen qi

sinking. It is difficult to transpose a western

diagnoses into TCM differentiation without an

interview. Have faith in the tradition of your

art...TCM is pattern-oriented and individualized - let

the symptoms/pattern lead you to appropriate

treatment. Also, the idea that the inflammation is

not viral...what really does that mean? It could be a

viral assault that has yet to be defined by western

lab technique, an allergy, bacteria, auto-immune...all

of that is intriguing to investigate, but as

practitioners of chinese medicine, that is not our

forte. Remember also that chronic illness tends to

lead to deficiency of kidney/liver. Last

thought...what imbalances in her body accomadate the

recurrent symptoms? In other words, is this primarily

a case of deficiency or excess, or both and what would

be the best plan to restore health? Let me know how

it goes! Lori Scott, L.Ac.

--- Lauren Fortuna <llbeandip wrote:

> Hello,

>

> I have a patient coming to me with Interstitial

> Cystitis, which she was

> diagnosed with 10 years ago. " Interstitial cystitis,

> painful bladder

> syndrome and frequency-urgency-dysuria syndrome, are

> used

> interchangeably to describe urinary frequency,

> urgency and/or feelings

> of pain or pressure around the bladder, pelvis and

> perineum. IC patients

> usually have additional findings of small

> hemorrhages (called

> glomerulations) or ulcers within the bladder. In

> addition, patients may

> have a decreased bladder capacity and painful sexual

> intercourse. Women

> may flare during their menstrual cycle. Men may have

> scrotal or penis

> pain (9). "

> IC webpage.

>

> I have not yet met with her to see what her pulses

> and tongue are. But I

> am interested in suggestions.

> The bladder/kidney meridians are not usually used

> for organ problems.

> The kidney meridian can be considered for the

> frequency and urgent

> urination aspects of IC, but as for the pressure,

> pain on palpation, and

> burning urine- where else would you look?

> Thinking out loud here- there is the idea that

> issues that affect the

> heart (stress, anxiety, etc...=heat) and the heart

> transfers this heat

> to its pair- Small Intestine, which in turn drains

> the heat through the

> Bladder.

> That is one idea.

> How do you approach an almost constant inflammation

> that is not

> viral/bacterial?

>

> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Lauren

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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according chinese medical theoy of 'ling zheng " to treat.

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In a message dated 4/10/2006 10:49:37 AM Eastern Standard Time,

purekarm writes:

 

Hi guys, A patient with interstitial cystitis was referred to me and

will be coming to see me this tuesday for acupuncture and chinese

herbs. I have not been able to see the patient yet so I have not been

able to examine and diagnos; I was just wondering if any of you had

any experiences with treating this disrder.

Thanks-

Sharon

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I received an offlist post from someone thinking that IC is a bladder

infection. I thought I'd post this for any others who might think the

same.

 

Interstitial Cystitis is NOT a bladder infection. It often has

stress/emotional and even can have dietary causes. There may be

inflammation/DampHeat involved....but not always....depends on patient

not the IC.

 

It is advisable when presented with a Western Medical Term to know the

definition.

 

" The term IC / PBS includes all cases of urinary pain that can't be

attributed to other causes, such as infection or urinary stones. "

 

" Some of the symptoms of IC / PBS resemble those of bacterial

infection, but medical tests reveal no organisms in the urine of

patients with IC / PBS. Furthermore, patients with IC / PBS do not

respond to antibiotic therapy. "

 

" In recent years, researchers have isolated a substance found almost

exclusively in the urine of people with interstitial cystitis. They

have named the substance antiproliferative factor, or APF, because it

appears to block the normal growth of the cells that line the inside

wall of the bladder. "

 

entire worthy read at:

http://kidney.niddk.nih.gov/kudiseases/pubs/interstitialcystitis/

 

 

Kit

 

acupuncture , " kitcurtin " <kitcurtin wrote:

>

> Look for a Heart/Shen relationship. I have had it and treated it.

>

> Kit

>

> acupuncture , drjudyhou@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > according chinese medical theoy of 'ling zheng " to treat.

> > judy

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 4/10/2006 10:49:37 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> > purekarm@ writes:

> >

> > Hi guys, A patient with interstitial cystitis was referred to me and

> > will be coming to see me this tuesday for acupuncture and chinese

> > herbs. I have not been able to see the patient yet so I have not

been

> > able to examine and diagnos; I was just wondering if any of you had

> > any experiences with treating this disrder.

> > Thanks-

> > Sharon

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Just wanted to let you know that I am an Interstial Cystitis patient. I've

had it since 1993. I have begun acupuncture treatments recently and the

treatment does bring my pain level down. Unfortunately for me, pain is my

major

symptom.

Good luck in treating your IC patient. I hope that he or she responds to it

the way I do. Pain dropped at least 2 numbers.

Peace,

Lori

 

" I don't care anymore, this is my life. Go ahead with your own life and

leave me alone "

Billy Joel

 

 

 

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I have seen three cases of IC and all of them were women and all had

been sexually abused as a child.

One woman, in her sixties, had never had an orgasm-even though she was

married- and later revealed to me that her Father had molested her at a

young age. This disease clearly has a strong emotional pull,

I recommend the AMH.

Sat Nam,

Aurore ND

www.beyondnaturalmedicine.com

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