Awareness was Modernization was Acne

[Guest guest]

Only when writing a thesis on dementia was I hit with an understanding of the

emotional connection to disease states - as I saw that Aconite, which is used to

treat fear states and shock, is also used to treat many of the first signs of

disease. So although we can name a disease - one of man's roles in life is to

name things, we can treat precursors to disease using homeopathy, without

naming them or knowing what they might become - just as I'm sure you can with

Ayurveda. When we leave it too late then we can use allopathic diagnosis - but

just as you can refill your engine with oil and prevent disaster you need a

mechanic to repair the engine if you neglect this simple first step. How often

have you heard an allopathic doctor say we will have to wait and see what this

develops into? A disease state is recognisable and can be " named " and therefore

" treated " but for the allopath " pre-diagnosis " - is " pre-treatment " - but not

so for the Ayurvdic practitioner or the homeopath - there is little subtlety in

Allopathy - of course it has its uses - millions use it - but for those for whom

life is a subtle experience there are other modalities. These other modalities

are not connected to emotionalism, they are connected to awareness.

 

As a nurse working within the framework of mainstream medicine I am constantly

confronted by mainstream's lack of awareness.

 

I am very grateful to any practitioner who maintains awareness throughout his

treatment of patient beings before him without needing the justification of

naming a patient's state.

 

Jane

 

muzumdar

I wish that emotionalism played a negligible role and practicality be more

focussed on.

 

Real test of vaidya as you idealise is actually not the stand taken in any

authentic Ayurvedic scriptures. This is the expectation of patient due to the

hype created by mediaval vaidyas for their own selfish motto. According to

Ayurvedic Texts, One who can save the life of patient, is alert and

compassionate to patients distress/pain/grief and understands the terminal

condition of diseases is considered to be a real vaidya.

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[Guest guest]

Dear Jane,

You are absolutely correct when you point out the importance of pre-diagnosis.

Every major disease in Ayurveda has been allocated with such pre-clinical

incipient signs and symptoms.

They are called POORVA-RUPA ie these signs and symptoms precede the main

exhibition of disease complex. They are felt by the patient and by the doctor

too, if the patient comes in the early stages.

But, but... what I wanted to emphasise is that in the age of evidence-basd

medicine approach, such fine sensivities cannot be accepted as actual facts, as

they are not comfirmed by third-party investigations.

Hence,even though awareness prevails in a Ayurvedic physician, he is bound to

act by the rules and regulations of current age, which is definitely a

limitation.

There are many instances when we doubt that the patient may develop diabetes

(Prameha), but his blood sugar levels are normal at that instance. If we track

him, he eventually gets diabetes after maybe 5 or 6 years, but you cannot treat

him at the earlier incipient stage, as he is resistant to the idea and may

create mis-understanding about the physician and / or sue him for wrong

treatment. You get the point?

 

Dr.D.B.Muzumdar

M.D.Ayu-Med

< dahpc >

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Jane MacRoss

<snip> we can treat precursors to disease using homeopathy, without naming them

or knowing what they might become - just as I'm sure you can with Ayurveda. When

we leave it too late then we can use allopathic diagnosis - but just as you can

refill your engine with oil and prevent disaster you need a mechanic to repair

the engine if you neglect this simple first step. <snip>

[Guest guest]

The difference between subtlety, awareness, sensitivity and modern medicine is a

disaster. Putting it succinctly. That my son talks of homeopathetic but would

come to me when all else fails tells me that although I may be burned many times

as a witch it is not I that be the witch at all. Living in a fear based society

where red tape closes more tightly by the day around our proverbial necks, we

need people who have the courage to stick by the subtly and on a forum such as

this we have to teach people to attend to their sensitivity and stick by life's

subtleties - subtleties of the heart - which are transferred to the higher brain

and then to the healing fingers - before the brains of modern science damn well

kill and maim us ALL.

 

Please let us not try to use allopathy to translate the subtle - it doesn't work

= you kill the frog in dissection.

 

best,

 

Jane

 

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muzumdar

> You are absolutely correct when you point out the importance of

pre-diagnosis. Every major disease in Ayurveda has been allocated with such

pre-clinical incipient signs and symptoms.

<snip>

But, but... what I wanted to emphasise is that in the age of evidence-basd

medicine approach, such fine sensivities cannot be accepted as actual facts, as

they are not comfirmed by third-party investigations.

Hence,even though awareness prevails in a Ayurvedic physician, he is bound to

act by the rules and regulations of current age, which is definitely a

limitation.

<snip>