Guest guest Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Can I please get detailed info about " eczyma - its' causes/ provoking factors / treatments etc? I have a child with eczyma and it gets worse for him during spring season. Thank you! Amrutha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Permanent Cure for Eczema ? Eczema has attracted so much discussion on this list, 97 messages exist in archives. Before we delve into further discussion, a cursory review of these experiences of patients and vaidyas will be useful. The message numbers are indicated in parentheses(). While discussion strated with the effective use of self urine (483), the extreme approach of curing without using any medicines was described in fasting detoxification(9552). Avoiding dairy, sugar, grains and legumes while using vegetables, meats, fats and fruits is one western approach useful for non vegetarians in cold countries (9128); dairy is especially important as processed milk results in allergic reactions(7707). Treatment of not only eczema, but even other skin diseases through steroidal approaches takes one to face cancer (6835) or one alternates between Eczema and asthma (5538, 5585, 6624, 7408). Eczema often tires and confuses Vaidyas too (6644). Detoxification of body to remove morbid matter is advised often (5820, 9552), while simple herbal recommendations such as Neem+Tulsi+Kalmegh(7045), Neem oil(6655), Raktashodhak decoction, Panchtikta Ghrutam, Majistha Ghanavti, Steam sauna, Sunth, Bharangi etc (5537) have been offered. Slightly more stronger is ayurveda's wide spectrum anti-fungal anti-biotic Gandhak Rasayana (5386) and use of stale urine (4169) as free medicine. Having seen major past posts, author tries to expand ayurvedic perspective along with few more Panchgavya medicine recommendations for consideration by other vaidyas who are not familiar with recent Panch Gavya medicines. Some introductory material in the beginning is for non-vaidyas and may be skipped by vaidyas. While 50% beauty of human body is contributed by skin, we do not pay much attention to skin or understand its importance as long as it is without blemishes, smooth and healthy. But moment some eruptions come, rashes or cuts develop or itching starts, our hand reaches there automatically. When skin becomes dry or gives rise to small eruptions, it starts signaling us by way of itching or stinging sensations. Itching causes removal of surface layers, leaving cracks or blemishes behind. Itching, Redness on skin, Dry and flaky skin, Itchy blisters, Inflammation on skin, Small bumps on forehead, neck and cheek, Rough and thickened skin. Symptoms of eczema are more severe on the folds. Oozing of sticky discharge also starts sometime. Skin is our protective organ and once this cover breaks, the entry to infectious organisms becomes easy. The cracks, blemsishes, blisters start expanding, itching time increases, blisters also start spreading to other areas. The acharyas have termed this state as Vicharchika " Sakandu Pidika Sthava Bahustrava Vicharchika " describes the disease aptly. Eczema is English name. Smoke, chemicals, detergents, solvents and even weather conditions could aggravate the condition. Excessive stress, heat and emotional stress also aggravates the symptoms of eczema. Skin is second kidney and liver uses it to expel the toxins which otherwise will damage regular kidney. Hence itching is seen maximum during 1 to 5 am local time. It is during this time when liver, spleen and lungs detoxify their toxins (ama) according to circadian rhythm. Eczema exhibits two types. When the skin is dry, blackish, rough, itching, then it is dry eczema, some experts term it as Kitibha, while the wet eczema causes oozing of sticky discharge in addition. While both types cause itching, the wet eczema causes more itching. The most common type of eczema mainly occurs among infants and small children. In more than 90% of cases, eczema is found to occur in children below 5 years of age. It is a non contagious disease. Like asthma, eczema is also hereditary. Both are related and are often two views of the same disease. In both conditions Kapha is the main dosha participating. In medical astrology, the affliction of moon by Saturn, mercury and/or Rahu(Node) causes asthma and/or eczema. Author believes that incompatibility of blood between parents punishes children this way. For many patients, the curing of asthma initiates eczema or curing of eczema initiates asthma attacks. The chances of such presentations increase by allopathic suppressive steroidal medicines. Please note that all steroidal sprays, while they give rapid relief from the symptoms, their addictive component becomes important after prolonged use. The recent post regarding codeine took this author to a forum where the addiction of steroidal sprays is also described by patients. Hence in ayurveda, one must remove the unbalance of doshas, if he has to seek permanent cure. Treatment protocol Avoid indigestion and constipation. Constipation slows down digestion and slowed digestion increases doshas. Such increased unbalance does not allow eczema to cure. Try to remove vitiated doshas (ama) by vaman or virechana. Drink two glass (500 ml) warm water everyday early morning. Try to vomit it out by rubbing three middle fingers on the center of the tongue. The water will come out bringing out sticky ama with it. You may add emetic herbs to increase effectiveness, if recommened by vaidya. Observe the color and taste of water. Tell this to Vaidya, which helps him estimate the extent of further ama remaining and its type. If all water does not come out, do not worry, it will leave the body through urine and stool. A comprehensive detox is a better strategy, as it cleans all below diphragm systems. In skin diseases and also as Raktashodhak medicine, Mahamanjistadi Quath or Ghanvati is normally used. While Mahamanjistadi has more number of herbs, Laghumanjista is also useful. Haritaki, Vibhitaki, Amalaki, Neem bark, Vacha, Guduchi, Daruharidra, Majistha, Katuki etc are the herbs contained in Laghu Manjista quath. The neem bark, guduchi, katuki try to sublimate Kapha dosha while Vacha, trifla, katuki try to expel the doshas outside through stools. That is why Trifla is termed " Bhedak " also. This combination is best for purification of both blood and skin, hence itching slowly subsides. New blisters, rashes and eruptions do not surface. The old ones heal rapidly. Those who can prepare fresh decoctions, should use 100 ml water 4 tsp mixture of quath, and boil till 20-25 ml remains. If eczema is dry, Vata prsence is also indicated, in such case, add 1-3 tsp castor oil to the decoction just while drinking. For those who have no access to herbs, can take Laghu Manjista Ghanvati 2 tablets morning and 2 tablets evening with warm water. Another classic medicine is Kamdudha Ras. It has pearl bhasma, suvarna gairic etc. Though more costly, it offers faster relief from itching. Take 1 Tablet with milk every morning as well as evening. The root of eczema is in colon. It is essential that colon remains clean. If it is efficient, it can not allow doshas to accumulate in the body. The most suitable virechana for this disease, being kapha dominant, is Gandharva haritaki or Erand Bhrashta Haritaki. The haritaki is available in two varities. Big and small. The smaller one is to be fried in castor oil and then after removing excess oil, it can be ground to powder. Taken 1 tsp with warm water every night, causes dosha expelling, with minimum discomfort to colon. This variety of haritaki also comes useful for people suffering from Irritable bowel syndrome. Panchgavya medines Panchgavya medicines are prepared by distillation of cow urine along with herbal decoctions. Gomutrasava is similar to various asavas containing natural alcohol. Cow urine mixed with jaggery and other herbs as needed, is stored in earthen pots and underground for a month. This releases phytochemicals of herbs in cow urine along with natural alcohol from jaggery. Cow urine pungency, smell all vanishes, and it becomes difficult to recognize that medicine is made from cow urine. This Gomutrasava, when taken early morning and also half an hour before meals, causes hunger, good digestion and absorption of doshas also. The excess doshas are eliminated through stools. When stools start floating in water, you may stop or reduce the dosage. Cow urine is simply distilled and a distillate is made. This distillate can be applied on itching eczema legions. Being pungent, it causes some stinging sensation, inflammation for few minutes, but after few minutes, it subsides. More important for us is the reduction in itching. This is similar to the stinging sensation when various ointments are used on skin eruptions. Reducing time of stinging will also be noted slowly. Diet Take food at regular meal time and not before earlier food is digested fully. Eating little less than hunger allows adequate mixing and processing in the stomach. One of the main features of people suffering from asthma, eczema is their low metabolism rates, low stomach acids, low blood sugar, low blood pressure. While dairy is contraindicated by westerners, ayurveda allows cow milk if boiled with ginger powder and turmeric powder, which makes it more digestible and less kapha enhancing. One should avoid incompatible foods (list available at: http://www.healthy.net/scr/article.asp? Id=397) Sugar craving can be satisfied by eating jaggery and fruits containing glycosugars. Avoid sour foods. Sour yogurt, tomatoes, tamarind etc. Amalaki, lemon, pomegranate do not come under sour foods, as per ayurveda. If you can replace oil by cow ghee, better cure. You can use all spices in curries, but use ghee for sauting. Avoid legumes and beans which are heavier for digestion.Green gram is most acceptable in India, as easier to digest and causing less ama generation. Ground nut and sesame in any form should be avoided. Avoid fish, chicken, mutton as well as eggs. Since disease is helped by Kapha vitiation, avoid sleeping during day or within an hour after dinner. Do not keep awake late night also. Tikta tastes: Karela (bitter gourd), Ridge gourd, Smo-oth gourd, Snake gourd, bottle gourd, fenugreek leafy vegetable, cauli-flower, Cabbage, Spinach, Chaulai, are good vegetables to eat. [if you need names of these vegetables in other languages, contact off-list]. The principle here is that most of these vegetables are fruits coming from creepers. If blisters are oozing the discharge, the herbal mixture should have emphasis on Guduchi, or one can take Amrutadi Guggulu, the dosage to be decided by Vaidya. Use a mixture of Jatyadi Taila and Neem taila. Apply on legions and apply a cotton bandage over them. You can also use Karanj Taila, in case neem tail is not available. Even Panchguna Taila provides some relief. If these oils are not available or difficult to obtain, you can mix little camphor (Bhimsen Kapoor) in coconut oil and apply it to relieve itching. A mixture of little camphor and sandalwood paste made in oil can also be applied on the rashes. An equal mixture of honey and cinnamon powder can also be applied on blisters to reduce itching. Honey is best anti-fungal, anti-septic. But stinging sensation is very high when cinnamon powder is used along with hoeny. There are a number of other remedies to live with Eczema. But aim should be permanent cure, not living with it. Change in lifestyle, philosophy, stress through family and workplace relationship will also help. Eczema as well as asthma are stress dependant as much as weather dependant. Most patients suffer in spring, as flowering of tress and spreading of pollen causes reactions to many. Monsoon season, due to wetness, low immunity causes more suffering. As the disease is stress dependant, the yoga and breathing techniques help. Even if patient is not sensitive to asthma attack, the breathing techniques increase immunity and reduce sensitivity to external triggers in environment. Once doshas of body and mind are balanced, eczema is cured permanently. ayurveda , " amrutha_naveen " <amrutha_naveen wrote: > > Can I please get detailed info about " eczyma - its' causes/ provoking > factors / treatments etc? I have a child with eczyma and it gets > worse for him during spring season. > > Thank you! > Amrutha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Amrutha, Would you clarify the following points? >> You have mentioned about your chld having eczema. Can you mention his age? Because some Ayurvedic treatments for eczema may differ according to the age factor. For example, some medicines are very bitter and the child may have vomiting after taking the medicine. Sometimes some Panchkarma procedures are contra-indicated in children or they have to be done under utmost care under the supervision and guidance of expert Panchkarma specialist. Sometimes some medicines may contain metals / minerals which can harm the internal organs of the child. >> You have mentioned that the eczema gets worse during spring season. It means that eczema is influencedby Kapha dosha. Because spring is the season when there is a natural accumulatory aggravation of Kapha as stated in Ayurveda. So, besides local treatment of skin, your child will need Kapha-reducing treatment tocontrl the Kapha aggravation. Spring season also is indicative of allergic manifestations. Find out if he is allergic to any plants or plant parts Dr. Muzumdar M.D.(Ayurvedic-Medicine) ______________ amrutha_naveen Can I please get detailed info about " eczyma - its' causes/ provoking factors / treatments etc? I have a child with eczyma and it gets worse for him during spring season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 I can tell you that my eczyma pretty much went away when I put a water filter on my shower. Make sure your child is bathing only in filtered water, it will help. Also, its helped me to put on lotion after I get out of the shower or bath, and to only use organic skin products. I only ever suffer from my eczyma in the spring time now, when my allergies are the worst, and even then its very mild. I used to have it bad all year, and for a long time I didn't know what it was and itched at it so bad that I took off a lot of skin. I have scars. But the water filter worked miracles. Give it a try, it cant hurt. Plus, my acne went away and my hair looks great now! Jessi amrutha_naveen <amrutha_naveen wrote: Can I please get detailed info about " eczyma - its' causes/ provoking factors / treatments etc? I have a child with eczyma and it gets worse for him during spring season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 can you please tell me what type of water filter you use and where I can get one. I have needed one for two years now. WE have moved to a place with very hard water and it has caused my hair to fall and children's skin to be very dry. If you have allergies in the spring you may consider taking triphala regularly every night - a teaspoon of triphala mixed in hot water will help to cleanse the body and reduce allergies. It is also very important to do a cleanse in the spring and fall to prevent allergies. Jessika Stone <remindersofthen wrote: I can tell you that my eczyma pretty much went away when I put a water filter on my shower. Make sure your child is bathing only in filtered water, it will help. Also, its helped me to put on lotion after I get out of the shower or bath, and to only use organic skin products. <snip> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 My mom uses this brand http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS/EN_US/diy_main/pg_diy.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@\ 1479763128.1175283300@@@@ & BV_EngineID=ccedaddkifhgjgmcgelceffdfgidgnk.0 & CNTTYPE=\ PROD_META & CNTKEY=misc/searchResults.jsp & MID=9876 & N=2984+8992 & pos=n08 I use a similar one only its round and doesn't have a protruding end. Home depot used to carry it but I guess they switched to this one. This one is very good though, my mom has not had a problem with it. You have to replace the cartrige every six months which reminds me, its about time to replace mine. ___________ can you please tell me what type of water filter you use and where I can get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 Thanks to all those who responded to my post regarding eczyma. Regards, Amrutha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 I would like to say that with my first pregnancy I gained 50 pounds and gave birth to an 8'7 child. This child was not obese, he was actually very thin for the first eight years of his life and worried us - he is nine now and has gained enough weight to look healthy. My second pregnancy I gained 30 and gave birth to 6'13 I was so sick in this pregnancy and ate lots of junk food - my baby looked so wrinklly - the skin was hanging off of her as though the fat that was supposed to fill it did not come. She had trouble with her digestive system for several months. My third pregnancy I gained 50 and gave birth to 8'9 This is my only child that is chubby - not obese, but pleasantly plump. She is kapha in natre - was born at a kapha time and is not obese but very beautiful. My final pregnancy I gained 30 and gave birth to a nine pound child. This child was heavy but always looked very thin - I have a very big bone structure and I think she got that. She was another child that we were worried about due to her ravenousness. She is two now and finally has gained enough weight to look healthy. I would not worry too much. I know it is traumatic to grow up overweight and that sticks with you for a while. Maybe you should do some journaling and other exercises to help you overcome that so that you are free from that emotional trauma as you enter parenthood. This society nurtures such an unhealthy idea about what is healthy and puts a lot of pressure on people to look a certain way that is not acheivable by probably 90 percent of the population! Studying ayurveda and understanding that we all have our own unique body structure and can be healthy in many shapes and sizes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 ayurveda , Jessika Stone <remindersofthen wrote: > > I can tell you that my eczyma pretty much went away when I put a water filter on my shower. Here is some explaination for water filter miracle! http://health.msn.com/general/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100154510 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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