Hormonal Migraines

[Guest guest]

Namaste

I suffer from Migraines every month before and after my period. They

tend to last 2-3 days despite perscription meds such as, fioreset,

midrin, naprosen, relpax, and imitrex. I feel they aree hormonal due to

the fact they are always linked to my period. I do not take birth

control pills, nor do I want to. I am looking for advice and relief.

Daya

[Guest guest]

Do you also have pain in the neck along with the

headache?

Do you have bloating, lower back pain or constipation?

--- satyadayama <satyadayama wrote:

 

> Namaste

> I suffer from Migraines every month before and after

> my period. They

> tend to last 2-3 days despite perscription meds

[Guest guest]

Yes. I do get pain in the neck on the side of the migraine pain. I

haven't noticed the lower back pain, bloating or constipation as

related. However, I do get all three symptoms during my period. The

migraines typically hit right before and right after. Sometimes I get

one right in the middle.

 

 

ayurveda , mandv m <mandakiniven wrote:

> Do you also have pain in the neck along with the

> headache?

> Do you have bloating, lower back pain or constipation?

[Guest guest]

These menstrual migraines occur mostly in teenagers. Author would also

like to know if you have any mercury fillings in teeth. a coomon cause

of all migraines is temporary constriction of some blood vessels in brain, and

dilation of other vessels to compensate.

 

Body's inner intelligence compromises blood flow to certain areas, to

allow higher flow to more important areas, at least for time being.

Menstrual flow requires to be primed by drawing out on blood flow from

nearby muscles of less importance at that time. Hence back pain, pain

in thighs, cramps, calf muscle pain etc is a common occurance. And it

is good too, so that a woman gets advance warning and take rest at

proper shelter. Acharyas declared abstinance from all house hold duties

so that the women do not suffer during menstruation.

 

The menstruation also allows women to get rid of impure blood,

or " rakta dhatu " impurities. Thus impurities " peak " just before

menstruation. This is what causes migraine before menstruation. There

is a connection between gonads and liver pointed out by author in a post titled

" shortened cycle " , thus hormonal changes require

participation from liver also. liver is the " engine " driving menses.

Hence most medicines for PMS (migraine is one symptom of PMS) are based

on aloe vera or its formulations. Do not take any painkiller, most

painkillers create suitable situation for polycystic ovaries later.

While simple migrains are cured by applying a paste of dry ginger

powder (1/2 tsp) and turmeric powder (1/4 tsp) mixed together in milk

and applied to forehead for an hour. the menstrual migraines can be

taken care by taking aloe vera pulp, 10-20 grams empty stomach first

thing in the morning with 2 pinches of saindhav salt and again 1/4 tsp

of turmeric powder! Take for three months and bye to migraine connected with

periods. These migraines are just the beginning of the later cystic ovary

syndrome after 5-10 years.

 

Involvement of neck and shoulder may incidcate some problem in cervical

vertebrae discs.

 

If your haemoglobin is low (as is in most teenagers suffering from

menstrual migraines), taking 4 date crush along with overnight soaked

two almonds (remove almond peel before chewing them) would help. See

message 1530 also. Author could stop 99 menstrual migrains out of 100

bu just ginger, turmeric, dates and almonds. Ginger powder (1/2 tsp),

turmeric powder (1/4 tsp) boiled in two cups water till one cup remains

and taken with lemon juice of 1/2 lemon, three times a day also takes

care of this problem, since this drink is also directed to liver.

Ginger and turmeric are ladies herbs, kitchen spices, can cure

arthritis to cervical cancer too, as posted by this author in archives.

 

Their simple availability makes their importance less in our mind!

 

Apart from this, taking rest in dark room will also help.

 

 

ayurveda , " satyadayama " <satyadayama

wrote:

>

> Namaste

> I suffer from Migraines every month before and after my period. They

> tend to last 2-3 days despite perscription meds such as, fioreset,

> midrin, naprosen, relpax, and imitrex. I feel they aree hormonal due

to

> the fact they are always linked to my period. I do not take birth

> control pills, nor do I want to. I am looking for advice and relief.

> Daya

>

[Guest guest]

I have found that many women get this type of neck

pain and headache with onset of menstruation.

There is a point in the neck that is associated with

the uterus.

If you massage your neck two days before you are due

to menstruate I think you would get some relidef of

this problem.

The constipation is related to improper flow of apana

vayu and is common in many women.

Before your period you can take prune juice or hot

rice pudding for a couple of days and make sure to

massage the body with warm sesame oil in a downward

motion from the base of the ribcage to the pelvis.

Make sure to also massage the neck and do gentle neck

exercises.

Turn the head to the right and try to gently look over

your shoulder, slowly rotate the head to the right and

gently try to look over your shoulder.

Look down and push your shoulders back and then slowly

lift the head.

This will help the neck stay open and the trigger

point for the headaches will not get pressed.

Keep a heating pad on the lower abdomen to help energy

flow downward so that onset of menstruation is easy

and unrestricted.

--- satyadayama <satyadayama wrote:

 

> Yes. I do get pain in the neck on the side of the

> migraine pain. I

> haven't noticed the lower back pain, bloating or

> constipation as

> related. However, I do get all three symptoms during

> my period. The

> migraines typically hit right before and right

> after. Sometimes I get

> one right in the middle.

[Guest guest]

Thank you very much. I feel very hopefulwith this new information.

Blessings,

Daya

[Guest guest]

Please forgive me for bringing this up, but I'm need help. I have

always had trouble with my periods. I didn't start until I was almost

seventeen and then would menstruate sometimes, for three months

straight. Then I'd go for many months with nothing. It's always very

irregular, and dangerously heavy. After having my four children, the

doctor thinned out the uterus by burning the lining, so I wouldn't

bleed so much. I still have a period(which surprised my doctor. She

thought I'd probably stop, altogether.) and I'm much lighter in

bleeding, but I still bleed for at least 21 days. I paid more

attention and realized, it may be that I'm having two periods every

month. I seem to start and then finish after about ten days. Then a

few days later, it starts up again and goes another ten days. I

finally stop after the second one for about ten to fifteen days and

then it begins all over. I don't want to take drugs. My doctor has

done every test many times over and keeps telling me everything is

normal. I know it isn't. After I had my last child, I was producing

milk, even until she was almost four years old. I hadn't even nursed

her because she had an undeveloped throat when she was born and needed

careful bottle feeding. I also notice that I often have a sudden drop

of clear liquid, similar to water, occasionally. There is absolutely

no smell, and it's about as much as a large handful of water. Doctors

don't give me any answers to any of this. They are full of pride,

too, and don't like to talk about things they weren't taught in

school, so they ignore me. I'm only 34. I'm 113 pounds, 5'4. I'm

vegan. I've had MS like symptoms since I was seventeen with chronic

pain. I also have all the signs of severe B vitamin and magnesium

deficiencies, but doctors say they don't see that on the tests,

either. I know that when I take magnesium, I have a lot of relief. I

don't know how to take B vit. yet. I won't eat meat. I'm tired of

doctors saying everything is normal and doing nothing to help. They

offer no natural alternatives. I'm in California. Hope someone has

some ideas for me. Thanks so much for your time.

 

Mayme(Mommy+Amy)ayurveda , mandv m

<mandakiniven wrote:

>

> I have found that many women get this type of neck

> pain and headache with onset of menstruation.

> There is a point in the neck that is associated with

> the uterus.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Acording to the mail you sent about Hormonal Migraines you make an allusion

to the use of analgesic on treating PMS and its consequences. I am very

interested in this subject and would like to read something related to

menstruation in ayurvedic tradition and so, also reading from you all about

the mistakes of occidental medicine treating menstruation without taking

care of this process. Could you guide me a little?

Thank you very much.

Carmen

P.s.: I also suffer from hormonal migraines so I will try to treat it with

this turmeric/ginger combo.

 

_

These menstrual migraines occur mostly in teenagers. Author would also

like to know if you have any mercury fillings in teeth. a coomon cause

of all migraines is temporary constriction of some blood vessels in brain,

and

dilation of other vessels to compensate.

<snip>

[Guest guest]

Wow very interesting.

Would you say the MS type symptoms and menstruation came together?

Were you always vegan?

What kind of ms symptoms?

Are you thin at this 113 pound 5'4?

Are you heavy or light bone structure? Thin or thick hair?

Slow or quick nature?

Fast or slow talker?

Soft and tender and gentle or moody, nervous?

 

B vitamin can be found in yogurt - yogurt is very good for health on many

levels - are you willing to eat yogurt?

You can take a bit of magnesium if it helps you, but it is possible that this

is an absorption problem, what type of diet do you take? What do you generally

eat at morning lunch supper?

 

maymecall <no_reply > wrote:

Please forgive me for bringing this up, but I'm need help. I have

always had trouble with my periods. <snipped heavy>

[Guest guest]

Thank you, for asking;

 

Yes, the MS symptoms started around the same time I started

menstruation, -almost seventeen. No, I grew up in a meat-eating

family, and stopped eating meat after a Near Death experience, four

years ago. I find that I feel better staying away from the dairy and

eggs, as well. I woke up, the first incident, at age seventeen,

hardly able to breath, and couldn't walk. I felt disconnected. The

pain was so severe, I tried to scream, and couldn't, because the

pressure from screaming caused too much pain. It took about a week

before I was walking again, but then I had episodes on and off and

still do. Currently, I am losing feeling in the bottom of my feet and

have trouble walking, but I notice that I feel much better when I

sleep well, ..as with any physical problem. The muscle tissue hurts

all over, and used to be in constant spasms, but when I tried stopping

gluten, the spasms calmed down. Now, I just have persistent soreness

and fatigue. I was reading about vitamins and simply read the section

of deficiencies. I was surprised(this was a few days ago), to find

all my symptoms fit under the Deficiency signs for lack of magnesium

and all the B vitamins.

 

Sleep disturbance

Irritability

rapid heartbeat tachychardia, heart murmer

confusion

muscle spasm

Gastro Intestinal upset

nausea and vomiting(I have to take ginger every day to keep from

throwing up)

extremely low blood pressure

canker sores

dizziness/verigo

hair loss

halitosis

tingling in extremities

unsteady walk

severe constipation(Triphala helps me, though)

occasional hallucinations(when deprived long enough of sleep)

parasthesia in the legs

anemia

spinal chord degeneration and the beginning of spondilitis

 

I have all those symptoms and they fit under magnes. and B vitamin

defic. Even when I ate meat every day, those were my problems. I'm

very conscious of what I eat, making sure I get all the vitamins I

need and take supplements as well, but it seems I don't absorb mag. or

B vits. I don't understand it.

 

I am not too thin at 113 pds and 5 feet four inches. I have a small

build and have always been very small. I'm 34 years old and still

have salespeople come to the door and ask to talk to my " mom " .

I have very thin, fine, chestnut brown hair with some red highlights

from the sun. I've been of a very nervous, quick nature all my life.

I've learned how to work on calming down. My doctor said my oxygen

level is very low and I have a machine for oxygen at night, despite my

being very small-bodied. I talk, A LOT, and quickly, but I've become

very quiet and contemplative since my Near Death exp. I'm moody and

nervous by nature, and have to constantly remind myself not to be

negative. I can get very hyper and excited and I have trouble with

adrenalin shooting through my system at odd times, like while I'm

asleep, or while doing something trivial. I have to take more than

1,000 mg of mag. each night to keep my legs from jerking all night.

It definitely helps, but I feel very loose and have trouble holding

myself up, if I need to get up and walk. I have a lot of trouble

around electricity. I get more nauseated and dizzy.

 

I eat all vegetables, ..especially fresh spinach, every day.

I eat some fruit, but not much. Anything with sugar, ..natural or

not, bothers my mouth. I get canker sores from sweet things. So I

never touch sugar or candy, normally.

I eat rice and all beans.

I much on pine nuts, almonds, cashews, peanuts, brazil nuts, hazel

nuts, all day long.

I also drink lots of pure water.

 

I don't do gluten at all. No chemicals, chocolate or anything that

isn't " Whole " .

 

Here are my supplements;

 

I just ordered something called, Pureganic Liquid Manna and Pureganic

Mineral Powder.(I was told it was a magical formula that would heal

me) We'll see about that.

I take 6 Triphala pills a day

I take Accuflora probiotics -3 capsule a day

I always take ginger root to keep from vomiting

I take two multi vitamins called, Women's multi from Jarrow formulas

I'm also just starting flaxseed oil, to get my omegas

I have nitro-glycerin from the doctor, because a few times a year my

heart has spasms and it is excruciating.

 

I am willing to eat yogurt, if I can find one that is organic, and

know that the animals that contributed were treated very humanely.

I'll do some research.

 

Thanks so much for your input. I want so much to be free again. Hope

some of my information gives someone an idea.

 

amy

ayurveda , mandv m <mandakiniven wrote:

>

> Wow very interesting.

> Would you say the MS type symptoms and menstruation came together?

> Were you always vegan?

> What kind of ms symptoms?

> Are you thin at this 113 pound 5'4?

> Are you heavy or light bone structure? Thin or thick hair?

> Slow or quick nature?

> Fast or slow talker?

> Soft and tender and gentle or moody, nervous?

[Guest guest]

Oops. Forgot your question about meal time. When I wake up, I drink

lots of room-temperature pure water and relax for a while. Then I

drink some juice, ..apple, orange, pomegranite.. I'll eat a banana,

sometimes. 7a.m. At lunch, I usually make soup. I love lentil and

use a lot of onions and fresh veggies of every kind. I like Thai

coconut soup, too. In the evening, I usually eat an enormous spinach

salad with about fifteen different veggies and some organic virgin

olive oil dressing. I have other things, too, but that's a good

example. I don't have a lot of soy, but sometimes I'll have stir-fry

veggies with some soy sauce, or natural ice cream made with soy

instead of dairy, sweetened with fruit juice, instead of sugar. My

greatest weakness is salt. I love chips and anything salty. Popcorn,

etc.

 

Thanks again for your thoughts on my ailment.

 

amyayurveda , mandv m <mandakiniven

wrote:

>

> Wow very interesting.

> Would you say the MS type symptoms and menstruation came together?

[Guest guest]

--- maymecall <no_reply > wrote:

 

> Thank you, for asking;

>

> Yes, the MS symptoms started around the same time I

> started

> menstruation, -almost seventeen. <snip>

 

 

 

I am thinking about you and will get back to you when

I have some more ideas,

You are very vata by nature so oil massage done daily

with sesame oil would benefit you.

Shiro dhara - pouring oil over the head from a pot

with a small hole in the bottom would also help.

I have some further questions but may not be

appropriate online - if you are interested you can

email me personally punditvenkat

[Guest guest]

pms shows a big amount of unharmoniouse erotic energy. try to sublimate it.

also take measures to reduce vata dosha, like warm milk with castor oil and

honney in the night

 

 

 

Carmen <Bledeuwedb

Sunday, March 11, 2007 3:53:17 AM

Acording to the mail you sent about Hormonal Migraines you make an allusion

to the use of analgesic on treating PMS and its consequences.

[Guest guest]

Dear AMy;

 

Hopefully you have gotten in touch with Mandv privately. A few things

stand out that may be of help she may or may not note, forgive this is

not the usual big picture approach just a few good pieces -

>

> Yes, the MS symptoms started around the same time I started

> menstruation, -almost seventeen.

 

The late onset of menstruation alone will give much higher level of

pitta, contributing to excess bleeding. Pain levels thru the roof and

many other symptoms described yes show such high vata imbalances. I

would be including if not some sesame oil basti with bala before

menstruation for a few days, definitely find dosage and frequency recs

for you on the small castor oil milk/honey recommended by another

member. Much comfort can be gained also by using small piece of

undyed flannel soaked in ghee or sesame oil (add bala in decotion for

even better) and sleeping with it inserted vaginally, 1 week before

menses is due and until. It oleates, nourishes, and soothes the

pelvic tissues in many ways. Bala has vata rasayana, analgesic and

muscle affinity.

 

Migraines also show up with chronic constipation and even home PK such

as in Dr. Lad's home remedies book with the oleation would be one of

my choices, although your situation is extreme and best will be to

consult someone in California who is trained vaidya with women's

issues such as Dr. Apte if near SFrancisco to diagnose in careful

attention to what your body wants to do first, and guide you carefully

(providing also gentle abhyanga and shirodara services). PK is not

done during first days of menses or heavy bleeding, and with your

frequency, timing will be essential.

 

>Currently, I am losing feeling in the bottom of my feet and.... I

was reading about vitamins and simply read the section of deficiencies.

 

I have had this symptom come and go and learned yes, this symptom can

be from not only nerve pinching in damaged spine or advancing

diabetes, but from 2 of the following 3 (about my memory here) low

B12, low Folic acid, or low glutathione (latter is not successfully

supplemented directly, it is an end chain liver antioxidant which is

very important throughout the body and I don't know how this

translates in Ayruveda except probably both the sanskaras you came in

with and have experienced as one suggested accumulated chaotic 2nd

chakra energies can also mess with body agni and enzymes. Does it

also come up with mercury? I do not know, but can concur with Dr.

Bhate that mercury leaching in the mouth can greatly exacerbate immune

system, many of your symptoms, and cankor sores.

 

ARe you taking water soluble mag or pills? The water sol seems much

better absorbed. Product (just that) called CALM most available.

 

As many of us must be noticing, so many of these symptoms are high

vata. And arjuna, ashoka, shatavari, ashwaghanda, amalaki, pippali

among herbs that come to mind immediately to this author, but please,

professional guidance for a balanced personalized formula...

 

Feel called to report very surprising reduction in the cold sore virus

for some with large doses of St. Johns wort oil. The source product

is sun infused 1000 hours in olive oil (also has alchemical potency in

this combination for the nervous system and brain tissues direct detox

and healing. this blend not for depression). Flora company sells

this, we do kinesiology for dosage, usually 30 or 40 capsules split

into 2 daily doses over some time! No, they are not vegan from Flora.

Any other sources this combo?

 

Coconut butter/oil etc supportive also with the canker sores

(monolaurin compound therein), much use of nuts very counter

productive due to the amino acid profile. Max equiv of 10 - 12 almonds

a day even that back off when fighting the sores, and ALWAYS soak your

nuts overnight or more, and peel the almonds. Better to eat more

quinoa and amaranth (high in lysine and complete amino acid profile)

and avoid brown rice very often, this also enhances the viral growth.

REgular use of lysine as a supplement reduces immune vitality

somehow though, and it is not an antiviral as some think. Pippali

decoction in milk Trivedi taught is helpful, but I don't see it

noticably so for acute case - maybe in this good food discussion is

properly placed advice and happy cow's milk being also so very

soothing properly used, for vata and pitta.

 

Alongside more traditional ayurvedic routines you will hopefully find

recommended in this forum or privately, I'd be doing several weeks of

2 TBS pumpkin seed oil daily followed by about 3 weeks of mega dose

folic acid liquid (Pure Encapsulations brand only, 1/4 bottle daily at

once), followed by the st. john's wort as above. Pumpkin seed oil

(any brand) helps like any good oil not only nourish and lubricate,

but this oil helps clean some specail glands in the omentum for dhatu

ojases, according to one of my teachers who gives these tools and

others. The folic acid may have been short during your own wombtime,

certainly with it's ability to facilitate many many different

chemistries may be wise jumpstart to help saturate a good turnaround.

Again, I don't know the ayurveda translation here, except that whole

foods sometimes are not enough to restore a major balance in comfort

timing so we use additional measures.

 

Most vegans I have met by far are way too vata, too much raw foods and

need to favor more cooked vegetables, more agni enhancing culinary

spices, more balanced proteins, more good cholesterol fats as well as

the EFAs (be sure to use the highest lignan flax. Dr. Johanna Budwig

has a recipe probably valuable to you called Oleolox, since you don't

use dairy much. I'd be cooking onions and garlic gently and well in

your case, to also both reduce vata and the harsh energetics on your

emotional and spiritual body.

 

For vata conditions, our experience with triphala is to take soaked in

hot water like a tea, rather than tablets. Not very tasty, though we

taste what we need...sometimes it can actually be appealing! I left

home 6 weeks ago without usual supply and would love a cup right now...

 

One other thought to share. If there is opportunity to regularly use

organic essential oils, especially the low temperature and pressure

distilled, and those most directly oxygenating, you will probably find

them also very helpful with needed prana and calming. Sandalwood will

likely be very kind addition too if affordable, one drop touched on

all chakra areas. Also on canker sores, being cooling, thickly

unctuous, and antiviral. We have a blend very helpful with migraine

pain, but your whole body/big picture enquiry is so much wiser for

long term results!

 

Kind Wishes for your comfort and healing;

 

Ysha Oakes, D.Ayur, PPAD

www.sacredwindow.com

[Guest guest]

I don't even know what to say, I'm so grateful. I tried to email you,

but could not find an address. Please email me with your address, if

I can send you some money. I don't have a lot, but I respect the time

you took to help me and feel thankful. I printed this out, and will

be studying it for a long time.

 

Thank you, so very much. I want to get better!

 

amy

 

p.s. I'm having a holistic dentist take out all my mercury right now.

I hope that will be helpful.ayurveda ,

ayurdoula <no_reply wrote:

>

> Dear AMy;

>

> Hopefully you have gotten in touch with Mandv privately. A few things

> stand out that may be of help she may or may not note, forgive this is

> not the usual big picture approach just a few good pieces -

> >

> > Yes, the MS symptoms started around the same time I started

> > menstruation, -almost seventeen.

<snip>