When to Stop Cleansing?

[Guest guest]

Hello everyone

 

I have just completed my 7th liver cleanse, 4 months on from my 1st

and am now wondering if and when I should stop cleansing every 3

weeks. Andreas Moritz recommends continuing cleansing until no

further stones are expelled. This 7th cleanse has produced very few

stones, and those that it did were very small (no pea sized as at the

beginning).

 

I have noticed an improvement in the flushing, but not in the

appearance of the skin so far, but following the food guidelines may

be reason. I avoid all the heat producing and congesting foods as

recommended as far as possible, but I possibly eat too much fruit and

occasionally other foods not in the favour list of the pitta diet.

Maybe damp heat is the problem?

 

My question is: should I continue with the cleansing any further or

simply stick more rigidly to the food and supplement guidelines but

cleanse periodically? The weight loss issue is also a concern, since

I am already underweight and have lost more during the cleansing.

 

Best wishes to One Love and the group.

 

Steve

UK

[Guest guest]

Hi Steve,

 

If you still have spots on your skin, you still have toxins in your

system (the spots are places where toxins are trying to push

through, because your colon can't handle the load). Have you done

colonics complemented with toxin-absorbing bentonite liquid and a

fibre? Some people use psyllium (but a few may be allergic to it).

 

I find eating Kichadi (recipe is in the files of this news group)

really helps in cooling down the pitta (and so does the Ayurvedic

cleanse -- also in the files). You might have trouble finding the

hulled mung beans, in that case use the green mung beans -- you just

have to cook them longer.

 

PC

 

 

 

, " Steve Sharp "

<steve_sharp12@h...> wrote:

> Hello everyone

>

> I have just completed my 7th liver cleanse, 4 months on from my

1st

> and am now wondering if and when I should stop cleansing every 3

> weeks. Andreas Moritz recommends continuing cleansing until no

> further stones are expelled. This 7th cleanse has produced very

few

> stones, and those that it did were very small (no pea sized as at

the

> beginning).

>

> I have noticed an improvement in the flushing, but not in the

> appearance of the skin so far, but following the food guidelines

may

> be reason. I avoid all the heat producing and congesting foods as

> recommended as far as possible, but I possibly eat too much fruit

and

> occasionally other foods not in the favour list of the pitta diet.

> Maybe damp heat is the problem?

>

> My question is: should I continue with the cleansing any further

or

> simply stick more rigidly to the food and supplement guidelines

but

> cleanse periodically? The weight loss issue is also a concern,

since

> I am already underweight and have lost more during the cleansing.

>

> Best wishes to One Love and the group.

>

> Steve

> UK

[Guest guest]

Why do you think you haven't seen improvement after the seventh cleanse? Is

there anyone out there who can say this has cured their rosacea other than One

love?

[Guest guest]

Greetings Steve

 

I am glad to hear you have been employing the protocol

as recommended. Like Andreas suggests, it is best to

continue cleansing every 2 to 3 weeks until no more

stones are passed.

 

The low number of stones from your 7th cleanse

indicates some blockage that will clear with continued

cleansing. Also it is recommended to follow the diet

guidelines as closely as possbile during the cleansing

process. If low weight is an issue, then I would

modify the diet. Please see prior posts regarding

this.

 

I admire your patience to see this through. The

improvement in your flushing indicates progress. The

continued removal of heat and toxins will bring

further progress. You can do it Steve!

 

OneLove

 

 

Steve Sharp <steve_sharp12 wrote:

 

> Hello everyone

>

> I have just completed my 7th liver cleanse, 4 months

> on from my 1st

> and am now wondering if and when I should stop

> cleansing every 3

> weeks. Andreas Moritz recommends continuing

> cleansing until no

> further stones are expelled. This 7th cleanse has

> produced very few

> stones, and those that it did were very small (no

> pea sized as at the

> beginning).

>

> I have noticed an improvement in the flushing, but

> not in the

> appearance of the skin so far, but following the

> food guidelines may

> be reason. I avoid all the heat producing and

> congesting foods as

> recommended as far as possible, but I possibly eat

> too much fruit and

> occasionally other foods not in the favour list of

> the pitta diet.

> Maybe damp heat is the problem?

>

> My question is: should I continue with the cleansing

> any further or

> simply stick more rigidly to the food and supplement

> guidelines but

> cleanse periodically? The weight loss issue is also

> a concern, since

> I am already underweight and have lost more during

> the cleansing.

>

> Best wishes to One Love and the group.

>

> Steve

> UK

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the advice, PC. Spots have never been a major problem for

me - it is more the telangiactasia, redness and enlarged pores that

are the problem, and these are not improving as yet.

 

I have not tried the toxin absorbing supplements with the colonic -

perhaps that is the next step. There are so many possible

interventions to experiment with, and factors that can affect

rosacea, that it is quite bewildering!

 

I'll keep persevering, though, since I have benefitted more from

following the guidelines of this group than anything else.

 

Best wishes

 

Steve

 

, " pink_cat_6 " <fminyc@i...>

wrote:

> Hi Steve,

>

> If you still have spots on your skin, you still have toxins in your

> system (the spots are places where toxins are trying to push

> through, because your colon can't handle the load). Have you done

> colonics complemented with toxin-absorbing bentonite liquid and a

> fibre? Some people use psyllium (but a few may be allergic to it).

>

> I find eating Kichadi (recipe is in the files of this news group)

> really helps in cooling down the pitta (and so does the Ayurvedic

> cleanse -- also in the files). You might have trouble finding the

> hulled mung beans, in that case use the green mung beans -- you

just

> have to cook them longer.

>

> PC

>

>

>

> , " Steve Sharp "

> <steve_sharp12@h...> wrote:

> > Hello everyone

> >

> > I have just completed my 7th liver cleanse, 4 months on from my

> 1st

> > and am now wondering if and when I should stop cleansing every 3

> > weeks. Andreas Moritz recommends continuing cleansing until no

> > further stones are expelled. This 7th cleanse has produced very

> few

> > stones, and those that it did were very small (no pea sized as at

> the

> > beginning).

> >

> > I have noticed an improvement in the flushing, but not in the

> > appearance of the skin so far, but following the food guidelines

> may

> > be reason. I avoid all the heat producing and congesting foods as

> > recommended as far as possible, but I possibly eat too much fruit

> and

> > occasionally other foods not in the favour list of the pitta

diet.

> > Maybe damp heat is the problem?

> >

> > My question is: should I continue with the cleansing any further

> or

> > simply stick more rigidly to the food and supplement guidelines

> but

> > cleanse periodically? The weight loss issue is also a concern,

> since

> > I am already underweight and have lost more during the cleansing.

> >

> > Best wishes to One Love and the group.

> >

> > Steve

> > UK

[Guest guest]

Hi One Love

 

Thanks for the advice. I would hope that the low number of stones

passed in the 7th cleanse indicates that they are almost completely

eliminated, since there have been progressively fewer expelled with

each cleanse. My concern is about going beyond 7 cleanses (has anyone

in the group cleansed more than seven times in the space of a few

months?)and of any possible side effects from consuming so large a

quantity of epsom salts.

 

With the low weight issue, would the introduction of almonds into the

diet be advisable (these are in the favour section of the pitta diet)?

 

Best wishes

 

Steve

 

 

 

, OneLove <alchematron>

wrote:

> Greetings Steve

>

> I am glad to hear you have been employing the protocol

> as recommended. Like Andreas suggests, it is best to

> continue cleansing every 2 to 3 weeks until no more

> stones are passed.

>

> The low number of stones from your 7th cleanse

> indicates some blockage that will clear with continued

> cleansing. Also it is recommended to follow the diet

> guidelines as closely as possbile during the cleansing

> process. If low weight is an issue, then I would

> modify the diet. Please see prior posts regarding

> this.

>

> I admire your patience to see this through. The

> improvement in your flushing indicates progress. The

> continued removal of heat and toxins will bring

> further progress. You can do it Steve!

>

> OneLove

>

>

> Steve Sharp <steve_sharp12@h...> wrote:

>

> > Hello everyone

> >

> > I have just completed my 7th liver cleanse, 4 months

> > on from my 1st

> > and am now wondering if and when I should stop

> > cleansing every 3

> > weeks. Andreas Moritz recommends continuing

> > cleansing until no

> > further stones are expelled. This 7th cleanse has

> > produced very few

> > stones, and those that it did were very small (no

> > pea sized as at the

> > beginning).

> >

> > I have noticed an improvement in the flushing, but

> > not in the

> > appearance of the skin so far, but following the

> > food guidelines may

> > be reason. I avoid all the heat producing and

> > congesting foods as

> > recommended as far as possible, but I possibly eat

> > too much fruit and

> > occasionally other foods not in the favour list of

> > the pitta diet.

> > Maybe damp heat is the problem?

> >

> > My question is: should I continue with the cleansing

> > any further or

> > simply stick more rigidly to the food and supplement

> > guidelines but

> > cleanse periodically? The weight loss issue is also

> > a concern, since

> > I am already underweight and have lost more during

> > the cleansing.

> >

> > Best wishes to One Love and the group.

> >

> > Steve

> > UK

[Guest guest]

, " Steve Sharp "

<steve_sharp12@h...> wrote:

My concern is about going beyond 7 cleanses (has anyone

> in the group cleansed more than seven times in the space of a few

> months?)and of any possible side effects from consuming so large a

> quantity of epsom salts.

 

Help is on the way, Steve! Have a look at this post regarding an

epsom salt substitute:

http://health./message/438

 

PC

[Guest guest]

, " Steve Sharp "

<steve_sharp12@h...> wrote:

> Thanks for the advice, PC. Spots have never been a major problem

for

> me - it is more the telangiactasia, redness and enlarged pores

that

> are the problem, and these are not improving as yet.

 

Hi Steve,

 

I do recommend more colon cleansing. It really is the key to getting

rid of skin problems. Be gentle and thorough. So, don't take a lot

fibre at once, say, and get constipated (it's very easy to do this).

Go a little at a time and if you can DO get colonics.

 

Before I learned about liver flushing I got some laser treatments

for my skin, which were great in the mid-term. That is, they cleared

me up *pretty well*, but the telangiasctasia and flat blind spots

kept returning. Once I started the liver cleansing (and I'd been

doing bowel cleansing for a while by then) they stopped! I haven't

had laser treatment in nearly a year (I discovered liver flushing

just this past February).

 

BTW, back to fibre -- I OVER did it in the past two weeks, and got a

zit. Proof of a slowed-down system. So, I can speak from experience:

easy does it, even if you think you're doing OK. Have I said, " don't

push it " ? ;-)

 

See if you can find some digestive enzymes and some all-around

essential fatty acids. All at the health food store!

 

Good luck!

 

PC

[Guest guest]

Thanks for that info PC.

 

I have also fallen into the trap of too much fibre after the

cleansing - I feel the need to eat larger amounts to compensate for

the weight loss, as I am already underweight, but the end result is

constipation and gas. I take acidophilus, but it seems to have little

effect at present, so other digestive aids would seem to be agood

idea. Was there a post on herbal laxatives some time ago?

 

How often is it sensible to colon cleanse aside from pre and post

liver cleansing? I tend to have two colonics during the week of

preparation for liver cleanse and one immediately after, and then try

to return to normal elimination, but this is when the problems begin

to arise.

 

Best wishes

 

Steve

 

, " pink_cat_6 " <fminyc@i...>

wrote:

> , " Steve Sharp "

> <steve_sharp12@h...> wrote:

> > Thanks for the advice, PC. Spots have never been a major problem

> for

> > me - it is more the telangiactasia, redness and enlarged pores

> that

> > are the problem, and these are not improving as yet.

>

> Hi Steve,

>

> I do recommend more colon cleansing. It really is the key to

getting

> rid of skin problems. Be gentle and thorough. So, don't take a lot

> fibre at once, say, and get constipated (it's very easy to do

this).

> Go a little at a time and if you can DO get colonics.

>

> Before I learned about liver flushing I got some laser treatments

> for my skin, which were great in the mid-term. That is, they

cleared

> me up *pretty well*, but the telangiasctasia and flat blind spots

> kept returning. Once I started the liver cleansing (and I'd been

> doing bowel cleansing for a while by then) they stopped! I haven't

> had laser treatment in nearly a year (I discovered liver flushing

> just this past February).

>

> BTW, back to fibre -- I OVER did it in the past two weeks, and got

a

> zit. Proof of a slowed-down system. So, I can speak from

experience:

> easy does it, even if you think you're doing OK. Have I

said, " don't

> push it " ? ;-)

>

> See if you can find some digestive enzymes and some all-around

> essential fatty acids. All at the health food store!

>

> Good luck!

>

> PC

[Guest guest]

Hi Steve,

 

I'm a whole different constitution from you. Everything works pretty

quickly on me, it seems: liver cleansing quickly cleared my skin and

has gone a long way in helping me with digestion issues. My only

problem is being a tight a**!

 

Have you looked up your Ayurvedic body type? This is a good place to

start to figure out what it is you should eat and should avoid

eating for your particular constitution. Just do a search

on " Ayurvedic type " and you'll soon find a few " quizzes " .

 

The redness on your face makes you sound like part pitta. Your

inability to gain weight also makes you part vata. Do you eat meals

at regular times? You should. For one thing it calms pitta, for

another it might help you hold on to some weight. But it is

important to find out which foods are the ones you should be eating.

 

I did really well skin-wise when I did a colonic just before my

liver flush and just after (e.g., colonic Thursday, flush Friday,

colonic Saturday). To soften up stones I use Chanca Piedra and Apple

Juice. This simple combo works really well for me. This year I've

been doing liver flushes pretty regularly, so I've been having

colonics pretty regularly, too. More so than before. But I feel I

still have more old waste from various organs to eliminate.

 

(also, let me add in here that the Ayurvedic cleanse works well on

me, too. It really melts the redness out of me.)

 

You said it was after you were trying to return to regular

elimiation after each flush that you had problems. Did you get

constipated, you mean? Have you done castor oil packs? These are

very calming and healing. I put my over my belly and over my liver.

the packs do help elimiation. I'm not sure how it does it, but it

does!

 

I can't recall a post about herbal laxatives here. I find magnesium

products can help. There's something you can find on line called

Natural Calm, which is a magnesium regulator. You take it any time

of day.

 

Finally, if you feel something is still lacking, you might want to

look into homeopathy. Again, you can check on line about it. There

are " quizzes " to help you determine what you need. Or you can see a

practitioner.

 

And drink lots of pure water!

 

Regards,

 

PC