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Dear All,

 

I am new to this group and very eager to hear about the results of

the liver cleanse from anyone who has tried it.

Also, Has anyone done any energy-healing work on themselves or with a

practitioner?

 

I absolutely know my energy is too hot, too high. I am trying to

heal, but there are some trauma issues and I'd like to know if anyone

else has approached healing rosacea this way.

God Bless you all

Namaste

Katherine

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Hi Katherine,

 

I have done five liver cleanses so far and have changed my diet. It has really

helped alot. I don't look like I have rosacea. I still want to keep doing the

cleanses for health sake, but they do work with some patience and lifestyle

changes.

 

Cesar

 

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aidans1mama

Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:26 PM

Liver Cleanse Results & Energy Healing?

 

 

Dear All,

 

I am new to this group and very eager to hear about the results of

the liver cleanse from anyone who has tried it.

Also, Has anyone done any energy-healing work on themselves or with a

practitioner?

 

I absolutely know my energy is too hot, too high. I am trying to

heal, but there are some trauma issues and I'd like to know if anyone

else has approached healing rosacea this way.

God Bless you all

Namaste

Katherine

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Dear Cesar

 

Congratulations! I am glad your patience and willingness to try a natural

approach has brought results. I am sure your experience will inspire others

towards healing.

 

All the best

 

OneLove

 

 

 

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Cesar

 

Sunday, January 18, 2004 7:52 PM

Liver Cleanse Results & Energy Healing?

 

 

Hi Katherine,

 

I have done five liver cleanses so far and have changed my diet. It has really

helped alot. I don't look like I have rosacea. I still want to keep doing the

cleanses for health sake, but they do work with some patience and lifestyle

changes.

 

Cesar

 

Original Message

aidans1mama

 

Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:26 PM

Liver Cleanse Results & Energy Healing?

 

 

Dear All,

 

I am new to this group and very eager to hear about the results of

the liver cleanse from anyone who has tried it.

Also, Has anyone done any energy-healing work on themselves or with a

practitioner?

 

I absolutely know my energy is too hot, too high. I am trying to

heal, but there are some trauma issues and I'd like to know if anyone

else has approached healing rosacea this way.

God Bless you all

Namaste

Katherine

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Would you be so kind as to send us before and after pictures of yourself? I

did liver cleanses and changed my diet and it made no difference. Rosacea is

a vascular disorder and has nothing to do with the liver so I am curious how

this is helping your Rosacea. Thanks.

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Welcome Katherine

 

My experience with internal cleansing has been posted to this group which I

am sure you have read. Regarding energy healing work, I did one Chi Nei

Tsang session for my liver in 2002. It did help in releasing old traumatic

emotions. I then moved and currently there is no practitioner where I live.

 

I also tried the internal organs healing sounds, but found the Liver Cleanse

and Ayurvedic Cleanse gave the most noticeable results. If you feel inclined

to add Chi Nei Tsang and the healing sounds, I do recommend them.

Perhaps more accessible for everyone is simply to walk at least fifteen

minutes each day.

 

All the best

 

OneLove

 

 

 

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Dear All,

 

I am new to this group and very eager to hear about the results of

the liver cleanse from anyone who has tried it.

Also, Has anyone done any energy-healing work on themselves or with a

practitioner?

 

I absolutely know my energy is too hot, too high. I am trying to

heal, but there are some trauma issues and I'd like to know if anyone

else has approached healing rosacea this way.

God Bless you all

Namaste

Katherine

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Welcome

 

Can you mention how many liver cleanses you have done so far? Also are

you doing the cleanses and diet as recommended for this group?

 

I assume you are reflecting the view of Dr. Geoffrey Nase who says rosacea

is a vascular disorder and has nothing to do with the liver. Dr. Nase is using

the western model of analysis which is incomplete in understanding.

 

From the viewpoint of eastern medicine, yes rosacea is a vascular disorder,

but the vascular system of the face is inflamed due to internal heat and

congestion which is directly related to the blood and liver.

 

Kind regards

 

OneLove

 

 

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Would you be so kind as to send us before and after pictures of yourself? 

I did liver cleanses and changed my diet and it made no difference. Rosacea

is a vascular disorder and has nothing to do with the liver so I am curious

howthis is helping your Rosacea.  Thanks. 

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Thanks for replying. Can you explain why studies of rosacea livers do not

yield any pathology? The bottom line in this disorder is to resume a normal

life and feel good again. Why can't one person show me pictures if this cleanse

and diet work just as Geoffrey Nase has shown in his book. I am a proponent

of Eastern Medicine, but before the manifestation of this disease, I wasn't

trying to use it for anything so obvious. I did homeopathy to strengthen my

constitution, etc. but with Rosacea, it's either there or it's not. Please give

me some empirical evidence so I can believe in this because I want to. Thank

you very much for your time...I DO appreciate it! Andrea

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Hi Andrea

 

Can I explain why studies of rosacea livers do not yield any pathology? As

mentioned, western medicine is incomplete in understanding physiology.

 

Why are there no before and after pictures? At the time I had rosacea, I was

not concerned about proving this process. I should have had a doctor

document my experience with pictures. Perhaps someone in this group will

do that.

 

I would suggest that you prove this process to yourself by following the

recommendations for this group as closely as possible until you see results.

Time and patience is key.

 

All the best

 

OneLove

 

 

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Thanks for replying. Can you explain why studies of rosacea livers do not

yield any pathology? The bottom line in this disorder is to resume a normal

life and feel good again. Why can't one person show me pictures if this

cleanseand diet work just as Geoffrey Nase has shown in his book. I am a

proponent

of Eastern Medicine, but before the manifestation of this disease, I wasn't

trying to use it for anything so obvious. I did homeopathy to strengthen my

constitution, etc. but with Rosacea, it's either there or it's not. Please give

me some empirical evidence so I can believe in this because I want to. Thank

you very much for your time...I DO appreciate it! Andrea

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--I have had mixed results from the 3 liver cleanses and 1 kidney

cleanse.

The positive changes are:

1. My breathing is normal now. I've had problems with my

breathing for 15 years; which is when I first when to the doctors

about it. After my first cleanse I could breathe again; and 7

months later I'm still fine. 2. No more monthly cramping.3. My

concentration is much improved. 4. I have had a sharp pain over

my gallbladder area for about 8 years. A surgeon wanted to take

my gb out, but another doctor said not a good idea. So no more

pain for the last 5 months. 5. I have also had a sharp pain that

would come and go over the right side of my colon area. That is

gone.

 

Not so good changes: I'm always sick. I was going to do the

cleanses once a month, but can't because since starting them

I've had colds, and the last flu I had lasted 8 weeks. Never used

to get sick like that before. And I've had bad heartburn that I never

used to have. Don't know why or if it's related, but I think so.

MB

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Mighty Bubbles,

 

You did so much! Just like me you'll do anything to rid yourself of

rosacea.

 

I haven't done the liver cleanse recommended by One Love,

specifically, I've done another cleanse (and it may well be the same

one)a few times over the years. It involves olive oil and oranges. I

did it as " lightly " as I could, yet had good results included some

of the problems you mentioned going away: GB-ish pain; also fuzzy

thinking.

 

Regarding your heartburn, do you know whether you have a hiatal

hernia? This can be dealt with pretty efficiently at a

chiropractor's. I had a hiatal hernia after surgery. I can't tell

you how many of those antacid candy-looking pills I ate in a week.

Then I went to my chiro and mentioned my acid stomach. He said that

I must have a hiatal hernia and said he would fix it there and then.

He physically, through my skin, mind, dragged my stomach back into

place. Within ten minutes all the acid had drained and my stomach

was making happy gurgling sounds. 100% cure.

 

Regarding the rosacea, I too had it even after *years* of colon and

liver cleanses. I got some outside help and am now 99% clear. It

might be that there is some unbudging bacteria in your facial skin.

I had Intense Pulsed Light (put it into your search engine)

treatment, which is something that immediately cooks the broken

blood vessels of rosacea so they disappear (don't quote my most

scientific language, please! <g>) You need several sessions a few

weeks apart. But what I noted was that after each session, I'd get a

head cold.

 

I deducted that this must be my enemy bacteria falling

into my bloodstream and having its last hurrah. (I can't say this is

scientifically sound. But it happened to me each and every time,

except the last time when I beefed myself up with all kinds of

immunity-enchancing remedies.)Very long story short, my skin

returned to " troubled normal " . A month ago I started using a topical

commercial product (over the counter) and I'm clearing up rapidly.

I'll tell you what the product was if I am allowed to.

 

I haven't got before and afters. I wouldn't want to post my befores,

anyway. We're all built differently in this department.

 

Anyway, while your liver cleanses have helped (I believe) you

probably have something going on in the very top layer of your skin

that needs a little topical indulgence. Once you do this, perhaps

like me you will see clear skin being revealed: all your hard liver

work finally shining through.

 

Regarding your colds, there were years when I had many colds in a

row, too. I have found that bombarding a rising cold with

homeopathics and herbs has done me a world of good. Also, get lots

of sleep. Following those rules, I didn't get the flu that's been

everywhere (and I always would). Knock wood! (Maybe a cinnamon tree)

 

Good luck!

 

PC

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Greetings MB

 

I would assume your flu and heartburn is due to dislodging deep seated

toxins. Don't forget the all important pre and post cleansing. You might

consider getting diagnosed by a doctor of Chinese medicine or Ayurveda.

Pulse and tongue analysis will determine the precise imbalance you are

experiencing. Consulting with Andreas Moritz would be a good idea too.

Keep up the good work!

 

OneLove

 

 

Original Message

 

I have had mixed results from the 3 liver cleanses and 1 kidney

cleanse.

The positive changes are:

1. My breathing is normal now. I've had problems with my

breathing for 15 years; which is when I first when to the doctors

about it. After my first cleanse I could breathe again; and 7

months later I'm still fine. 2. No more monthly cramping.3. My

concentration is much improved. 4. I have had a sharp pain over

my gallbladder area for about 8 years. A surgeon wanted to take

my gb out, but another doctor said not a good idea. So no more

pain for the last 5 months. 5. I have also had a sharp pain that

would come and go over the right side of my colon area. That is

gone.

 

Not so good changes: I'm always sick. I was going to do the

cleanses once a month, but can't because since starting them

I've had colds, and the last flu I had lasted 8 weeks. Never used

to get sick like that before. And I've had bad heartburn that I never

used to have. Don't know why or if it's related, but I think so.

MB

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Hi PC

 

If you do the cleanses specifically as outlined for this group on a regular

basis, I am confident you will be begin to see results.

 

There are many other types of cleanses out there which I do not recommend. I

have addressed this issue in a previous post here

http://health./message/6

 

Kind regards

 

OneLove

 

Original Message

 

Mighty Bubbles,

You did so much! Just like me you'll do anything to rid yourself of

rosacea.

 

I haven't done the liver cleanse recommended by One Love,

specifically, I've done another cleanse (and it may well be the same

one)a few times over the years. It involves olive oil and oranges. I

did it as " lightly " as I could, yet had good results included some

of the problems you mentioned going away: GB-ish pain; also fuzzy

thinking.

 

Regarding your heartburn, do you know whether you have a hiatal

hernia? This can be dealt with pretty efficiently at a

chiropractor's. I had a hiatal hernia after surgery. I can't tell

you how many of those antacid candy-looking pills I ate in a week.

Then I went to my chiro and mentioned my acid stomach. He said that

I must have a hiatal hernia and said he would fix it there and then.

He physically, through my skin, mind, dragged my stomach back into

place. Within ten minutes all the acid had drained and my stomach

was making happy gurgling sounds. 100% cure.

 

Regarding the rosacea, I too had it even after *years* of colon and

liver cleanses. I got some outside help and am now 99% clear. It

might be that there is some unbudging bacteria in your facial skin.

I had Intense Pulsed Light (put it into your search engine)

treatment, which is something that immediately cooks the broken

blood vessels of rosacea so they disappear (don't quote my most

scientific language, please! <g>) You need several sessions a few

weeks apart. But what I noted was that after each session, I'd get a

head cold.

 

I deducted that this must be my enemy bacteria falling

into my bloodstream and having its last hurrah. (I can't say this is

scientifically sound. But it happened to me each and every time,

except the last time when I beefed myself up with all kinds of

immunity-enchancing remedies.)Very long story short, my skin

returned to " troubled normal " . A month ago I started using a topical

commercial product (over the counter) and I'm clearing up rapidly.

I'll tell you what the product was if I am allowed to.

 

I haven't got before and afters. I wouldn't want to post my befores,

anyway. We're all built differently in this department.

 

Anyway, while your liver cleanses have helped (I believe) you

probably have something going on in the very top layer of your skin

that needs a little topical indulgence. Once you do this, perhaps

like me you will see clear skin being revealed: all your hard liver

work finally shining through.

 

Regarding your colds, there were years when I had many colds in a

row, too. I have found that bombarding a rising cold with

homeopathics and herbs has done me a world of good. Also, get lots

of sleep. Following those rules, I didn't get the flu that's been

everywhere (and I always would). Knock wood! (Maybe a cinnamon tree)

 

Good luck!

 

PC

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