Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 Dear All, I am new to this group and very eager to hear about the results of the liver cleanse from anyone who has tried it. Also, Has anyone done any energy-healing work on themselves or with a practitioner? I absolutely know my energy is too hot, too high. I am trying to heal, but there are some trauma issues and I'd like to know if anyone else has approached healing rosacea this way. God Bless you all Namaste Katherine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Hi Katherine, I have done five liver cleanses so far and have changed my diet. It has really helped alot. I don't look like I have rosacea. I still want to keep doing the cleanses for health sake, but they do work with some patience and lifestyle changes. Cesar Original Message aidans1mama Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:26 PM Liver Cleanse Results & Energy Healing? Dear All, I am new to this group and very eager to hear about the results of the liver cleanse from anyone who has tried it. Also, Has anyone done any energy-healing work on themselves or with a practitioner? I absolutely know my energy is too hot, too high. I am trying to heal, but there are some trauma issues and I'd like to know if anyone else has approached healing rosacea this way. God Bless you all Namaste Katherine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Dear Cesar Congratulations! I am glad your patience and willingness to try a natural approach has brought results. I am sure your experience will inspire others towards healing. All the best OneLove Original Message Cesar Sunday, January 18, 2004 7:52 PM Liver Cleanse Results & Energy Healing? Hi Katherine, I have done five liver cleanses so far and have changed my diet. It has really helped alot. I don't look like I have rosacea. I still want to keep doing the cleanses for health sake, but they do work with some patience and lifestyle changes. Cesar Original Message aidans1mama Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:26 PM Liver Cleanse Results & Energy Healing? Dear All, I am new to this group and very eager to hear about the results of the liver cleanse from anyone who has tried it. Also, Has anyone done any energy-healing work on themselves or with a practitioner? I absolutely know my energy is too hot, too high. I am trying to heal, but there are some trauma issues and I'd like to know if anyone else has approached healing rosacea this way. God Bless you all Namaste Katherine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Would you be so kind as to send us before and after pictures of yourself? I did liver cleanses and changed my diet and it made no difference. Rosacea is a vascular disorder and has nothing to do with the liver so I am curious how this is helping your Rosacea. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 Welcome Katherine My experience with internal cleansing has been posted to this group which I am sure you have read. Regarding energy healing work, I did one Chi Nei Tsang session for my liver in 2002. It did help in releasing old traumatic emotions. I then moved and currently there is no practitioner where I live. I also tried the internal organs healing sounds, but found the Liver Cleanse and Ayurvedic Cleanse gave the most noticeable results. If you feel inclined to add Chi Nei Tsang and the healing sounds, I do recommend them. Perhaps more accessible for everyone is simply to walk at least fifteen minutes each day. All the best OneLove Original Mesage Dear All, I am new to this group and very eager to hear about the results of the liver cleanse from anyone who has tried it. Also, Has anyone done any energy-healing work on themselves or with a practitioner? I absolutely know my energy is too hot, too high. I am trying to heal, but there are some trauma issues and I'd like to know if anyone else has approached healing rosacea this way. God Bless you all Namaste Katherine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 Welcome Can you mention how many liver cleanses you have done so far? Also are you doing the cleanses and diet as recommended for this group? I assume you are reflecting the view of Dr. Geoffrey Nase who says rosacea is a vascular disorder and has nothing to do with the liver. Dr. Nase is using the western model of analysis which is incomplete in understanding. From the viewpoint of eastern medicine, yes rosacea is a vascular disorder, but the vascular system of the face is inflamed due to internal heat and congestion which is directly related to the blood and liver. Kind regards OneLove Original Message Would you be so kind as to send us before and after pictures of yourself? I did liver cleanses and changed my diet and it made no difference. Rosacea is a vascular disorder and has nothing to do with the liver so I am curious howthis is helping your Rosacea. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 Thanks for replying. Can you explain why studies of rosacea livers do not yield any pathology? The bottom line in this disorder is to resume a normal life and feel good again. Why can't one person show me pictures if this cleanse and diet work just as Geoffrey Nase has shown in his book. I am a proponent of Eastern Medicine, but before the manifestation of this disease, I wasn't trying to use it for anything so obvious. I did homeopathy to strengthen my constitution, etc. but with Rosacea, it's either there or it's not. Please give me some empirical evidence so I can believe in this because I want to. Thank you very much for your time...I DO appreciate it! Andrea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 Hi Andrea Can I explain why studies of rosacea livers do not yield any pathology? As mentioned, western medicine is incomplete in understanding physiology. Why are there no before and after pictures? At the time I had rosacea, I was not concerned about proving this process. I should have had a doctor document my experience with pictures. Perhaps someone in this group will do that. I would suggest that you prove this process to yourself by following the recommendations for this group as closely as possible until you see results. Time and patience is key. All the best OneLove Original Message Thanks for replying. Can you explain why studies of rosacea livers do not yield any pathology? The bottom line in this disorder is to resume a normal life and feel good again. Why can't one person show me pictures if this cleanseand diet work just as Geoffrey Nase has shown in his book. I am a proponent of Eastern Medicine, but before the manifestation of this disease, I wasn't trying to use it for anything so obvious. I did homeopathy to strengthen my constitution, etc. but with Rosacea, it's either there or it's not. Please give me some empirical evidence so I can believe in this because I want to. Thank you very much for your time...I DO appreciate it! Andrea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 --I have had mixed results from the 3 liver cleanses and 1 kidney cleanse. The positive changes are: 1. My breathing is normal now. I've had problems with my breathing for 15 years; which is when I first when to the doctors about it. After my first cleanse I could breathe again; and 7 months later I'm still fine. 2. No more monthly cramping.3. My concentration is much improved. 4. I have had a sharp pain over my gallbladder area for about 8 years. A surgeon wanted to take my gb out, but another doctor said not a good idea. So no more pain for the last 5 months. 5. I have also had a sharp pain that would come and go over the right side of my colon area. That is gone. Not so good changes: I'm always sick. I was going to do the cleanses once a month, but can't because since starting them I've had colds, and the last flu I had lasted 8 weeks. Never used to get sick like that before. And I've had bad heartburn that I never used to have. Don't know why or if it's related, but I think so. MB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 ---Oh, forgot to add to my last post that so far rosacea has not been helped. But I'm still trying with the cleanses. MB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Mighty Bubbles, You did so much! Just like me you'll do anything to rid yourself of rosacea. I haven't done the liver cleanse recommended by One Love, specifically, I've done another cleanse (and it may well be the same one)a few times over the years. It involves olive oil and oranges. I did it as " lightly " as I could, yet had good results included some of the problems you mentioned going away: GB-ish pain; also fuzzy thinking. Regarding your heartburn, do you know whether you have a hiatal hernia? This can be dealt with pretty efficiently at a chiropractor's. I had a hiatal hernia after surgery. I can't tell you how many of those antacid candy-looking pills I ate in a week. Then I went to my chiro and mentioned my acid stomach. He said that I must have a hiatal hernia and said he would fix it there and then. He physically, through my skin, mind, dragged my stomach back into place. Within ten minutes all the acid had drained and my stomach was making happy gurgling sounds. 100% cure. Regarding the rosacea, I too had it even after *years* of colon and liver cleanses. I got some outside help and am now 99% clear. It might be that there is some unbudging bacteria in your facial skin. I had Intense Pulsed Light (put it into your search engine) treatment, which is something that immediately cooks the broken blood vessels of rosacea so they disappear (don't quote my most scientific language, please! <g>) You need several sessions a few weeks apart. But what I noted was that after each session, I'd get a head cold. I deducted that this must be my enemy bacteria falling into my bloodstream and having its last hurrah. (I can't say this is scientifically sound. But it happened to me each and every time, except the last time when I beefed myself up with all kinds of immunity-enchancing remedies.)Very long story short, my skin returned to " troubled normal " . A month ago I started using a topical commercial product (over the counter) and I'm clearing up rapidly. I'll tell you what the product was if I am allowed to. I haven't got before and afters. I wouldn't want to post my befores, anyway. We're all built differently in this department. Anyway, while your liver cleanses have helped (I believe) you probably have something going on in the very top layer of your skin that needs a little topical indulgence. Once you do this, perhaps like me you will see clear skin being revealed: all your hard liver work finally shining through. Regarding your colds, there were years when I had many colds in a row, too. I have found that bombarding a rising cold with homeopathics and herbs has done me a world of good. Also, get lots of sleep. Following those rules, I didn't get the flu that's been everywhere (and I always would). Knock wood! (Maybe a cinnamon tree) Good luck! PC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Greetings MB I would assume your flu and heartburn is due to dislodging deep seated toxins. Don't forget the all important pre and post cleansing. You might consider getting diagnosed by a doctor of Chinese medicine or Ayurveda. Pulse and tongue analysis will determine the precise imbalance you are experiencing. Consulting with Andreas Moritz would be a good idea too. Keep up the good work! OneLove Original Message I have had mixed results from the 3 liver cleanses and 1 kidney cleanse. The positive changes are: 1. My breathing is normal now. I've had problems with my breathing for 15 years; which is when I first when to the doctors about it. After my first cleanse I could breathe again; and 7 months later I'm still fine. 2. No more monthly cramping.3. My concentration is much improved. 4. I have had a sharp pain over my gallbladder area for about 8 years. A surgeon wanted to take my gb out, but another doctor said not a good idea. So no more pain for the last 5 months. 5. I have also had a sharp pain that would come and go over the right side of my colon area. That is gone. Not so good changes: I'm always sick. I was going to do the cleanses once a month, but can't because since starting them I've had colds, and the last flu I had lasted 8 weeks. Never used to get sick like that before. And I've had bad heartburn that I never used to have. Don't know why or if it's related, but I think so. MB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 Hi PC If you do the cleanses specifically as outlined for this group on a regular basis, I am confident you will be begin to see results. There are many other types of cleanses out there which I do not recommend. I have addressed this issue in a previous post here http://health./message/6 Kind regards OneLove Original Message Mighty Bubbles, You did so much! Just like me you'll do anything to rid yourself of rosacea. I haven't done the liver cleanse recommended by One Love, specifically, I've done another cleanse (and it may well be the same one)a few times over the years. It involves olive oil and oranges. I did it as " lightly " as I could, yet had good results included some of the problems you mentioned going away: GB-ish pain; also fuzzy thinking. Regarding your heartburn, do you know whether you have a hiatal hernia? This can be dealt with pretty efficiently at a chiropractor's. I had a hiatal hernia after surgery. I can't tell you how many of those antacid candy-looking pills I ate in a week. Then I went to my chiro and mentioned my acid stomach. He said that I must have a hiatal hernia and said he would fix it there and then. He physically, through my skin, mind, dragged my stomach back into place. Within ten minutes all the acid had drained and my stomach was making happy gurgling sounds. 100% cure. Regarding the rosacea, I too had it even after *years* of colon and liver cleanses. I got some outside help and am now 99% clear. It might be that there is some unbudging bacteria in your facial skin. I had Intense Pulsed Light (put it into your search engine) treatment, which is something that immediately cooks the broken blood vessels of rosacea so they disappear (don't quote my most scientific language, please! <g>) You need several sessions a few weeks apart. But what I noted was that after each session, I'd get a head cold. I deducted that this must be my enemy bacteria falling into my bloodstream and having its last hurrah. (I can't say this is scientifically sound. But it happened to me each and every time, except the last time when I beefed myself up with all kinds of immunity-enchancing remedies.)Very long story short, my skin returned to " troubled normal " . A month ago I started using a topical commercial product (over the counter) and I'm clearing up rapidly. I'll tell you what the product was if I am allowed to. I haven't got before and afters. I wouldn't want to post my befores, anyway. We're all built differently in this department. Anyway, while your liver cleanses have helped (I believe) you probably have something going on in the very top layer of your skin that needs a little topical indulgence. Once you do this, perhaps like me you will see clear skin being revealed: all your hard liver work finally shining through. Regarding your colds, there were years when I had many colds in a row, too. I have found that bombarding a rising cold with homeopathics and herbs has done me a world of good. Also, get lots of sleep. Following those rules, I didn't get the flu that's been everywhere (and I always would). Knock wood! (Maybe a cinnamon tree) Good luck! PC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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