The debate on autism.

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Dear ______, Namaste. I agree with you for being objective just as I am appreciative about __'s mails. We do not have enough proof that the MMR causes autism though I think we have enough pointers to that direction. The MMR is somehow triggering the autism as it reacts with the previous vaccines in certain sections of the children. What makes vaccination the prime target that it directly injects known and proven neurotoxins and other dangerous substances into the blood of infants and thus is the most probable suspect for various neurological disorders in children. Children MAY be affected by the environment but they can SURELY be affected by the vaccines. Another thing is that many of these neurological problems are irreversible and therefore MUST BE PREVENTED by any means possible instead of accepting them. Thus we call for safer vaccines, safer vaccination procedures,

and eliminating susceptible children from the ambit of vaccinations. We are irritated that our genuine concerns are not being addressed. We really do not understand why. Is informed consent before being injected with toxins an illogical demand? Vaccines are KNOWN to cause deaths and damages. Then why should not the vaccines be tested by a reliable third party instead of leaving the onus on the manufacturers and their funded researchers? Why should the supposed studies declare that vaccines are completely safe despite having nearly two million (1.95 to be precise) recorded adverse affect cases in the US database alone? Cases that are said to represent 3 to 10% of the real figures? In India, on NDTV, health officials have admitted that vaccine after effects are "unusually high" in India. This is too horrible a fact to be disregarded as "normal". The mainstream doctors themselves have called for

independant vaccine tests while the health secretary and a certain section of doctors say such tests are unnecessary. Such disregard for safety cannot be condoned. I agree with you that; 1. Safe detoxification procedures should be conducted on autistic children as early as possible.2. Government should compensate and set up funds for the treatment and rehabilitation of autistic children.3. Government should look into all possible sources for the current autism epidemic. But you must realise that the government will not act unless a substantial part of victims and their parents pressurise the government into acting. I therefore shoot regular letters to the concerned officials. I cannot really do more as I am sick, with very low energy levels. I have noticed that some NGOs are more

interested in the disability aspect rather than on the prevention, mitigation and probable cure aspect. This is but human nature. No one would like his source of employment and income to dry up. Therefore I emphasize on the prevention, detoxification and the search for a cure through holistic therapies or otherwise. In my case had I not read and utilised my knowledge on these aspects I would not be here writing this mail. Being an ASD victim I know what goes on in the victims mind. I know that despite all the outward signs there is a very alert and keen mind within that seeks a complete cure and not merely rehabilitation. And I wish to inform you that autism cases are now 1:150 in the UK and that ASD spectrum is broadening by the day embracing many neurological disorders that a wide variety of the population suffers from. Like, not

remembering names or faces, brain fag, mood swings and sudden violent behaviour, repetative actions and fidgetyness, trembling sensations, crawling sensations on/under the skin, electric shock like sensations, abnormal shyness and abnormal introverts, fear of strangers, deep depressions and suicidal tendency, many phobias, anxiety, panic and stress attacks, irritable bowel syndrome, escapism, too much attention to details and reacting abnormally to even slight variations, criminal tendencies and so on. All the above can be caused by neurotoxins. The above are only behavioural disorders. Physical disorders can be paralysis, Alzheimers, Parkinsons, various autoimmune disorders, and of course the various new "syndromes" that are being declared everyday. We cannot remain complacent in the face of these dangers. We must fight against chemicals, toxins in all their forms and sources as we are clearly a

poisoned generation. I also know why many parents are shy of these issues. They do not wish to antagonise their doctors by raising/discussing such issues. However if those doctors are really healers then they should encourage such queries instead of frowning upon them. I do not believe that all our doctors are rigid, I personally know many who are extremely devoted to their profession and better than angels. I wish all of them be angels and think about their patients. Let us not be cowed down by anybody. I have received my share of opposition and still do, but when the opposition comes to know how determined I am to pursue my goals, they usually back off. Regards,Jagannath. @, wrote:>> Lot of angst, understandably has been shared

about the vaccination/MMR issue and it being the cause for increasing incidence in Autism. I "Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life but the conquest of life by the power of the spirit." - Aurobindo.

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Dear sir,

Can there be an alternative medium for vaccination devoid of

Mercury?

Why chelation therapy with doublebind trials carried out here?

My daughter sufferred from after effects of vaccination due to

improper steriliasation.She got schizophrenia at the age of 12.she

is stable but is under medication.i used to wonder about the after

effects of vaccination as being one of the causes.

a worthy cause to investigate

 

 

 

, Jagannath Chatterjee

<jagchat01 wrote:

>

> Dear ______,

>

> Namaste. I agree with you for being objective just as I am

appreciative about __'s mails. We do not have enough proof that the

MMR causes autism though I think we have enough pointers to that

direction. The MMR is somehow triggering the autism as it reacts

with the previous vaccines in certain sections of the children.

>

> What makes vaccination the prime target that it directly injects

known and proven neurotoxins and other dangerous substances into the

blood of infants and thus is the most probable suspect for various

neurological disorders in children. Children MAY be affected by the

environment but they can SURELY be affected by the vaccines.

>

> Another thing is that many of these neurological problems are

irreversible and therefore MUST BE PREVENTED by any means possible

instead of accepting them. Thus we call for safer vaccines, safer

vaccination procedures, and eliminating susceptible children from

the ambit of vaccinations.

>

> We are irritated that our genuine concerns are not being

addressed. We really do not understand why. Is informed consent

before being injected with toxins an illogical demand? Vaccines are

KNOWN to cause deaths and damages. Then why should not the vaccines

be tested by a reliable third party instead of leaving the onus on

the manufacturers and their funded researchers? Why should the

supposed studies declare that vaccines are completely safe despite

having nearly two million (1.95 to be precise) recorded adverse

affect cases in the US database alone? Cases that are said to

represent 3 to 10% of the real figures?

>

> In India, on NDTV, health officials have admitted that vaccine

after effects are " unusually high " in India. This is too horrible a

fact to be disregarded as " normal " . The mainstream doctors

themselves have called for independant vaccine tests while the

health secretary and a certain section of doctors say such tests are

unnecessary.

>

> Such disregard for safety cannot be condoned.

>

> I agree with you that;

>

> 1. Safe detoxification procedures should be conducted on

autistic children as early as possible.

> 2. Government should compensate and set up funds for the treatment

and rehabilitation of autistic children.

> 3. Government should look into all possible sources for the

current autism epidemic.

>

> But you must realise that the government will not act unless a

substantial part of victims and their parents pressurise the

government into acting.

>

> I therefore shoot regular letters to the concerned officials. I

cannot really do more as I am sick, with very low energy levels.

>

> I have noticed that some NGOs are more interested in the

disability aspect rather than on the prevention, mitigation and

probable cure aspect. This is but human nature. No one would like

his source of employment and income to dry up.

>

> Therefore I emphasize on the prevention, detoxification and the

search for a cure through holistic therapies or otherwise. In my

case had I not read and utilised my knowledge on these aspects I

would not be here writing this mail.

>

> Being an ASD victim I know what goes on in the victims mind. I

know that despite all the outward signs there is a very alert and

keen mind within that seeks a complete cure and not merely

rehabilitation.

>

> And I wish to inform you that autism cases are now 1:150 in the

UK and that ASD spectrum is broadening by the day embracing many

neurological disorders that a wide variety of the population suffers

from.

>

> Like, not remembering names or faces, brain fag, mood swings and

sudden violent behaviour, repetative actions and fidgetyness,

trembling sensations, crawling sensations on/under the skin,

electric shock like sensations, abnormal shyness and abnormal

introverts, fear of strangers, deep depressions and suicidal

tendency, many phobias, anxiety, panic and stress attacks, irritable

bowel syndrome, escapism, too much attention to details and reacting

abnormally to even slight variations, criminal tendencies and so on.

>

> All the above can be caused by neurotoxins. The above are only

behavioural disorders. Physical disorders can be paralysis,

Alzheimers, Parkinsons, various autoimmune disorders, and of course

the various new " syndromes " that are being declared everyday.

>

> We cannot remain complacent in the face of these dangers. We

must fight against chemicals, toxins in all their forms and sources

as we are clearly a poisoned generation.

>

> I also know why many parents are shy of these issues. They do

not wish to antagonise their doctors by raising/discussing such

issues. However if those doctors are really healers then they should

encourage such queries instead of frowning upon them. I do not

believe that all our doctors are rigid, I personally know many who

are extremely devoted to their profession and better than angels. I

wish all of them be angels and think about their patients.

>

> Let us not be cowed down by anybody. I have received my share of

opposition and still do, but when the opposition comes to know how

determined I am to pursue my goals, they usually back off.

>

> Regards,

> Jagannath.

>

> @, wrote:

> >

> > Lot of angst, understandably has been shared about the

vaccination/MMR issue and it being the cause for increasing

incidence in Autism. I

>

>

> " Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life

but the conquest of life by the power of the spirit. " - Aurobindo.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls.

Great rates starting at 1 & cent;/min.

>

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Dear Samuhananda ji,

 

Namaste. It does not appear that vaccines can be mercury free. This

is because mercury is used both in the process of vaccine

preparation as well as a serum decontaminant in the final product.

 

Even in " mercury free " vaccines now being sold in the US, the

mercury content is not insignificant.

 

I think naturopathic/ayurvedic detoxification will have a greater

reach then chelation.

 

Chelation involves a procedure that is used primarily for lead

detoxification. There is also a medicine called Cilantra that

supposedly draws out the mercury. However in this processes there is

the danger that the mercury in the body may merely shift to another

place within the body instead of being fully expelled.

 

Do you remember your child showing any adverse reaction after any

vaccine she received? Even crying and being restless for a long time

after being vaccinated could also be a problem symptom.

 

Nobody can definitely say what vaccines can do simply because no

detailed or long time tests have been carried out. But considering

the contents, studied individually by chemists, the damage could be

far reaching. Nobody has yet combined the contents and tested them.

As per Dr Mark Sircus, mercury can become 30 times more toxic if

accompanied with aluminium, therefore a lot of tests with

permutations and combinations are required, tests that will perhaps

never be conducted.

 

Vaccine activists in the US are trying to do tests with private

funding. The results will never be accepted by the scientific

community but at least we can know for sure what the dangers are.

 

Till such tests are conducted the doctors against vaccines admit

that they are merely speculating. But circumstantial evidence do

point to possible grave dangers from vaccines in certain sections of

children.

 

Regards,

Jagannath.

 

 

 

, " bjsamuhanand "

<bjsamuhanand wrote:

>

> Dear sir,

> Can there be an alternative medium for vaccination devoid of

> Mercury?

> Why chelation therapy with doublebind trials carried out here?

> My daughter sufferred from after effects of vaccination due to

> improper steriliasation.She got schizophrenia at the age of 12.she

> is stable but is under medication.i used to wonder about the after

> effects of vaccination as being one of the causes.

> a worthy cause to investigate