Double standards in evaluating ayurvedic and chemical drugs.

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Double standards in evaluating ayurvedic and chemical drugs. @, "wrote:> Safety of the products should be evaluated for at lest acute and> chronic toxicity. All the manufacturers want to hide behind the> clause of Grand-fathered pre-DSHEA ingredient. Some of the finished> formulations have significantly higher heavy metal content.>> Just my $0.02-------------------Dear ____,Nobody is against testing. The ayurvedic pharmacists association inIndia has asked the government for funds to set up state of the arttesting labs. There is also the need to set up standards, which ofcourse exists, but the modern doctors say there are variations. As theCEO of Himalaya Healthcare has pointed out a certain range

ofvariation is permissible even as per the govt. circular. Hopefullythese are teething problems which will be soon sorted out as thegovernment has realised that the popularity is now shifting fromchemicals to natural formulations.All this reveals a dog in the manger attitude of the modern doctors.Their motto seems to be, "If we cannot cure, others too should notcure".And regarding variations, it has been reported in The New IndianExpress that no verification of quality is done in respect of chemicaldrugs too in India. The doctors themselves have been quoted as sayingthat they find differences in performance of the same chemicalcomposition manufactured by different units. Sometimes there isvariation in results from different batches from the same productionline. The doctors say they are worried because major life savingemergency medications also suffer from this lacunae.The drug majors have

countered that they don't get the same quality ofinputs everytime, and they have to make do with what they have got.Exactly the problem with ayurvedic formulations also. But while theerrors of the drug industry are masked, the mistakes of the ayurvedicpharmacies are highlighted.The main problem in ayurvedic formulations is that the soil nutrientsare being depleted due to intense non sustainable pesticide usedfarming. A fact highlighted when Himalaya Healthcare found variationsin its Karela preparation from plants from various parts of India.This is the reason why Swami Ramdev has set up his own farm where theplants are bred in as close an environment and soil quality asavailable in their source, ie from where they originate.The earlier ayurveds also had knowledge of this variation in qualitydue to variation in environment and soil. Therefore the ayurvedicmateria medica has different uses of the same

herb as per its sourceof origin. The same herb in a mountain region is ascribed differentcurative properties from the herb in the plain.Also the ayurveds know the uses of various parts of the herb, root,stem, bark, leaves, fruit, flower, and also know what combination ofwhich part is to be used. These are recorded in ancient texts and thetext name is mentioned by the manufacturer in the label of theformulation.It is also a fact that while the drug manufacturers test their ownformulations which is accepted at face value by the doctors, they castaspersions on the claims of the ayurvedic pharmacists. This isobviously a double standard and a pointer to how a concerted effort isbeing made to malign the ayurvedic formulations.However the allopathic doctors have no qualms in prescribing thepopular ayurvedic formulations like Liv 52, Neeri, Mentat, and variousayurvedic tonics. This trend has recently been

checked by issuing adiktat that allopathic doctors cannot prescribe ayurvedic formulations.We also know why allopathic doctors are so keen to standardiseayurveda and homeopathy making the drugs disease specific. This willenable them to employ the formulations as per their own reductioniststandards.Thus on one hand while they are aware of the benefits of homeopathicand ayurvedic formulations, they seem to suggest that it is they whocan do a better job if they employ the formulations than the ayurvedsand homeopaths.I don't see how that is possible without studying ayurveda orhomeopathy in detail. If this is done then surely the doctors shouldbe termed quacks for their half baked knowledge.Many doctors in the US and UK are now "upgrading their skills" byenrolling in short term courses by various universities. The originalayurveds and homeopaths wonder how these doctors going through a sixmonth to

one year course can practice ayurveda or homeopathy whilethey themselves have to undergo a six year course.A genuine concern, no doubt, not only for the doctors but the patientswho will be at the mercy of these half baked doctors.Regards,Jagannath. "Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life but the conquest of life by the power of the spirit." - Aurobindo.

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Dear Dr.Jagannath,

Recently we had this pesticide controversy and how the cause of

pepsi and coke are defended by FICCI,CII etc.One can understand the

defence by filmstars who are paid for endorsement but these apex

bussiness organisations have to follow the line laid by their US

counterparts.

In US the drug MNCs are slowly getting worried about the

popularity of ayurveda and Homeopathy.That is why there is this

concerted attack About heavy metals etc.Revcently there was this

article in harward medical school letter about blood pressure

getting relief from breathing excercises which are advocated by

ayurveda,Yoga practisioners etc from time immemorial.

psychiatry which doesnot have biological markers like other

branches of allopathy has to depend on a sort of trial carried out

in the guise of other disceases.For example now Ketamine a

aneasthetic agent is being touted as wonder drug for depression.But

how did the trial for this aneasthetic agent was carried out?Now

viagra is another blockbuster and to protect its patent it is being

claimed good for treating infantile heart discease!!!!How this was

found out? who conducted the trial for this discovery?No one will

answer.This is being done for evergreening patent expiry drug

molecules.

CLOZAPINE which is the best drug for treating schizophrenia was

sidelined just to sell other drugs by touting its sideffects which

are found to be false atleast in case of agranulocytosis.in mental

cases the new ANDA must be tested against the existing best drug.But

they conduct clinical trial using placebo which cause relapse in

case of mentallyill.

Drug MNCs are very powerful entities who didnot allow even our

ranbaxys generic drugcocktail to be sold in US/EU for AIDS.we can

sell them only in subsahara africa!!!

I think everyone who has used homeopathy and Ayurveda knows its

effectiveness.It is also not effective in treating CANCER LAST

STAGE, MENTALILLNESS etc.Allopathy has its uses in surgery etc.But

one must have a balance.Queen of England uses only homeopathy!!

with kind regards.

 

 

 

 

, Jagannath Chatterjee

<jagchat01 wrote:

>

> Double standards in evaluating ayurvedic and chemical drugs.

>

> @, "

> wrote:

> > Safety of the products should be evaluated for at lest acute and

> > chronic toxicity. All the manufacturers want to hide behind the

> > clause of Grand-fathered pre-DSHEA ingredient. Some of the

finished

> > formulations have significantly higher heavy metal content.

> >

> > Just my $0.02

> -------------------

>

> Dear ____,

>

> Nobody is against testing. The ayurvedic pharmacists association in

> India has asked the government for funds to set up state of the art

> testing labs. There is also the need to set up standards, which of

> course exists, but the modern doctors say there are variations. As

the

> CEO of Himalaya Healthcare has pointed out a certain range of

> variation is permissible even as per the govt. circular. Hopefully

> these are teething problems which will be soon sorted out as the

> government has realised that the popularity is now shifting from

> chemicals to natural formulations.

>

> All this reveals a dog in the manger attitude of the modern

doctors.

> Their motto seems to be, " If we cannot cure, others too should not

> cure " .

>

> And regarding variations, it has been reported in The New Indian

> Express that no verification of quality is done in respect of

chemical

> drugs too in India. The doctors themselves have been quoted as

saying

> that they find differences in performance of the same chemical

> composition manufactured by different units. Sometimes there is

> variation in results from different batches from the same

production

> line. The doctors say they are worried because major life saving

> emergency medications also suffer from this lacunae.

>

> The drug majors have countered that they don't get the same

quality of

> inputs everytime, and they have to make do with what they have got.

>

> Exactly the problem with ayurvedic formulations also. But while the

> errors of the drug industry are masked, the mistakes of the

ayurvedic

> pharmacies are highlighted.

>

> The main problem in ayurvedic formulations is that the soil

nutrients

> are being depleted due to intense non sustainable pesticide used

> farming. A fact highlighted when Himalaya Healthcare found

variations

> in its Karela preparation from plants from various parts of India.

>

> This is the reason why Swami Ramdev has set up his own farm where

the

> plants are bred in as close an environment and soil quality as

> available in their source, ie from where they originate.

>

> The earlier ayurveds also had knowledge of this variation in

quality

> due to variation in environment and soil. Therefore the ayurvedic

> materia medica has different uses of the same herb as per its

source

> of origin. The same herb in a mountain region is ascribed different

> curative properties from the herb in the plain.

>

> Also the ayurveds know the uses of various parts of the herb, root,

> stem, bark, leaves, fruit, flower, and also know what combination

of

> which part is to be used. These are recorded in ancient texts and

the

> text name is mentioned by the manufacturer in the label of the

> formulation.

>

> It is also a fact that while the drug manufacturers test their own

> formulations which is accepted at face value by the doctors, they

cast

> aspersions on the claims of the ayurvedic pharmacists. This is

> obviously a double standard and a pointer to how a concerted

effort is

> being made to malign the ayurvedic formulations.

>

> However the allopathic doctors have no qualms in prescribing the

> popular ayurvedic formulations like Liv 52, Neeri, Mentat, and

various

> ayurvedic tonics. This trend has recently been checked by issuing a

> diktat that allopathic doctors cannot prescribe ayurvedic

formulations.

>

> We also know why allopathic doctors are so keen to standardise

> ayurveda and homeopathy making the drugs disease specific. This

will

> enable them to employ the formulations as per their own

reductionist

> standards.

>

> Thus on one hand while they are aware of the benefits of

homeopathic

> and ayurvedic formulations, they seem to suggest that it is they

who

> can do a better job if they employ the formulations than the

ayurveds

> and homeopaths.

>

> I don't see how that is possible without studying ayurveda or

> homeopathy in detail. If this is done then surely the doctors

should

> be termed quacks for their half baked knowledge.

>

> Many doctors in the US and UK are now " upgrading their skills " by

> enrolling in short term courses by various universities. The

original

> ayurveds and homeopaths wonder how these doctors going through a

six

> month to one year course can practice ayurveda or homeopathy while

> they themselves have to undergo a six year course.

>

> A genuine concern, no doubt, not only for the doctors but the

patients

> who will be at the mercy of these half baked doctors.

>

> Regards,

> Jagannath.

>

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>

>

> " Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life

but the conquest of life by the power of the spirit. " - Aurobindo.

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