Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 Thanks. Most of the pictures are of cells infected by HIV. One is of a cell producing HIV. Viruses are rarely traced, what is traced is their after effects, that is "viruses WERE here". As far as I know there is yet no consensus on what is really the HIV. The HIV=AIDS theory has failed the Koch test.Here are a few mails I have received on the subject;------------------------------ Re: What is AIDS?(was) Why I quit HIV. HIV is a virus. HIV may or may not cause AIDS. They whoclaim AIDS causes HIV have never actually proved it, according toKoch's postulates. Koch's postulates is the gold standard. 1. The agent must be present in every case of the disease;2. The agent must be isolated from the host and grown in a lab dish;3. The disease must be reproduced when a pure culture of the agent is inoculated into a healthy susceptible host; and4. The same agent must be recovered again from the experimentally infected host. (Koch's Postulate quote above from http://whyfiles.org/012mad_cow/7.html) In the past, when Koch's posulates have been ignored, as inthe case of Pellegra. Quote below about Pellegra is fromhttp://www.think-aboutit.com/health/VitaminB17.htm There was another disease that is a metabolic or chronic nature andthis is Pellagra. At one time it was so endemic in certain parts ofthe world, particularly the American southwest, that there were entire hospitals given to the treatment of Pellagrans. The great Sir William Osler in his "Principles and Practices ofMedicine" written at the turn of this century said of Pellagra, "I was at Lenoir, North Carolina during one winter and this winter I visited the Lenoir home for the colored insane and there 75 percent of the imnates died from the disease. It ran rampant through this institution and convinced me beyond any doubt that pellagra is a virus that is infectious." And then came the fine works of the United States Public Health Service Surgeon, Dr. Goldberger, who showed conclusively that the occurrence of Pellagra was related with a deficiency of fresh green material in the diet. So Dr. Goldberger approached this problem first by the use of Brewer's Yeast, which would completely prevent and cure pellagra. Further studies then showed that the factor in Brewer's yeast that was most determinate of this effect was niacin, Vitamin B3. HIV could be an opportunistic infection which sometimessets in when the immune system is screwed up by AIDS. AIDS could becaused by HIV, and/or a number of other factors as well, and maybe HIV does not cause AIDS at all. The government and pharmeceuticalindustry are NOT spending money looking at causes of AIDS becauusethey claim HIV causes AIDS, and they do so without substantial proof. The fact that HIV cannot be found in some AIDS patients, and that HIVis found in some people who never come down with AIDS indicate thatHIV causes AIDS is a rather simplistic assumption. AIDS is a syndrome, meaning a collection of symptoms,which could well have different causes, rather than a disease with asingle causative agent. Alobar Re: What is AIDS?(was) Why I quit HIV. I've been researching this stuff for some time. Begin withPeter Duesberg's "Inventing the AIDS Virus" and partnerthat with "The Nazi Doctors" by Robert Jay Lifton. It willopen your eyes to why people don't appear sick at all untilthey are "in treatment" and then why so many of themrapidly die. When you've read those two, I can give you another listpages long. For an intro, I highly recommend perusing http://www.virusmyth.com/ Read all of the articles carefully. Life will never again be thesame. ...geminiwalker- And here is a mainstream Indian doctor questioning the HIV theory. Is HIV the culprit?-------------------It was enlightening to know that a team of Indian researchers are tracking genetic materials (MiRNA) with the potential to combat the dreaded disease — AIDS (The human-HIV truce, April 17). A group of scientists have been opposing the HIV-AIDS hypothesis ever since the announcement of the connection between AIDS and HIV virus. Peter Duesberg, a molecular biologist at the University of California, proposed that that HIV is just a passenger retrovirus and which has never been proven to be a sexually transmitted one. Nobel Laureate Kary Mullis and Walter Gilbert also support the views of Duesberg. Dr S.K. Rudra Sonamukhi, Bankura - , "Subhasish Ghosh" <subhrakhi wrote:>> Some links to electronmicrograph images in response to Mr. Chatterjee's mail> on the subject.The message should be self explanatory.> > http://www.avert.org/pictures/hivvirus3.htm> > http://www.avert.org/pictures/hivvirus4.htm> > http://www.avert.org/pictures/hivvirus5.htm> > http://www.avert.org/pictures/hivvirus6.htm> > http://www.avert.org/pictures/aidshiv2.htm> > http://www.avert.org/pictures/hivvirus8.htm> > http://www.avert.org/pictures/virus5.htm> > http://www.avert.org/pictures/virus3.htm> > http://www.avert.org/pictures/virus4.htm> > http://www.avert.org/pictures/virus1.htm> > regards,> Subhasish> "Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life but the conquest of life by the power of the spirit." - Aurobindo. Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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