What is disease anyway?

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Diseases are harmful - but sometimes there is no other option - we often do not take care of our bodies and so we are forced into disease to align them again - how often is disease an indication of soul sickness tho? And why are our souls sick?

 

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Jagannath Chatterjee

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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 4:33 PM

Case against vaccines: Exposure to natural environment/germs good for immunity.

THIS NVIC MAIL RAISES A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION BESIDES THE APPARENT ONE. ARE ALL DISEASES HARMFUL? DO ALL DISEASES GO AGAINSTTHE BODY? PERHAPS NOT. MANY DISEASES ARE THE BODY'S ATTEMPTSTO REALIGN, ADJUST TO A CHANGING PHASE OF GROWING UP, OR ANATTEMPT TO THROW OUT ACCUMULATED TOXINS. ARE ALL DISEASES DUETO VIRUSES? THE SEARCH FOR VIRUSES IN LIFESTYLE INDUCED DISEASESPUT A QUESTION MARK ON THE VIRUS THEORY. ARE VIRUSES PRESENTFOR REASONS OTHER THAN CAUSING DISEASE? WHAT IS THE REAL ROLEOF VIRUSES? ARE ALL VIRUSES HARMFUL?AND AGAIN, WE HAVE VACCINE INDUCED DISEASES WHICH THE SYSTEM REFUSES TO ACKNOWLEDGE.BY HAVING VACCINES AGAINST THESE VACCINE INDUCED DISEASESWE ARE QUALIFYING FOR THE "MADDEST SPECIES ON EARTH

AWARD".-----------------------------E-NEWS FROM THE NATIONAL VACCINE INFORMATION CENTER Vienna, Virginia http://www.nvic.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * UNITED WAY/COMBINED FEDERAL CAMPAIGN #8122 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Protecting the health and informed consent rights of children since 1982." ========================================================================================== BL Fisher Note: During the past 25 years, the Centers for Disease Control and American Academy of Pediatrics have insisted that all American children get vaccinated with more and more vaccines from the moment of birth throughout childhood in order to prevent all infection, even with common, primarily benign childhood diseases such as chickenpox and diarrhea.

And during that same time period, the number of children suffering with brain and immune system dysfunction - ranging from learning disabilities, ADHD and autism to asthma, diabetes and severe allergies - has risen dramatically. Maybe it is not such a good idea to suppress all infection in early childhood and alter the way the developing human immune system has matured for thousands and thousands of years. Maybe Mother Nature knows best after all. http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/conditions/04/05/cohen.allergies/ Are germs good for children's health? By Elizabeth Cohen CNN FORT LAUDERDALE, Florida (CNN) -- Little Madison Sukenik crawls around her Fort Lauderdale home, grabbing everything in sight, putting much of it in her mouth. A piece of French toast that has fallen on the floor, a ball that her dog, Nugget, just chewed on, a shoe -- all get chomped on. So are her parents freaked out? Running for the antibacterial mouthwash? No -- Michelle and Mark Sukenik are more than happy to let 14-month-old Madison crawl around the house, restaurants, even her doctor's office, and put her fingers and other objects into her mouth. In fact, Mark is a pediatric ear, nose and throat specialist and he says exposure to germs will build up her immunity. Now some immunology experts are beginning to agree that germs that many parents bleach and disinfect out of existence might help children. "Hygiene hypothesis" holds that when babies are exposed to germs, it helps them fight allergies and asthma later. The prevalence of allergies has increased substantially in the past 15 years, according to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and some experts believe that too much cleanliness might be a contributing factor. Dr. Dennis Ownby, chief

of allergy and immunology at the Medical College of Georgia, found in a study that babies in households with multiple pets have fewer allergies at age 6 or 7 not just to animals, but also to ragweed, grass and dust mites. Ownby also said studies of babies in day care have found that while they have more infections early, they have fewer allergies and less wheezing later. The Sukeniks say they know not every parent agrees with their easygoing lifestyle. Michelle said she used to be a "germaphobe." When her husband would come home and hug Madison wearing the scrubs he had worn all day while treating sick kids, she said she was "mortified." She was "grossed out" when Mark let Madison eat food right off the floor of his office. But then she noticed that Madison wasn't getting sick. She didn't get her first cold until she was 13 months old while the children of friends who were meticulously clean were sick many times before their first birthday. But Kara Sherry of Columbus, Ohio, says her kids are also rarely sick, and she's a self-described "clean freak." She sanitizes the family's toothbrushes by putting them either in the dishwasher or boiling water. When she goes grocery shopping, she wipes down the edges of the cart with antibacterial wipes before her children Sam, 3 ½, and Hayden, 5, climb in. Her daughter Carleigh, almost 2, sits on a piece of fabric in the front of the grocery cart that covers the handle. Kara said she never touches the handle of a grocery cart, and would never let her children touch it either. "Anything could be on that handle," she said. "Someone could have gone to the bathroom and not washed their hands, someone could have a cut on their hand. It could be staph, E. coli, it could be anything." She said she does this out of "love and protection. I look at it as a way, as another way I protect my kids." Ownby said studies don't

show that Sherry is hurting her children, but that anything much more than basic hygiene like hand-washing isn't really necessary. "It would be more than what I'd be willing to do in my own kitchen," he said. ============================================= News is a free service of the National Vaccine Information Center and is supported through membership donations. Learn more about vaccines, diseases and how to protect your informed consent rights http://www.nvic.org Become a member and support NVIC's work https://www.nvic.org/making%20cash%20donations.htm To sign up for a free e-mail subscription http://www.nvic.org/emaillist.htm To from this list, please go to http://nvic.org/emaillistunsub.htm or send an email to news-request and type UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the email. NVIC is funded through individual membership donations and does not receive government funding. Barbara Loe Fisher, President and Co-founder. NOTE: This is not an interactive e-mail list. Please do not respond to messages.

 

 

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SOMETHING BEST LEFT ALONE BY TRAINEES

 

Trainee nurse killed two patients for thrills

 

· Defendant had access to A & E department drugs

· Sentence deferred on man who played with lives

Wednesday April 19, 2006

A nurse who got his thrills from taking patients to

the brink of death by injecting them with potentially

lethal drugs was found guilty of two counts of murder

yesterday.

Benjamin Geen, 25, endangered the lives of patients

who had been admitted to the accident and emergency

department of Horton hospital in Banbury, Oxfordshire,

by giving them drugs which stopped their breathing.

Although all were very ill, most were resuscitated in

circumstances Geen was said to find exciting.

But David Onley, 75, and Anthony Bateman, 65, died

within a fortnight of each other in January 2004, and

the jury at Oxford crown court yesterday found Geen

guilty of their murder, as well as 15 counts of

causing grievous bodily harm to other patients. He was

acquitted of one further count of GBH.

Michael Austin Smith, QC, prosecuting, told the jury

that Geen must have known that the consequences of his

thrill-seeking could be fatal, but that playing with

patients' lives was a " price he was willing to pay in

order to satisfy his perverse needs " .

Geen's case parallels that of Beverley Allitt, the

paediatric nurse who killed four children in her care

with drug overdoses and injured nine others between

1991 and 1993. Allitt, who worked at Grantham and

Kesteven hospital in Lincolnshire, was diagnosed with

a mental disorder and is now in Rampton secure

hospital.

Detective Superintendent Andy Taylor, of Thames Valley

police's major crime unit, said Geen " abused [his]

position of trust. We may never know what motivated

him to select and poison his victims but it is clear

that he wanted to be the centre of attention and in

order to fuel this desire, brought some of his

patients to the brink of death and coldly murdered two

of them. "

The judge, Mr Justice Crane, said he would postpone

sentencing until he had received a psychological

report.

" Although it's clear what the usual sentence has got

to be [an obligatory life sentence for murder], I

think I want to get a report. " I must say I'm inclined

with the motive that the prosecution put forward [that

Geen enjoyed the excitement of sending his victims to

the brink of death]. These are such unusual offences,

and the motive is such a strange one and not in any

sense entirely normal, I think I should not sentence

until I have got a full picture. "

The patients, some of whom were very ill or elderly,

had been through a difficult time, he said. " When

someone is admitted to hospital there is an

expectation that they will receive the treatment, care

and nursing that will help them get through their

illness.

" In the vast majority of cases we receive it and are

rightly proud of our healthcare professionals. "

Geen, although a trainee, had access to a range of

drugs for use in the hospital's accident and emergency

department. Between December 2003 and February 2004,

he used a variety, including insulin, sedatives and

muscle relaxants, on his victims.

Doctors were bewildered by the high rate of

respiratory arrests in the department - there would be

normally be one to two a year. They were also

happening in patients who would not be expected to

have breathing difficulties.

When an alcoholic was admitted with stomach pains and

ended up in intensive care, they realised that

something was seriously wrong. The man, Timothy

Stubbs, had traces of two drugs in his urine - the

sedative midazolam and the muscle relaxant vecuronium

- which had not been prescribed for him.

Over one weekend in February 2004, medical staff

reviewed the case notes of patients whose respiratory

arrests they could not explain. They reduced the cases

under review to 18, and common to all of them was

trainee casualty nurse Geen. The police were called

and Geen was arrested when he arrived at work the

following morning. In his pocket was a syringe of

vecuronium.

Thames Valley police said the investigation was long

and painstaking, at one point involving 40 officers.

Each case was allocated to a separate team of

officers, which meant hospital staff faced repeated

interviews. " From a very early stage we recognised the

potential size of the case and the difficulty we were

going to face investigating it, " said Detective

Superintendent Taylor.

" Initially, we took the primary findings of the

hospital and started to work on those. At the same

time, the hospital had the task of going back over a

period of time and researching admissions to A & E over

the relevant period. " Mr Taylor said Geen had not

obstructed the inquiry. " The hypothesis emerged as a

result of the inquiry that, in an effort to promote

himself, he deliberately administered these drugs. It

was narcissism of the worst form. " Mr Taylor did not

think Geen would have stopped if he had not been

arrested.

" He was arriving for a night duty with a loaded

syringe, " he said. " He was becoming more brazen. Had

the hospital not alerted us and done what they had

done I am convinced he would have carried on. "

The victims

A drip was put in place - and he stopped breathing

Anthony Bateman, 66, was already " very unwell " ,

suffering from asthma, arthritis and a heart condition

when he was admitted on January 6 for a suspected

cancer. Doctors said he was conscious but after Geen

had took a blood sample and set up a saline drip he

stopped breathing. Experts said Mr Bateman's arrest

was " highly unlikely " to have been caused by his

underlying illnesses and his life would have been

prolonged by resuscitation. They concluded he had been

given a muscle relaxant, probably through his drip.

David Onley, 75, was seriously ill when he was

admitted on January 21. He had a heart condition, was

diabetic and due to a triple bypass operation three

weeks earlier, had a wound that was thought to be

infected. Geen came on duty at 7am and Mr Onley was

handed over to his care. By 8.30am Mr Onley had

stopped breathing. By 9.50am he was awake and talking

to staff. At lunchtime he suffered a heart attack and

was revived but then just before 4pm he suffered

another and his organs failed. He died the following

day. Experts said Mr Onley had stopped breathing

because he was given a muscle relaxant.

The 15 other patients against whom Geen committed

grievous bodily harm were David Long, 53, David

Nelson, 77, Robert Robinson, 51, Hilda Wigram, 89,

Walter Coates, 61, John Moncur Thorburn, 73, Sheila

Gray-Snook, 73, Jonathan Feltham, 22, Harold Boss, 66,

Noreen Brooks, 55, Arthur Marlow, 79, Grace Fox, 88,

Esther Jordan, 79, Herline Probert, 67, and Timothy

Stubbs, 42.