Cloning & Vedic concept of soul and body.

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Dear Ravinderji, I am very much aware of what medical science is. I have closely watched their achievements for many decades when I was under their "care". During my early days not many in that profession had sold their souls. In the Air Force Hospitals where I was usually treated many doctors and compounders used to rebuke me for turning up at the hospital regularly for my antibiotic and steroidal injections. They used to curse their seniors and advise my parents to take me to other systems. But my parents had a scientific bent of mind and believed that science would definitely cure me. Today they know better. Both my parents are now devotees of homeopathy and go around advising people to switch to alternative systems. According to both of them Swami Ramdev is "Narayana" reincarnated to heal the sick humanity. My brother recieved homeopathic attention very early in life as my parents did not want him to suffer in life. Please do not remain under the false impression that genetic engineering and stem cell therapy will be magic cures. Regarding genetic engineering, in an UN conference held last year, a majority of the medical scientists expressed grave concern. Quite a few of them wanted a total ban on genetic experimentation. They pointed out that gorillas are 99% similiar to humans genetically. Just 1% difference has led to a world of difference. They said that we could be creating unknown species if we tinkered with genes. And again, they also pointed out that not even the very rich would be able to afford either genetic engineering or stem cell therapy. Do you know what genetic mapping and disease diagnosis would cost? In today's date it would cost $ 1,00,000/- or Rs. 45 lacs. If you say it will take another ten years to perfect then you can well imagine the escalation of cost. The figure of Rs. 45 lacs is taken from the latest issue

of Scientific American. The scientists pointed out that by declaring that genetic medicine would be the medicine of the future the medical community was "living in a fools paradise". Their exact words. Do you know that the medical community has set up a fund of billions of dollars just to counteract the ethical opposition to gene therapy? This fund will be used to bribe politicians, harass detractors and "spread the good word" about genetic engineering. This is madness. Therefore let us depend on our tried and tested medical methods which have stood us well for many centuries. As a valuable member of this list has mentioned to me in a private mail, "Modern medicine is a fraud on mankind". I agree totally. Unless we reject it we cannot return to good health. We run the risk of becoming a totally perverted and extremely corrupted animal like race if we let allopathy remain the dominant method. The perversions we are seeing everywhere

today are not materialising out of thin air. This medical system is behind it all by, as I said earlier, not allowing the body to grow naturally. Please understand the seriousness of the situation. I am not against you but I will oppose this "science" and write against it till my last breath. Regarding change in eating habits etc, why did it come about? Because we did not listen to the ayurveds is it not? Today we talk of vegetarian food, wholesome fiber diet, timely meals, timely rest, yogic exercise and all that. If you read the "dinacharya" and "ritucharya" aspect of ayurveda you will find that such things were detailed in circa 300AD. The ayurveds also warned against the destruction of nature, environmental degradation and job hazards. They also warned us against passions, unhealthy emotions, respect to sexes, and such other issues that are being raised today. Had we followed ayurveda instead of falling for western thoughts

or habits such a dangerous health and environment situation would never have developed. The time to act is NOW. We cannot wait for another decade. As for cloning, only the cloned dog of the "fraud" South Korean scientist is alive today. All the others died of strange diseases. Medical manipulation of man is being pursued for political reasons also. There are efforts to create a "politically correct" race. I will write extensively on this issue after some time as more documents surface. Please also know that the Muslim fear of vaccines as efforts to curb population is not incorrect. Such vaccines have been experimented in Africa forcing a Muslim country there to ban vaccines. This is also a reason why I oppose drug experiments by MNC's in India. Regarding your contention that eczema and psoriasis are "allergies" I really don't know what to say. To understand the health issue you have to

be aware of health, environment, politics, business, profits and a host of other subjects. We have realised it long back and so we discuss all these issues in our health groups. Regards,Jagannath. India-Force , R Singh <corruptionfree04> wrote:>> Cloning & Vedic Concept Of Soul & Body. > Dear Mr. Jagannath, > Medical science has already achieved what was preached since vedic times that souls leaves a used or worn out body and is born again --. Cloning has made possible to create identical new body and any number of identical bodies. Progress in medical science is phenomenal. > > It is not true that man has not changed since the ayurveda was

discovered. > > We have completely changed in terms of our eating habits, living in well made homes, use of energy has gone by several hundred times, pollution, kind of foods we eat, utensils we use are made of so many different metals aluminum, copper, brass, glass, china, spread of deceases with progress in trade, use of pesticide, industrial pollution of all kinds and desire to live beyond 70-80 years. There is no element baring some recent discoveries which man has not used, man has synthesized millions of new molecules. > > Man has taken out petroleum and from many thousand meter deep in to earth or sea. > > Science has even cloned humans, made body parts for replacement and it will be possible to predict genetic defects soon after birth and prevent dreaded illnesses like cancer. As I said in my last message, trained pigs can identify cancer just

by smelling. Diagnostic kits for cancer, TB and other deceases will be available in about 10 years. > > Medical research has reached a stage where a genetic map of baby in womb can be drawn and defective genes identified. It is possible to draw color images of internal organs with causing any damage to the body tissues and organs. > > Commercialization of such technologies will take over a decade to be affordable to common man. > > Asthma and eczema are “Allergic Reactions” to substances, which certain people can’t tolerate. Simple “Avil 25mg” can cure many deceases but used to cost only Rs.0.25p only, cost of molecules just about 1-2 paisa per tablet.> > We don’t appreciate the achievements and advances in medical science due to lack of knowledge and under valuing things which cure but cost nothing.

> > Ravinder Singh > > "Jagannath Chatterjee" <jagchat01> --Two Messages.> > Dear Ravinderji,> > The human body has not changed since the days ayurveda was discovered. It is essentially the same. The skin as a reflection of the internal state of a person has been observed by many advanced civillizations. The current system, by its faulty presumptions, is putting a tremendous strain on the body. Kidney failures, heart> failures, other organ failures, endocrinal gland failures reflect the suppressive and skewed nature of treatment being followed today.> > Nowhere in the history of mankind has such a marked degree of health> failure been recorded as is happening

today.> > Regarding the role of the skin in toxin elimination, the doctors are now coming around to that. Till the other day they scoffed at the link between eczema and asthma but very recently the most reputed skin specialist in Kolkata, Dr Panja, admitted that "Asthma and eczema are found to alternate, but we still have not found the connection between the two".> > By forcibly ensuring its monopoly allopathy has shut all windows. It is very difficult for mankind to survive unless an open attitude is developed.> > The allopaths call all other systems unscientific. But millions of people continue to be cured by those "unscientific" methods. Yesterday the National Geographic showed how mainstream doctors of the California University Medical College are now turning to maggots to help heal wounds. This has become essential as antibiotics are no longer

effective and diabetics with wounds cannot wait for science to develop. Had such maggots been used by Swami Ramdev the whole of the scientific community would have been after him. He would have been the object of ridicule. But if the current doctors use such methods then nobody has anything to say.> > After all the technologies are exhausted the doctors will find that nature is the best healer. The ayurveda, naturopaths, homeopaths are saying the same right now and have been saying this right from the beginning.> > Regards,> Jagannath.> "Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life but the conquest of life by the power of the spirit." - Aurobindo.

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