Guest guest Posted April 6, 2001 Report Share Posted April 6, 2001 In digest #384 (6 April) " Richard " (richard.aromatherapy) wrote > in my experience, and when used to target specific problems, MLD massage is very profound. It is a discipline I would always > advise a trained therapist to consider adding to their 'skill base'. My questions are quite simple, but I hope a relatively in-depth answer might be provided, please - Richard? 1. How far is self-massage possible and/or effective in terms of MLD? 2. Any recommendations for a good course/workshop to learn MLD (preferably based around the London/SE England area)? With thanks - and in anticipation Sue Moore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2001 Report Share Posted April 6, 2001 - Sue Moore <sue.moore Cc: <richard.aromatherapy Friday, April 06, 2001 11:19 AM Lymphatic Drainage > In digest #384 (6 April) " Richard " (richard.aromatherapy) > wrote > > > in my experience, and when used to target specific problems, MLD massage > is very profound. It is a discipline I would always > > advise a trained therapist to consider adding to their 'skill base'. > > My questions are quite simple, but I hope a relatively in-depth answer might > be provided, please - Richard? > > 1. How far is self-massage possible and/or effective in terms of MLD? Hi Sue, I haven't really thought about this but I guess you could perform a fair amount of the massage sequence (including node work and joint movements) on yourself. However, during training I was taught/given an 'everyday self-stimulation sequence' for the lymphatic system. Sue, I haven't actually done this but my 'gut feeling' is that a combination of the foregoing two options should provide a fairly thorough and effective self-massage/stimulation treatment of the lymphatic system. Something I might just 'put together' and try. > 2. Any recommendations for a good course/workshop to learn MLD (preferably > based around the London/SE England area)? > Sue, it is a fair while since I did my course and consequently I will not specifically recommend any course/workshop for MLD. However, I will provide you with a few 'centres' that have advertised in the IFA Quarterly Journal for a fair while and leave you to make contact and form your own assessment of what is on offer. 1. European School of Healing & Complementary Medicine (Sutton/Surrey) Tel: 020 8643 1609 2. Manual Lymphatic Drainage UK Ltd @ www.mlduk.org Tel: 01592 840799 3. British Manual Lymph Drainage Association PO Box 148, Tunbridge Wells, kent, TN4 8WG > With thanks - and in anticipation > > Sue Moore > > There you are then and take care ...... Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2001 Report Share Posted April 6, 2001 That's a brilliant start, thanks Richard. I'll get busy on the phone! The main problem is water retention in my right ankle (worse in hot weather). Plus I want to shake myself up generally and give my system a boost - time to get truly healthy once and for all! Sue Moore > > Richard [sMTP:richard.aromatherapy] > Friday, April 06, 2001 1:18 PM > Sue Moore; > Re: Lymphatic Drainage > > > - > Sue Moore <sue.moore > > Cc: <richard.aromatherapy > Friday, April 06, 2001 11:19 AM > Lymphatic Drainage > > > > In digest #384 (6 April) " Richard " (richard.aromatherapy) > > wrote > > > > > in my experience, and when used to target specific problems, MLD > massage > > is very profound. It is a discipline I would always > > > advise a trained therapist to consider adding to their 'skill base'. > > > > My questions are quite simple, but I hope a relatively in-depth answer > might > > be provided, please - Richard? > > > > 1. How far is self-massage possible and/or effective in terms of MLD? > > Hi Sue, > > I haven't really thought about this but I guess you could perform a fair > amount of the massage sequence (including node work and joint movements) > on > yourself. However, during training I was taught/given an 'everyday > self-stimulation sequence' for the lymphatic system. Sue, I haven't > actually > done this but my 'gut feeling' is that a combination of the foregoing two > options should provide a fairly thorough and effective > self-massage/stimulation treatment of the lymphatic system. Something I > might just 'put together' and try. > > > 2. Any recommendations for a good course/workshop to learn MLD > (preferably > > based around the London/SE England area)? > > > > Sue, it is a fair while since I did my course and consequently I will not > specifically recommend any course/workshop for MLD. However, I will > provide > you with a few 'centres' that have advertised in the IFA Quarterly Journal > for a fair while and leave you to make contact and form your own > assessment > of what is on offer. > > 1. European School of Healing & Complementary Medicine (Sutton/Surrey) > Tel: 020 8643 1609 > > 2. Manual Lymphatic Drainage UK Ltd @ www.mlduk.org > Tel: 01592 840799 > > 3. British Manual Lymph Drainage Association PO Box 148, Tunbridge Wells, > kent, TN4 8WG > > > With thanks - and in anticipation > > > > Sue Moore > > > > > There you are then and take care ...... Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2001 Report Share Posted April 7, 2001 - Richard Wednesday, April 04, 2001 10:42 AM [AX] Lymphatic Drainage - Moira <dunmor Friday, March 30, 2001 7:07 AM [AX] Fw: LYMPHATIC DRAINAGE Hi Moira, I first sent this 1st April '01 (not a good date to chose) and I notice it hasn't turned up on the list. So I will try one more time. Here it is again, aplogies to you all if it arrives twice. This post 'caught my eye' - I'll just do a quick response before my favourite 'soap' starts. I provide specialised manual lymphatic drainage (MLD) massage and so I will try and answer your questions. It is a large topic so I shall stick to just the main points you have raised. > > I have had some conflicting information on lymphatic drainage during therapeutic >aromatherapy massage. A limited amount of lymphatic drainage massage will be accomplished during traditional aromatherapy massage. >Firstly what are the main movements for encouraging lymphatic drainage? Are they >Petrissage and Squeezing? > Neither really, in specialised MLD massage the 'massage movements' (which are only a part of the 'whole thing') are more akin to variations on light effleurage (the lymph vessels are close to the surface). Also, the movements are restricted to areas containing these vessels so you do this massage over this system rather than the muscle groups. The massage also has to be carried out in a specific order around the lymph system and also includes completely different work at the major lymph nodes. When this latter part is done the receiver/client has to work with the therapist with breathing and breath. In addition, very gentle manipulation of the joints are carried out. > When massaging a limb for instance with lymphatic drainage in mind does one drain >the top of the limb first and then the bottom? Or the other way around? > > For example does one begin massaging at the elbow and up to the shoulder and >at the knee and massage up the thigh and thereafter start at the ankle and massage up >the calf? For these two parts of the body the order is pretty much as you suggest but with my foregoing caveats about lymph vessels, nodes and joints. >Finishing off with effleurage movements that are directed towards the heart >and begin >at the bottom of the limb moving up to the top.? > Lymph drainage massage finishes (and starts) with the cisterna chyli. > I look forward to some info on this but please dont reply unless you are absolutely >sure that the information is correct. > I hope this helps, it is very brief but gives you an idea. Moira, in my experience, and when used to target specific problems, MLD massage is very profound. It is a discipline I would always advise a trained therapist to consider adding to their 'skill base'. > Thanks > > Moira > JHB SOUTH AFRICA > > You are welcome ..... Richard MIFA/England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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