Guest guest Posted July 26, 2000 Report Share Posted July 26, 2000 Dear Helen, Ron etc The reaction I have cited -- true to the best of my knowledge -- was described at the 1997 RCN Complementary Therapies in Nursing Forum annual conference. I should have more details, but all I can find in what passes for a filing system in my study (does anybody know of any oils to make me tidier ???) is a referenced article ....... which I admit to not having read .........which is : Fowler P, Wall M, COSHH and CHIPS : Ensuring the Safety of Aromatherapy. Accepted for publication July1996, Complementary Therapies in Medicine. The conference literature contains their addresses (? if up to date ), & they discussed the case , amongst other H & S issues at conference if you'd like this info. I, personally, am more than happy with the safety of EOs in the right hands...... I have been using them for 10 years (have a Diploma & at present am undertaking BSc in same .... eager to learn more ....which is also why I to this list ) but have been a nurse for 30 years, and have developed a knowledge of " management " which tells me that when everything is going ok any extra skills which the nurse may bring to her job is ok. & these hospitals will take the kudos for being forward thinking ......... even if there are no protocols in place to support these therapies. If there are any complaints, or comebacks, or possible reactions (dermal irritants as an example) believe me the nurse, however well-intentioned, would find herself standing alone. My main concern in hospitals is the safe use, within protocols or guidelines to protect patients who may be treated by well intentioned dabblers but also to protect the staff in the, albeit, unlikely event of mishap. I understand that hospitals such as Christies have stringent guidelines & experienced aromatherapist nurses, which is how I believe it should be. I believe more hospitals should have nurses in such roles -- but I also know that our hospitals struggle to provide basic care & such staff are seen as 'luxuries'. Even in hospice care a lot of aromatherapy is (I understand) given by volunteers. I am in a unique position, sort of between ward & management, depending on who needs the whipping boy. (Any oils to reduce cynicism??) However my instincts and experience make me protective of the nurses, whilst obviously having the best interests of the patients in mind. Kindest wishes to all (my intentions are pure & wish to advance the art & science of aromatherapy,even if I do sound guarded , staid & reactionary !!) Off to bed ....... another long, hard night shift, Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2000 Report Share Posted July 29, 2000 Dear Jane, Thanks for your E mail to the list, would it be possible for you to telephone Sylvia Baker or Teddy Fearnham of the Aromatherapy Organizations Council 01799 540622 who are both fully informed about COSH, CHIP etc. and who have had a conference with speakers from those organizations a couple of years ago. In this way you can have peace of mind, and perhaps everyone on the list will be aware of the facts. We are a very small and growing industry, and statements like these can affect the future of aromatherapy in a very intensive way. Having been Research chair of the AOC many years ago, and sat on numerous education and reseach standards committes in London, I now live abroad and feel very protective of the profession. With all my best wishes and kind regards, Vivian Vivian Lunny MD Fellow of the International Federation of Aromatherapists. www.realessencesoflife.com Pendlestone <pstone Aromatherapy List 28 July, 2000 10:10 PM [AX] reaction >Dear Helen, Ron etc > >The reaction I have cited -- true to the best of my knowledge -- was described at the 1997 RCN Complementary Therapies in Nursing Forum annual conference. I should have more details, but all I can find in what passes for a filing system in my study (does anybody know of any oils to make me tidier ???) is a referenced article ....... which I admit to not having read ..........which is : >Fowler P, Wall M, COSHH and CHIPS : Ensuring the Safety of Aromatherapy. Accepted for publication July1996, Complementary Therapies in Medicine. >The conference literature contains their addresses (? if up to date ), & they discussed the case , amongst other H & S issues at conference if you'd like this info. > >I, personally, am more than happy with the safety of EOs in the right hands...... I have been using them for 10 years (have a Diploma & at present am undertaking BSc in same .... eager to learn more ....which is also why I to this list ) but have been a nurse for 30 years, and have developed a knowledge of " management " which tells me that when everything is going ok any extra skills which the nurse may bring to her job is ok. & these hospitals will take the kudos for being forward thinking ......... even if there are no protocols in place to support these therapies. If there are any complaints, or comebacks, or possible reactions (dermal irritants as an example) believe me the nurse, however well-intentioned, would find herself standing alone. My main concern in hospitals is the safe use, within protocols or guidelines to protect patients who may be treated by well intentioned dabblers but also to protect the staff in the, albeit, unlikely event of mishap. I understand that hospitals such as Christies have stringent guidelines & experienced aromatherapist nurses, which is how I believe it should be. I believe more hospitals should have nurses in such roles -- but I also know that our hospitals struggle to provide basic care & such staff are seen as 'luxuries'. Even in hospice care a lot of aromatherapy is (I understand) given by volunteers. I am in a unique position, sort of between ward & management, depending on who needs the whipping boy. (Any oils to reduce cynicism??) However my instincts and experience make me protective of the nurses, whilst obviously having the best interests of the patients in mind. > >Kindest wishes to all >(my intentions are pure & wish to advance the art & science of aromatherapy,even if I do sound guarded , staid & reactionary !!) >Off to bed ....... another long, hard night shift, >Jean > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2000 Report Share Posted July 31, 2000 My Dear Vivian, How are you? Are you back in the UK? If you can, I'd love to hear about what this " anaphylactic shock " report actually represents. Does the AOC have an email address or website? Take care, Ron Guba - vivian lunny <doctorvivian Sunday, July 30, 2000 4:41 AM Re: [AX] reaction > Dear Jane, > > Thanks for your E mail to the list, would it be possible for you to > telephone Sylvia Baker or Teddy Fearnham of the Aromatherapy Organizations > Council 01799 540622 who are both fully informed about COSH, CHIP etc. and > who have had a conference with speakers from those organizations a couple of > years ago. > > In this way you can have peace of mind, and perhaps everyone on the list > will be aware of the facts. > > We are a very small and growing industry, and statements like these can > affect the future of aromatherapy in a very intensive way. > > Having been Research chair of the AOC many years ago, and sat on numerous > education and reseach standards committes in London, I now live abroad and > feel very protective of the profession. > > With all my best wishes and kind regards, > > Vivian > Vivian Lunny MD > Fellow of the International Federation of Aromatherapists. > www.realessencesoflife.com > > Pendlestone <pstone > Aromatherapy List > 28 July, 2000 10:10 PM > [AX] reaction > > > >Dear Helen, Ron etc > > > >The reaction I have cited -- true to the best of my knowledge -- was > described at the 1997 RCN Complementary Therapies in Nursing Forum annual > conference. I should have more details, but all I can find in what passes > for a filing system in my study (does anybody know of any oils to make me > tidier ???) is a referenced article ....... which I admit to not having read > .........which is : > >Fowler P, Wall M, COSHH and CHIPS : Ensuring the Safety of Aromatherapy. > Accepted for publication July1996, Complementary Therapies in Medicine. > >The conference literature contains their addresses (? if up to date ), & > they discussed the case , amongst other H & S issues at conference if you'd > like this info. > > > >I, personally, am more than happy with the safety of EOs in the right > hands...... I have been using them for 10 years (have a Diploma & at present > am undertaking BSc in same .... eager to learn more ....which is also why I > to this list ) but have been a nurse for 30 years, and have > developed a knowledge of " management " which tells me that when everything is > going ok any extra skills which the nurse may bring to her job is ok. & > these hospitals will take the kudos for being forward thinking ......... > even if there are no protocols in place to support these therapies. If there > are any complaints, or comebacks, or possible reactions (dermal irritants as > an example) believe me the nurse, however well-intentioned, would find > herself standing alone. My main concern in hospitals is the safe use, within > protocols or guidelines to protect patients who may be treated by well > intentioned dabblers but also to protect the staff in the, albeit, unlikely > event of mishap. I understand that hospitals such as Christies have > stringent guidelines & experienced aromatherapist nurses, which is how I > believe it should be. I believe more hospitals should have nurses in such > roles -- but I also know that our hospitals struggle to provide basic care & > such staff are seen as 'luxuries'. Even in hospice care a lot of > aromatherapy is (I understand) given by volunteers. I am in a unique > position, sort of between ward & management, depending on who needs the > whipping boy. (Any oils to reduce cynicism??) However my instincts and > experience make me protective of the nurses, whilst obviously having the > best interests of the patients in mind. > > > >Kindest wishes to all > >(my intentions are pure & wish to advance the art & science of > aromatherapy,even if I do sound guarded , staid & reactionary !!) > >Off to bed ....... another long, hard night shift, > >Jean > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2000 Report Share Posted August 1, 2000 Hi Ron, I am still in Vancouver, great place to be, I can tell you. I do however know that there was a big anti-AT campaign about a year ago, and that Sylvia and Teddy were dealing with it. However, I am going on holiday to England in two weeks and will be able to discover what happened, my " gut " feeling is that it was not a clinically documented incident, just as usual things being whispered in the wind. Are you still in Melbourne? If you have any interesting information on your work etc, perhaps you can give it to my son Hugo, who is on Holiday in Williamstown and can bring it back for me. Are you coming to the NAHA conference?, Vancouver is just a stone throw from Seattle, maybe we could put something together. My son is taying at c/o John and Debbie Lunny, 10 Lemon Street, Williamstown, Vic. Thanks for renewing the contact. Vivian Vivian Lunny MD Real essences of Life Ron Guba <esstherapeutics 31 July, 2000 9:46 PM Re: [AX] reaction >My Dear Vivian, > >How are you? Are you back in the UK? If you can, I'd love to hear about what >this " anaphylactic shock " report actually represents. Does the AOC have an >email address or website? > >Take care, > >Ron Guba >- >vivian lunny <doctorvivian > >Sunday, July 30, 2000 4:41 AM >Re: [AX] reaction > > >> Dear Jane, >> >> Thanks for your E mail to the list, would it be possible for you to >> telephone Sylvia Baker or Teddy Fearnham of the Aromatherapy Organizations >> Council 01799 540622 who are both fully informed about COSH, CHIP etc. and >> who have had a conference with speakers from those organizations a couple >of >> years ago. >> >> In this way you can have peace of mind, and perhaps everyone on the list >> will be aware of the facts. >> >> We are a very small and growing industry, and statements like these can >> affect the future of aromatherapy in a very intensive way. >> >> Having been Research chair of the AOC many years ago, and sat on numerous >> education and reseach standards committes in London, I now live abroad and >> feel very protective of the profession. >> >> With all my best wishes and kind regards, >> >> Vivian >> Vivian Lunny MD >> Fellow of the International Federation of Aromatherapists. >> www.realessencesoflife.com >> >> Pendlestone <pstone >> Aromatherapy List >> 28 July, 2000 10:10 PM >> [AX] reaction >> >> >> >Dear Helen, Ron etc >> > >> >The reaction I have cited -- true to the best of my knowledge -- was >> described at the 1997 RCN Complementary Therapies in Nursing Forum annual >> conference. I should have more details, but all I can find in what passes >> for a filing system in my study (does anybody know of any oils to make me >> tidier ???) is a referenced article ....... which I admit to not having >read >> .........which is : >> >Fowler P, Wall M, COSHH and CHIPS : Ensuring the Safety of Aromatherapy. >> Accepted for publication July1996, Complementary Therapies in Medicine. >> >The conference literature contains their addresses (? if up to date ), & >> they discussed the case , amongst other H & S issues at conference if you'd >> like this info. >> > >> >I, personally, am more than happy with the safety of EOs in the right >> hands...... I have been using them for 10 years (have a Diploma & at >present >> am undertaking BSc in same .... eager to learn more ....which is also why >I >> to this list ) but have been a nurse for 30 years, and have >> developed a knowledge of " management " which tells me that when everything >is >> going ok any extra skills which the nurse may bring to her job is ok. & >> these hospitals will take the kudos for being forward thinking ......... >> even if there are no protocols in place to support these therapies. If >there >> are any complaints, or comebacks, or possible reactions (dermal irritants >as >> an example) believe me the nurse, however well-intentioned, would find >> herself standing alone. My main concern in hospitals is the safe use, >within >> protocols or guidelines to protect patients who may be treated by well >> intentioned dabblers but also to protect the staff in the, albeit, >unlikely >> event of mishap. I understand that hospitals such as Christies have >> stringent guidelines & experienced aromatherapist nurses, which is how I >> believe it should be. I believe more hospitals should have nurses in such >> roles -- but I also know that our hospitals struggle to provide basic care > & >> such staff are seen as 'luxuries'. Even in hospice care a lot of >> aromatherapy is (I understand) given by volunteers. I am in a unique >> position, sort of between ward & management, depending on who needs the >> whipping boy. (Any oils to reduce cynicism??) However my instincts and >> experience make me protective of the nurses, whilst obviously having the >> best interests of the patients in mind. >> > >> >Kindest wishes to all >> >(my intentions are pure & wish to advance the art & science of >> aromatherapy,even if I do sound guarded , staid & reactionary !!) >> >Off to bed ....... another long, hard night shift, >> >Jean >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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