Guest guest Posted June 15, 2000 Report Share Posted June 15, 2000 > Any easy - beginning - soap recipes that novices could use out there? If > so, please post them or send them to my address. Les. Most of my recipes are large and I don't know how much soap you really want to make. You can make soap with Crisco, but I doubt that you would like it. I suggest that you buy the following oils for a basic recipe. Olive oil, Coconut oil and Palm oil. Coconut oil gives you a good lather, but don't use more than 25% as it can become drying in larger percentages. The olive and Palm you can split any way you like; the more Palm the harder the bar. You will also need Sodium Hydroxide. Red Devil drain cleaner is 100% Sodium Hydroxide; don't substitute any other drain cleaner as they won't work. You will need an accurate scale as everything is weighed. You need either stainless steel pans or glass cookware. If you use anything else, the sodium hydroxide will eat through it. You will also need a mold, a paper milk carton will work for now. A stick blender is a real necessity, you can get one at Walmart for about $15. A good thermometer is also needed. Most people " don't " believe that the benefits of essential oils survive the saponification process. If you do use essential oils, I would suggest that you use blends that include top, middle, and base notes, as a straight essential oil will tend to lose it's fragrance very quickly. If you still want to make soap and are willing to buy the above ingredients, you can contact me off list and I will be happy to figure out a recipe for you if you let me know how large a recipe you want to make. There is less chance of error in making 12 bars of soap than in making one as the weight of each ingredient is less critical with a larger batch. It is also dangerous working with sodium hydroxide, but I can go into the precautions off list. Pat. Peace, Joy, Serenity achil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 Yes, it does penetrate the skin and go in the blood, but I think a body wash is not the best way, because you don't keep it on you so long! I think a herbal bath would be better. Or even a flowerwater you spray on you at the end. If you really want a bodywash, you have to put a lot of essential oils and it is really not ecologic. Yes, it is biodegradable, but one drop represents a lot of plants that have been grown on a wide field (that was probably a wild forest before!). I use essential oils only for therapeutic purpose, when infusion, vinegar or tincture is not strong enough. To make soaps, I use infused oils with flowerwaters or infusions. Neige ~*~§~*~ >Tohelpwilliam >herbal remedies >herbal remedies >[herbal remedies] soap making >Wed, 9 Jul 2003 22:07:09 EDT > >I'm interested in making body wash for the family. I have a couple of >questions: > >Whats the difference between fragrance oils, infused oils and essential >oils? > >If I wanted to make a relaxing body wash for William, would the oil I used >work as an aromatherapatic way or do the relaxing properties of the herb >penetrate his skin(does this ? make sense?) I want to know if it's better >to make a >tea and add to the wash or if using the oil is the same as using the >tea(or >infusion?). > >Is jojoba oil as wonderful as the label says it is? > >Thanks, >Ann > _______________ MSN Search, le moteur de recherche qui pense comme vous ! http://fr.ca.search.msn.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 Whats the difference between fragrance oils, infused oils and essential oils? •Fragrance oils are for making perfumes, potpourri, air freshener's etc. •Infused oils are a carrier oil - such as apricot or almond oil, that has minute amounts of essential oil or herbs extracts added to it. •Essential oils are very concentrated extracts of the oil from herbs, fruits, leaves, roots, etc. would the oil I used work as an aromatherapatic way or do the relaxing properties of the herb penetrate his skin •Both I want to know if it's better to make a tea and add to the wash or if using the oil is the same as using the tea(or infusion?) •The oil is more concentrated, just a few drops would be all that is needed. •No it isn't basically the same. •You need to find a recipe. It would tell you specifially what to use, and what type of method. I'm sorry, I am forgetful of names, is Wiliam the child with the sex-drive problem? If so let me know I have a reply to that also. Gaye Cheerfulness and contentment are great beautifiers and are famous preservers of youthful looks. ~Charles Dickens~ I'm interested in making body wash for the family. I have a couple of questions: Whats the difference between fragrance oils, infused oils and essential oils? If I wanted to make a relaxing body wash for William, would the oil I used work as an aromatherapatic way or do the relaxing properties of the herb penetrate his skin(does this ? make sense?) I want to know if it's better to make a tea and add to the wash or if using the oil is the same as using the tea(or infusion?). Is jojoba oil as wonderful as the label says it is? Thanks, Ann Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 Hi Ann, Fragrance oils are, well concocted in the laboratory type oils. Infused oils are where the herb is infuse in say... Almond oil or olive oil or Avocado oil. Essential oils are the essential oil of the plant. Many pounds of plants are distilled by either steam, water, CO2, solvents, or other means to extract the essential oil. These are the oils you normally use in aromatherapy. As for a relaxing body wash you would most likely wish to use an essential oil. However, you can use herb infused oils as well but then you won't have a body wash but a massage type oil. Essential oils are not truly an oil. They are extremely volatile liquids with some very interesting properties. Very concentrated too. Essential oils work in two modes, through inhalation and via skin absorption. If you decide to use an essential oil you will not use very much of it. Several drops per ounce of base or carrier oil. But this is more for a massage. For a body wash you would use more oil and put into a liquid soap, water, tea or something non-oily that will wash right off taking the majority of essential oils with it. Another aspect would be to place several drops of oil into the tub of water and swish it around really well then let William climb in and take his bath. He will still get the same effect. Or you can always check out what is known as an oil burner. Basically a little dish with a place underneath for a tea candle. Place water in the dish, light the candle and then add the essential oil/s to the water and the candle will gently heat the water and diffuse the oil into the surrounding air. Okay, I guess you get the picture and if Kim has any more to add I know she is quite up to date on EO's and aromatherapy. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask. HTH, Don Quai - Tohelpwilliam herbal remedies Thursday, July 10, 2003 4:07 AM [herbal remedies] soap making I'm interested in making body wash for the family. I have a couple of questions:Whats the difference between fragrance oils, infused oils and essential oils?If I wanted to make a relaxing body wash for William, would the oil I used work as an aromatherapatic way or do the relaxing properties of the herb penetrate his skin(does this ? make sense?) I want to know if it's better to make a tea and add to the wash or if using the oil is the same as using the tea(or infusion?).Is jojoba oil as wonderful as the label says it is? Thanks,Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 Just don't use fragrance oils Ann they are artificial. You can use tinctures, infused or essential oils. Infused is when you have a base oil like Avocado oil and add plant material like lavender flowers to it, let it sit for a day, strain, repeat till you have a nice strong oil. Essential Oil is pure plant material. It takes lots of plant to make just a tiny amount of EO. Most are steam distilled by boiling the plant in water and having a tube running from there thru ice and condensating into a container. Then the EO floats to the top and can be separated from the hydrosol (plant water). A natural soap product can have armatherapeutic, skin surface and some absorption properties. Some good relaxing herbs for you and Will would be lavender, chamomile, and passion flower. Remember when using EO you only need a few drops for a whole bottle while infused oils, infusions and tinctures can be used for liberally. Hope this helps, have fun :-) Janet - Tohelpwilliam herbal remedies Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:07 PM [herbal remedies] soap making I'm interested in making body wash for the family. I have a couple of questions:Whats the difference between fragrance oils, infused oils and essential oils?If I wanted to make a relaxing body wash for William, would the oil I used work as an aromatherapatic way or do the relaxing properties of the herb penetrate his skin(does this ? make sense?) I want to know if it's better to make a tea and add to the wash or if using the oil is the same as using the tea(or infusion?).Is jojoba oil as wonderful as the label says it is? Thanks,Ann Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 The properties of essential oils are inhibited by the heat. So a burner is not good to use. What propage really the properties are therapeutic diffusor (about 100$CAN). In the humidificator also, it doesn't work. It even breaks the humidificator. I just tought it is good to know! Neige ~*~§~*~ > " Don Quai " <mysticalherbalist >herbal remedies ><herbal remedies > >Re: [herbal remedies] soap making >Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:03:52 +0200 > >Hi Ann, > >Fragrance oils are, well concocted in the laboratory type oils. Infused >oils are where the herb is infuse in say... Almond oil or olive oil or >Avocado oil. Essential oils are the essential oil of the plant. Many pounds >of plants are distilled by either steam, water, CO2, solvents, or other >means to extract the essential oil. These are the oils you normally use in >aromatherapy. > >As for a relaxing body wash you would most likely wish to use an essential >oil. However, you can use herb infused oils as well but then you won't have >a body wash but a massage type oil. Essential oils are not truly an oil. >They are extremely volatile liquids with some very interesting properties. >Very concentrated too. Essential oils work in two modes, through inhalation >and via skin absorption. If you decide to use an essential oil you will not >use very much of it. Several drops per ounce of base or carrier oil. But >this is more for a massage. For a body wash you would use more oil and put >into a liquid soap, water, tea or something non-oily that will wash right >off taking the majority of essential oils with it. Another aspect would be >to place several drops of oil into the tub of water and swish it around >really well then let William climb in and take his bath. He will still get >the same effect. Or you can always check out what is known as an oil >burner. Basically a little dish with a place underneath for a tea candle. >Place water in the dish, light the candle and then add the essential oil/s >to the water and the candle will gently heat the water and diffuse the oil >into the surrounding air. > >Okay, I guess you get the picture and if Kim has any more to add I know she >is quite up to date on EO's and aromatherapy. If you have any more >questions, feel free to ask. > >HTH, > >Don Quai > >- > Tohelpwilliam > herbal remedies > Thursday, July 10, 2003 4:07 AM > [herbal remedies] soap making > > > I'm interested in making body wash for the family. I have a couple of >questions: > > Whats the difference between fragrance oils, infused oils and essential >oils? > > If I wanted to make a relaxing body wash for William, would the oil I >used work as an aromatherapatic way or do the relaxing properties of the >herb penetrate his skin(does this ? make sense?) I want to know if it's >better to make a tea and add to the wash or if using the oil is the same >as using the tea(or infusion?). > > Is jojoba oil as wonderful as the label says it is? > > Thanks, > Ann _______________ MSN Messenger : discutez en direct avec vos amis ! http://messenger.fr.msn.ca/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 If it is for a bath, I suggest you put dried relaxing herbs in a cotton bag. You hang this cotton bag on the water tube of the bath. Then, you open the water and the water will flow on thew cotton bag and make an infusion directly in the bath! After, you can leave the bag in the bath in you want it stronger. Some companies even sell it! Neige ~*~§~*~ >Tohelpwilliam >herbal remedies >herbal remedies >Re: [herbal remedies] soap making >Thu, 10 Jul 2003 14:43:08 EDT > >Thanks Don and everybody. This does help. This is my line of thinking. >William will lay(head and all) in a tub of water for a looooong time. I >was >trying to determine the best way to get the herb properties into his skin. >We can >kill several birds with one stone by tailor making soap for him(he gets >clean,I save money, and he gets the benefits of whatever herb I'm using) >Thanks again, >Ann >Jessica, thanks for the websites. > > > essential oils with it. Another aspect would be to place several drops >of > > oil into the tub of water and swish it around really well then let >William > > climb in and take his bath. > _______________ MSN Search, le moteur de recherche qui pense comme vous ! http://fr.ca.search.msn.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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