Guest guest Posted March 28, 2000 Report Share Posted March 28, 2000 RE: Young Living Oil Seminar Posting. selkey wrote: " I asked about using a carrier, but she said that a carrier is only used over the top of the essential if it causes burning. She also said that using water after the use of the essential oil will drive the essential oil into the skin, and she also recommended that. " Hello All- Oh my god! If I wasn't 7 1/2 months pregnant right now, I'd throw myself on the floor and have a fit! But then, how would I get up to proceed with my little tangent that is to follow? Susan please, forget whatever that woman was " teaching " at that seminar and stick to what you've learned from Valerie! The seminar " teacher " is obviously not versed in the true practice of aromatherapy, obviously has no real training nor does she understand the dangers of using neat essential oils upon the skin, aside from Lavender and Tea Tree. Some of the oils are very toxic, can aggrivate epilesy or high blood pressure, can cause tissue and organ damage, are skin irritants whether they burn the skin or not, and can be abortificants. The molecular structure of the essential oils alone are small enough to penetrate the skin without the use of water. (This is the first I've ever heard of that.) Carrier oils must be used! I seriously doubt that Rose, Worwood, Price, Lawless, Cooksley, Tisserand and Wildwood would EVER recommend using essential oils in this way. My personal opinion is this: As this is not the first time I have heard of YLEO's methods of training, after reading Susan's post I have to say that I am now truly disturbed by their method of teaching, and wonder how many more of these " aromatherapists " who have not truly taken the steps beyond the YLEO training to educate themselves are putting others at risk by teaching these practices. The Amway practice of aromatherapy is no way to learn, nor can you learn the basics by taking 2 or 3 days of training. Again, this is my own personal opinion. The bottom line is, certain essential oils can be toxic if not used properly. Teachings like this are one of the main reasons we really need to have some sort of national educational certification program and why aromatherapists need to be licensed. I know that England practices strong guidelines, and other countries in Europe do too, but here in the states anyone can say they are an aromatherapist without having any real training. Sorry to have gone off on a tangent - I'll get off my soap box now! Aromatic regards, Kimberly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2000 Report Share Posted March 30, 2000 Yes, I absolutely agree that YL's " raindrop therapy " is quite unintelligent. Even the theory behind it is quite suspect - " viruses and/or bacteria affecting the spinal muscles are the cause of scoliosis. Neat essential oils (all dermocaustic or skin irritants) will kill them off and resolve the scoliosis. The more irritated or hot the skin becomes, this is a sign of the infection... " Absolutely zero proof for such a statement. And skin irritation is ridiculously being associated with the so-called infection!! Hey, maybe such a treatment can be helpful - but I personally reccommend no more than a 10% to 20% concentration of such EO's in a vegetable oil base - and no hot water - because water will INCREASE the skin irritation, and is not necessary for penetration. Lastly, I do disagree with you regarding your remarks about pregnancy. Just about all the Aromatherapy books have got it wrong re: toxicity in pregnancy. Any common oil can be used topically (up to 2.5%) in massage, etc. during pregnancy with absolutely no problem. I have a paper, entitled " Toxicity Myths " , which details this further. However, I would agree that such a treatment would not be recommended during pregnancy - better to wait. Cheers, Ron Guba ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2000 Report Share Posted March 31, 2000 I also get so annoyed by these hocus pocus explanations. What on earth does " drive the essential oil into the skin " even mean? :-) Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2000 Report Share Posted March 31, 2000 Hi Ron I am interested in " Any common oil can be used topically (up to 2.5%) in massage, > etc. during pregnancy with absolutely no problem. I have a paper, entitled " Toxicity Myths " , which details this further. " Is this a paper you have written? Is it possible to obtain a copy at all? or some more info? Thanks Nerys Australia nerick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2000 Report Share Posted March 31, 2000 Ron, I agree that it is a questionable theory (to put it politely). I have absolutely nothing against alternative forms of healing, whether they are proven to work or not, just so long as they don't do harm to others. So while Raindrop therapy doesn't bug me in the least, the use of oils neat does. As for this theory regarding scoliosis--my training and experience as an occupational therapist definitely leads me to believe this is " hocus pocus. " Scoliosis was one of the first conditions I studied in my orthopedic pathology course, and in no way is there any evidence that there is a bacterial or viral origin. I'm not sure it is known what causes it. And since it is an orthopedic disorder (structural), I cannot fathom how any essential oil can correct it. Now, it's possible people feel some type of relief from the whole process surrounding this therapy (placebo effect?), or that the oils help them relax a bit, but how on earth could it correct a structural deformity? It makes no sense whatsoever. Amy > Yes, I absolutely agree that YL's " raindrop therapy " is quite unintelligent. > Even the theory behind it is quite suspect - " viruses and/or bacteria > affecting the spinal muscles are the cause of scoliosis. Neat essential oils > (all dermocaustic or skin irritants) will kill them off and resolve the > scoliosis. The more irritated or hot the skin becomes, this is a sign of the > infection... " Absolutely zero proof for such a statement. And skin > irritation is ridiculously being associated with the so-called infection!! > Hey, maybe such a treatment can be helpful - but I personally reccommend no > more than a 10% to 20% concentration of such EO's in a vegetable oil base - > and no hot water - because water will INCREASE the skin irritation, and is > not necessary for penetration. > > Lastly, I do disagree with you regarding your remarks about pregnancy. Just > about all the Aromatherapy books have got it wrong re: toxicity in > pregnancy. Any common oil can be used topically (up to 2.5%) in massage, > etc. during pregnancy with absolutely no problem. I have a paper, entitled > " Toxicity Myths " , which details this further.>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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