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My daughter had whooping cough in May and now is continuing to cough, wheeze,

and has tremendous nausea. Throws up, is cold alot...

 

Our doctor is alternative and has a background in TCM. He has given us

some Tablets made by " Health Concerns " called Clear Air. They contain:

Ma Huang, Kuan Dong Hua, SuZi, KuXing Ren, Sang Bai Pi, Tian Hua Fen, Zhe Bei

Mu, Jie Geng, Zi Wan, She Gan, Huang Qin, Wu Wei Zi, Gan Cao, Ban Xia.

 

He has also given us a tincture called Quiet Contemplative with even more

things...

 

Last night She was quite congested. I calmed :Lu10GV14, CV17 and B13, Lu1

and Lu9. (from a book)

 

I massaged her back and front with Eucalyptus g. and Rosemary camphor.

 

I steamed her with Cajeput and more Eucalyptus and Hyssop decombens.

 

While I was able to at least clear her somewhat..I am not really seeing any

real results. We have an appointment with a pediatric pulmonologist next

week (she is 12) I am NOT looking forward to this..There will be talk I am

sure of medications that appall me. However, she has been ill for so long

that her life has been put on hold.

 

Is there anything you can suggest to help me?

 

Do you know of anyone in the NYC area? I live in Bergen County NJ and the

closest to us the better.

 

Thank you, Gail

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Let me try this again. I just tried replying to this and got cut off in the

middle when I hit a key. I'm not sure if the partial reply got sent or not.

 

>My daughter had whooping cough in May and now is continuing to cough,

>wheeze,

>and has tremendous nausea. Throws up, is cold alot...

 

Is breathing in harder than breathing out, or are they equal in difficulty,

or is breathing out harder than breathing in? Does she have the most

trouble breathing when lying down? Are the breathing problems worse at

night or in the day or equal? Are the breathing problems aggravated by damp

weather or dry weather?

 

What color is her tongue tissue? Is there a coating, and what color is it?

Is her pulse rapid or slow? (How many beats per minute?) Is the pulse easy

to find and strong, or is it weak and hard to find?

 

What are bowel movements and urination like? Constipation? Diarrhea? A lot

of clear urine? Scanty dark-colored urine? Consistency of stools? Mushy?

Hard and small?

 

Is she very thirsty? Does she crave cold drinks? What is her appetite

like? Does eating help the nausea or make it worse?

 

>Our doctor is alternative and has a background in TCM.

 

How much of a background? Can he do a TCM tongue diagnosis and pulse

diagnosis and a TCM-style questionnaire? Is he trained in diagnosing TCM

syndromes or is he using TCM herbs and formulas within a framework of

Western medicine or Western herbalism?

 

>He has given us

>some Tablets made by " Health Concerns " called Clear Air.

 

How long has she been on this formula and the other? TCM moniters clients

very closely and changes treatment frequently as the clinical picture

changes. Otherwise, a formula which is just right at one stage can end up

creating problems later.

 

To be continued. I want to get this out in case the computer acts up again

or I hit the wrong key.

 

Victoria

 

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>Ma Huang, Kuan Dong Hua, SuZi, KuXing Ren, Sang Bai Pi, Tian Hua Fen, Zhe

>Bei

>Mu, Jie Geng, Zi Wan, She Gan, Huang Qin, Wu Wei Zi, Gan Cao, Ban Xia.

 

Ma Huang - Hb Ephedra - Relieve Wind Chill

Kuan Dong Hua - can't find this one

SuZi -Fr Perillae Frutescentis - Relieves cough

Ku Xing Ren - can't find this one

Sang Bai Pi - mulberry tree bark - Cx Mori Albae Radicis - Relieves cough

Tian Hua Fen - snakegourd root - Rx Trichosanthis - Transforms Hot Phlegm

Zhe Bei Mu - Bulbus Fritillariae Thanbergri - transforms Hot Phlegm

Jie Geng - balloonflower root - Rx Platycodi - Transform Cold (or Hot)

Phlegm

Zi Wan - purple aster root - Rx Asteris Tatarici - Relieves cough

She Gan - blackberry lily rhizome - Rz Belamcandae - Clear Heat Toxin

Huang Qin - skullcap - Rx Scutellaria - Clear Damp Heat

Wu Wei Zi - schizandra - astringes

Gan Cao - licorice root - Qi tonic but probably used in this formula to

harmonize the other ingredients

Ban Xiz - Rz Pinelliae - transforms Cold Phlegm - toxic

 

My apologies for any typos in this list or mistakes in transcribing. My

proof-reading talents are worse than my spelling and typing - and they're

bad.

 

>He has also given us a tincture called Quiet Contemplative with even more

>things...

>

>Last night She was quite congested. I calmed :Lu10GV14, CV17 and B13, Lu1

>and Lu9. (from a book)

 

See the post on Pericardium 6. Not all the points used in treating lung

disorders are on the Lung meridian.

 

I can't diagnose via email, just list some of the things that a TCM healer

would consider. This is just a partial list.

 

Was the pathogen cleared completely? (Was she on antibiotics at one point?)

Is the person stuck in the ShaoYang-stage of Cold-Induced Evils? (Is there

fever alternating with chills?) BTW, antibiotics only work for Excess Heat

problems. They can make people with Deficiency Heat sicker.

 

TaiYin-stage Evil of the Cold-Induced Evils? The questions about tongue

color, coating, pulse rate, and some other questions was considering this

possibility (as well as others). TaiYin-stage Evil often results from

excessive or prolonged treatment of Yang-stages of the Cold-Induced Evils.

 

Other list members may have other ideas.

 

>Do you know of anyone in the NYC area? I live in Bergen County NJ and the

>closest to us the better.

 

Sorry. I live across country. Another member may know of someone in that

area.

 

Victoria

 

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Gail,

 

Living as close to NYC as you do, there will be dozens of TCM doctors to

choose from. Go to your local health food store and ask if anyone can make

a referral for you. There is a woman in the Village who has written TCM

several books--Letha Hadady. She sees patients, but if she is booked, she

probably could recommend someone for you.

 

Also, check out these referral lists which I got from the American

Association of Oriental Medicine site. Its homepage is

http://www.aaom.org/

 

Referral list for NY http://www.aaom.org/refer/newyork.html

Referral list for NJ http://www.aaom.org/refer/newjersey.html

 

Good luck.

 

Lynn

 

 

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http://www.rainbowreiki.com

 

Lehigh Valley Branch of the Reiki Cooperative

http://www.lvreikicooperative.com

 

 

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Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Digest Number 142

 

 

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>My daughter had whooping cough in May and now is continuing to cough,

wheeze,

>and has tremendous nausea. Throws up, is cold alot...

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