Phobias

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Hi Bruce and Other List Buds!

 

At 09:02 PM 11/14/99 +1300, you wrote:

>Bruce <mediate

>I am a total newbie around romatherapy. However, I do have something to

>offer Robin, and also T (Tracy).

>

>I am a counsellor who is currently serious student of NLP (Neurolinguistic

>Programming). If you want to eliminate a phobia, NLP has a lot to offer. It

>is a reputable, and sometimes controversial, therapy system. Phobia cure is

>probably its most potent benefit NLP offers. The only other ways you would

>be likely to deal effectively with phobias that I know of are hypnotherapy,

>or traditional psychoanalytic therapy (which takes literally years).

 

I agree with everything you say here except one might also include behavior

modification techniques, hypnotherapy (yes, by a *certified

hypnotherapist),.. but of course NLP (as *I* understand it) is basically a

behavior modification technique. Am I " barking up the right tree here " ?

Perhaps I'm using the term behaviour modification in too general a sense.

(I always tend to think on a more " grand " scale I suppose than most people

... a blessing and a curse :-)

 

>

>Given a competent practitioner, it is unlikely that you will still

>experience the phobia in a debilitating way if at all after 1 to 3

>sessions. Two characteristics of NLP are firstly that it works quickly

>(this is one of the reasons some more traditional therapists doubt it;

>another is that inexperienced and inadequately trained practitioners try it

>on people and lo and behold it doesn't work!) and secondly that the

>practitioner does not even need to know what the particular phobia is (that

>may sound amazing - we work with processes of the mind rather than specific

>content, so we call this work " content free " ).

>Plese give me and the list some feedback and don't hesitate to voice any

>specific concerns you may have.

 

Hmmm, actually, maybe I'd like to hear more about this NLP stuff. Please

please do tell us more!!! I guess I am a bit concerned with things that DO

effect us on a subconscious level... and I don't think I'm understanding

this form of therapy after all. What you say below is VERY interesting and

valid and ...

>

>Possibly of general interest:

>

>My NLP trainer (one of a very few " master " trainers in the world) believes

>that the next major breakthrough in the area of human behaviour will be in

>aromatherapy, and he talks in terms of a 30 year time span. (That's one of

>the reasons I'm on this list, btw.)

 

I absolutely agree here in certain respects .... due to my medical

background however, I think also in terms of physical (but physical simply

being that part of " science " that can be measured and researched ... i.e.

this eo effective against this pathogenic organism etc.). Holistically

speaking, I see *everything* affecting the " whole " (including the physcial)

.... and health as a delicate balanced RELATIONSHIP between the body, mind,

spirit, emotions, *environment*, people, etc.

 

I am a firm believer in PNI or PNEI research .. (Psychoneuroendoimmunology)

and have come across a scant amount of research that involves the sense of

smell .. that when used in conjunction with other things, can indeed elicit

various physiological responses.

 

NLP examines our " representational

>systems " with reference to our senses.

 

Would you please explain " representational systems?

 

Mostly the work has involved V

>(visual), A (auditory) and K (kinesthetic). K either includes or ignores

>(depending on contest) the two other senses which are named olfactory and

>gustatory, so the fuller picture is VAKOG. Olfactory is the only one which

>connects directly with the reptilian brain without being intercepted and

>processed by another of the body's systems, hence its potential, and

>efficacy already as aromatherapists know.

 

Actually, most of the valid research work done with regards to emotions and

behavior have been in the realm Aromachology rather than Aromatherapy.

(I'm not saying all ... but most). It absolutely DOES stand to reason that

*because* the sense of smell is the ONLY one of our senses that links the

outside world *directly* (hot wires the brain so to speak) to the inner

workings of the brain at *several* levels (the limbic system which controls

basic body needs ... on upward to other more advanced parts of our brain).

THAT is indeed what fascinates ME the most about essential oils... and

aromatherapy in general.

This is an area where more research and study holds the greatest potential

(in my opinion) ... along with using AT to empower a person through

*appropriate* safe, self care *and* help them manage stress (stress from

all angles).

 

Warmly

Wishing you Joy, Hope, Health and Healing,

Susan Renkel, RN/Changes Within

Holistic Care Consultant who uses Aromatherapy as *part of a solution for

some, rarely the *whole* solution for anyone!

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I would exercise caution regarding hypnotherapy-----

The standard length of time for " certification " is weeks

rather than the years it takes to become a decent " Shrink "

 

The " certification " process for hypnotherapy

can be very questionable. And vary greatly

from " school " to " school. "

 

An aquaintance of mine attended a two weekend " training " and

now calls himself a " Board Certified Hypnotherapist " !!

Give me a break!!