Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 Does Toms have glycol in it? Donna In a message dated 1/13/02 2:20:52 AM, BonnieBar writes: << You know, so far the only deod I had found withou aluminum was Tom's Deod. I've been using it for years now. I have vitiligo (like Michael Jackson) and my all white underarms are now FULLY recolored :-). Toms' is the only one I >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 In a message dated 13/1/02 12:06:29 GMT Standard Time, dfnewman writes: Neways doesn't but it has methyl propanedial - whatever that is...... Marianne > I find that all alum free deodarants have propylene glycol in them instead. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 ME too!!!!! I dont even use alum in recipes... Donna In a message dated 1/12/02 10:20:01 PM, jklein writes: << Why would you avoid alum? Nanci I would avoid alum like the plague. Alobar >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 The natural crystal deod has aluminum in it. It says so right on the ingredients. The " only " natural deod I have ever known of (and I've researched this on 2 other lists and the net) is Tom's Deod. Bon In a message dated 1/13/2002 4:33:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, alobar writes: << - <marianne2406 Sunday, January 13, 2002 2:56 AM Re: Re: Aluminium Free Deodorant > In a message dated 12/1/02 22:19:34 GMT Standard Time, jklein > writes: > > I am not sure where you can purchase it but there is also a deodorant stone > (I first came across these in Brisbane 4 years ago) they are totally natural > (http://www.ssmartco.com/deo) did a quick search and this was the first site > that came up. > Marianne > Call me suspicious. The website says: > A Deodorant Stone or Crystal is made from natural mineral salts which > occur in abundance in the earth's surface. The primary mineral is > potassium sulfate. In another place, the website says: > Deodorant Stones do not contain Aluminum Chlorodydrate So, we are told there are salts (plural) but only told what one salt is. We are told there is no Aluminum Chlorodydrate, but not given any assurances that the stone is free from other Alums or aluminum salts. Alobar >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 In a message dated 13/1/02 18:11:09 GMT Standard Time, BonnieBar writes: We can't get that here but thanks for the info, I must let my sister know as she is using a deo stone now. Marianne > The natural crystal deod has aluminum in it. It says so right on the > ingredients. The " only " natural deod I have ever known of (and I've > researched this on 2 other lists and the net) is Tom's Deod. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 In a message dated 13/1/02 18:47:49 GMT Standard Time, alobar writes: Horrible things I think having read it properly (I checked it out on the web but it meant nothing to me but looked evil) Methyl Propanediol, myrrh extract, sage extract, eucalyptus extract, coriander extract, witch hazel, distilate, aloe vera, vegetable protein extract, odor destroying fragrance. Marianne > What is in it? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 Wow, learn something new everyday, I had no idea alum was aluminum salt! Thanks for the info! Nanci Anxiety does not empty tomorrow of its sorrows, but only empties today of its strength. Charles H. Spurgeon (1834-1892) - Alobar Gettingwell Sunday, January 13, 2002 1:09 AM Re: Re: Aluminium Free Deodorant Alum is an aluminum salt. Alum can be very caustic to the skin in people who are chemical sensitive. There are higher than normal Aluminum deposits in the brains of those with senile dementia. No absolute proof but many I have talked with seem to implicate cooking in Aluminum cookware & using alum deodorant as possible dangers leading to senility in old age. Alobar - " Nanci Klein " <jklein Saturday, January 12, 2002 7:36 PM Re: Re: Aluminium Free Deodorant > > > > Why would you avoid alum? > Nanci > I would avoid alum like the plague. > > Alobar > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 Tom's deod. is chemical free. Anyone can buy it anywhere - just go to the netsite - it lists where to purchase or order online. I won't buy anything with undefined ingredients and preferably no chemicals. " Fragrance " does not define the chemical or natural ingredient making the fragrance. I prefer to use nothing undefined. I like to know what's in it. BonnieB In a message dated 1/13/2002 2:16:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, marianne2406 writes: << Horrible things I think having read it properly (I checked it out on the web but it meant nothing to me but looked evil) Methyl Propanediol, myrrh extract, sage extract, eucalyptus extract, coriander extract, witch hazel, distilate, aloe vera, vegetable protein extract, odor destroying fragrance. Marianne > What is in it? > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 - <marianne2406 Sunday, January 13, 2002 4:21 AM Re: Re: Aluminium Free Deodorant > In a message dated 13/1/02 09:11:11 GMT Standard Time, alobar > writes: > > Alobar - the Neways deo does not contain alum at all according to the > container..... > > > Alum is an aluminum salt. > What is in it? Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 Can anyone on the list tell me if propylene glycol is toxic? Thanks Donna In a message dated 1/13/02 8:27:12 PM, BonnieBar writes: << Tom's deod. is chemical free. Anyone can buy it anywhere - just go to the netsite - it lists where to purchase or order online. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 In a message dated 14/1/02 17:17:41 GMT Standard Time, joguest writes: ON double time now................ > --- Hmmm, I would say his guardian angel is working overtime! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 --- Bonnie, Could you direct me to their site? JoAnn BonnieBar@a... wrote: > You know, so far the only deod I had found withou aluminum was Tom's Deod. > I've been using it for years now. I have vitiligo (like Michael Jackson) and > my all white underarms are now FULLY recolored :-). Toms' is the only one I > had found that had NO chemicals. The product you noted in this site mentions > only herbs, but I wonder if there is anything else in it, not mentioned. > Anyone know? By the way, Tom's is great, low cost and no mailing and > ordering. Drug Emporium and healthfood stores carry it, and you can also go > to their site. > > BonnieB > > << > marianne2406@a... wrote: > > Hi - I think it was JoAnn asking about an aluminium free deodorant > but for > > all who are interested, try this site:- > > > > http://usa.neways.com/ > > > > Marianne > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 --- Alobar, Add to that the aluminum in traditional baking powder! JoAnn " Alobar " <alobar@b...> wrote: > Alum is an aluminum salt. Alum can be very caustic to the skin in > people who are chemical sensitive. There are higher than normal Aluminum > deposits in the brains of those with senile dementia. No absolute proof but > many I have talked with seem to implicate cooking in Aluminum cookware & > using alum deodorant as possible dangers leading to senility in old age. > > Alobar > > > - > " Nanci Klein " <jklein@g...> > <Gettingwell> > Saturday, January 12, 2002 7:36 PM > Re: Re: Aluminium Free Deodorant > > > > > > > > > > Why would you avoid alum? > > Nanci > > I would avoid alum like the plague. > > > > Alobar > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 --- Marianne, Now that I have never heard. I am just concerned about the aluminum as I know it is connected to Alzheimers and memory loss plus some other health issues. I think the aluminum in baking powder is the worst b/c one ingests it, but I am aware that everything is absorbed through one's skin. I will try the Neways. sounds super. A few of my friends use the deodorant stone. That might be a possibility too. Thanks for all your help Marianne. JoAnn marianne2406@a... wrote: > In a message dated 13/1/02 01:36:11 GMT Standard Time, joguest@m... > writes: > > JoAnn - antiperspirant are bad for you are they not? I believe that they > block the pores so that you cannot perspire at that point or some such - > which is not good for you - I know someone on the group will have the answes > to this. > Marianne > > > > Is it an antiperspirant or just a deodorant? I find that witch > > hazel works also...just isn't an antiperspirant. > > thanks for the suggestions > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 --- Hmmm, I would say his guardian angel is working overtime! marianne2406@a... wrote: > In a message dated 13/1/02 01:54:48 GMT Standard Time, joguest@m... > writes: > > He was - he seems to bounce back from anything - that was the 3rd accident he > had, and the worst. The other 2 times he was hit by a car also (he cycles to > work on a push bike) and he just got up and walked to work (both times the > cycle was unridable. This time, the cycle was a complete wreck and it was > brought back to us tied up with string, like a small parcel, by the police. > He was unconscious for 20 minutes, spent 2 days in hospital and, other than > the loss of his sense of smell and a damaged thumb - not a thing. Someone is > definitely looking after him. > > So sorry....no pun intended > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 --- Donna, There is an aluminum-free baking powder available in our health food stores over here. Makes a very healthy substitute for the traditionals varieties. Tastes the same too. :-) JoAnn dfnewman@a... wrote: > ME too!!!!! > I dont even use alum in recipes... > Donna > In a message dated 1/12/02 10:20:01 PM, jklein@g... writes: > > << > > Why would you avoid alum? > Nanci > I would avoid alum like the plague. > > Alobar > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 I went looking for a baking powder recipe, here is what I found. Baking Powder 1/2 teaspoon cream of tartar 1/4 teaspoon baking soda 1/4 teaspoon cornstarch < There is an aluminum-free baking powder available in our health food stores over here.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 - " mrsjoguest " <joguest Monday, January 14, 2002 10:57 AM Re: Aluminium Free Deodorant > --- Alobar, > Add to that the aluminum in traditional baking powder! > JoAnn " Alobar " <alobar@b...> wrote: > > Alum is an aluminum salt. Alum can be very caustic to the > skin in > > people who are chemical sensitive. There are higher than normal > Aluminum > > deposits in the brains of those with senile dementia. No absolute > proof but > > many I have talked with seem to implicate cooking in Aluminum > cookware & > > using alum deodorant as possible dangers leading to senility in old > age. > > > > Alobar Most certainly! I had forgotten about baking powder because I never use it anyway. Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 --- I would want to make sure the corn in the cornstarch is GMO free... " Nanci Klein " <jklein@g...> wrote: > I went looking for a baking powder recipe, here is what I found. > > Baking Powder > > 1/2 teaspoon cream of tartar > 1/4 teaspoon baking soda > 1/4 teaspoon cornstarch > > < There is an aluminum-free baking powder available in our health > food stores over here.> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 I went to search on www.google.com and put in tom's deodorant and found <A HREF= " http://www.toms-of-maine.com/toms/product.asp?dept_id=500 & pf_id=BW-ND " > Tom's of Maine - Shop Online - Natural Deodorant</A> http://www.toms-of-maine.com/toms/product.asp?dept_id=500 & pf_id=BW-ND] good luck Bon In a message dated 1/14/2002 11:49:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, joguest writes: << --- Bonnie, Could you direct me to their site? JoAnn BonnieBar@a... wrote: > You know, so far the only deod I had found withou aluminum was Tom's Deod. > I've been using it for years now. I have vitiligo (like Michael Jackson) and > my all white underarms are now FULLY recolored :-). Toms' is the only one I > had found that had NO chemicals. The product you noted in this site mentions > only herbs, but I wonder if there is anything else in it, not mentioned. > Anyone know? By the way, Tom's is great, low cost and no mailing and > ordering. Drug Emporium and healthfood stores carry it, and you can also go > to their site. > > BonnieB >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 remember the deod stone does have alum in it... Bon In a message dated 1/14/2002 12:17:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, joguest writes: << --- Marianne, Now that I have never heard. I am just concerned about the aluminum as I know it is connected to Alzheimers and memory loss plus some other health issues. I think the aluminum in baking powder is the worst b/c one ingests it, but I am aware that everything is absorbed through one's skin. I will try the Neways. sounds super. A few of my friends use the deodorant stone. That might be a possibility too. Thanks for all your help Marianne. JoAnn >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 breast cancer runs in the females in my family. we have all be told by our own (different) doctors never to use antiperspirant (guess where all that perspiration goes when you sweat and wear antiperspirant). sure it keeps you dry, but clogs the pores, so the bacteria cannot get out of your pore. deod is ok - though you may sweat. the natural deod kills the odor, instead of blocking the pore. Bon In a message dated 1/14/2002 12:17:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, joguest writes: << > In a message dated 13/1/02 01:36:11 GMT Standard Time, joguest@m... > writes: > > JoAnn - antiperspirant are bad for you are they not? I believe that they > block the pores so that you cannot perspire at that point or some such - > which is not good for you - I know someone on the group will have the answes > to this. > Marianne > > > > Is it an antiperspirant or just a deodorant? I find that witch > > hazel works also...just isn't an antiperspirant. > > thanks for the suggestions > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 Yes but my Tom's has propylene glycol in it , does yours>? Donna In a message dated 1/14/02 9:31:25 PM, BonnieBar writes: << I went to search on www.google.com and put in tom's deodorant and found Tom's of Maine - Shop Online - Natural Deodorant http://www.toms-of-maine.com/toms/product.asp?dept_id=500 & pf_id=BW-ND] good luck Bon >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2002 Report Share Posted January 15, 2002 BonnieBar wrote: > breast cancer runs in the females in my family. we have all be told by our > own (different) doctors never to use antiperspirant (guess where all that > perspiration goes when you sweat and wear antiperspirant). sure it keeps you > dry, but clogs the pores, so the bacteria cannot get out of your pore. deod > is ok - though you may sweat. the natural deod kills the odor, instead of > blocking the pore. Bon Then does zinc oxide also block the pores? Or...? Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2002 Report Share Posted January 15, 2002 --- Thank you SO much! BonnieBar@a... wrote: > I went to search on www.google.com and put in tom's deodorant and found <A > HREF= " http://www.toms-of-maine.com/toms/product.asp? dept_id=500 & pf_id=BW-ND " > > Tom's of Maine - Shop Online - Natural Deodorant</A> > http://www.toms-of-maine.com/toms/product.asp?dept_id=500 & pf_id=BW- ND] > > good luck Bon > > In a message dated 1/14/2002 11:49:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, > joguest@m... writes: > > << > --- Bonnie, > Could you direct me to their site? > JoAnn > BonnieBar@a... wrote: > > You know, so far the only deod I had found withou aluminum was > Tom's Deod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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