Guest guest Posted January 24, 2001 Report Share Posted January 24, 2001 Heating oils does deplete the benefits- Sorcy I do believe has the temp guideline in the files under healthy ways- (may not have the name right). June > Hey, does anybody know if the EFAs in flaxseed are > > damaged or destroyed by the amount of heat > necessary to, say, bake a loaf of bread? It's a > heckuva lot easier to get a few tablespoons of the > > stuff a day if it's in my bread, muffins, etc. > than if I have to chuck it into my smoothies, on > top of my oatmeal, etc. I'm just thinking, since > so many fats are denatured by heat, maybe this one > > is, too, and I should just eat the stuff raw . . . > > Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2001 Report Share Posted January 24, 2001 --- Nutrition and Healthy ways file. Then Omega 3 and omega 6 June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2001 Report Share Posted January 24, 2001 > Re: Flaxseed > > --- Nutrition and Healthy ways file. > > Then Omega 3 and omega 6 > June The temperature info in the file says, " Use only in cold preparations, lower than 20* " -- does this mean I can only use flaxseed in ice cream? Or perhaps a typo :-) If it's supposed to be 200*, that I can manage. Can I assume that the temperature info in this file is in Farenheit? Thanks, Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2001 Report Share Posted January 24, 2001 I just looked in my temp guide for oil and it states 120f/49c for flax seed- which is cold prep only. Which also includes: borage, Hemp and soy If you bake at 325 degrees- moisture keep the inside temp. at around 212 degrees so low heat oils could be used. safflower oil sunflower pumpkin seed. Moderate heat oils are;to 325 degrees Seasame Pistachio Almond oil Hazelnut Olive High Heat to 375 degrees Coconut Ghee My Temp guide is from Omega Nutrition- they sent it when I ordered. June Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of Naturopathyian_shillington Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2001 Report Share Posted January 24, 2001 --- Was a typo- The 1 was left off- 120 degrees. > > If it's supposed to be 200*, that I can manage. Can I assume that the temperature info in this file is in > Farenheit? > > Thanks, > Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2001 Report Share Posted July 12, 2001 Peela, I've never gotten rancid oil from the refrigerated section of the health food store. I keep my Flax oil in the refrigerator just as it was when i purchased it. Elaine [herbal remedies] Flaxseed > Ian, even after all your information a while back on > flaxseed oil I decided to try some from the > supermarket- in a black plastic bottle- a brand you > can get here in health food stores. It was incredibly > bitter and rancid and I threw it straight in the bin. > I am amazed and frustrated they can get away with > selling that stuff to ignorant people! I will try the > glass bottled one again- it went rancid in my fridge > after not long, but I didnt know if it was rancid when > I bought it- I didnt know how to tell, then. An > expensive exercise, all this- maybe I will just try > UDO's- its twice the price here is OZ but could be > worth it! Good to learn this stuff- I have told > several clents in the past to just go get some > flaxseed oil, not knowing any better. > loving this list > love > peela > > > > > Get personalized email addresses from Mail > http://personal.mail./ > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2001 Report Share Posted July 12, 2001 Being a member of a group that preaches making your own remedies as much as possible, why would you be buying flax seed oil instead of grinding your own flax seed (which in most cases supplies more benefit) and eliminating rancidity risks by grinding as needed? And I assume you are talking Udo's Ultimate Blend? This is good for people to bring balance, or for females, especially who have certain hormonal, or weight loss issues (ie. a lot of fat free foods), but flax is different from borage, is different from evening primrose, etc., etc.. Just my oppinion: In Health, Steve herbal remedies, Shobbrook Susan <peelasacha> wrote: > Ian, even after all your information a while back on > flaxseed oil I decided to try some from the > supermarket- in a black plastic bottle- a brand you > can get here in health food stores. It was incredibly > bitter and rancid and I threw it straight in the bin. > I am amazed and frustrated they can get away with > selling that stuff to ignorant people! I will try the > glass bottled one again- it went rancid in my fridge > after not long, but I didnt know if it was rancid when > I bought it- I didnt know how to tell, then. An > expensive exercise, all this- maybe I will just try > UDO's- its twice the price here is OZ but could be > worth it! Good to learn this stuff- I have told > several clents in the past to just go get some > flaxseed oil, not knowing any better. > loving this list > love > peela > > > > > Get personalized email addresses from Mail > http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2001 Report Share Posted July 13, 2001 - " Shobbrook Susan " <peelasacha <herbal remedies > Thursday, July 12, 2001 5:08 PM [herbal remedies] Flaxseed > I have told > several clients in the past to just go get some > flaxseed oil, not knowing any better. > loving this list > love Hi Peela, Get a coffee grinder and grind it fresh from flax / linseeds. Put anything left over in a sealed glass jar in the freezer. I take 3 tablespoons a day. That gives me 36 g of which 20 % is Omega 3 oil or about 7 g. At an internal conversion of 10 % that gives me about 700 mg of EPA, some of which is then converted into DHA or about 350 mg of each. I also take 2 fish oil tablets mid day to boost my daily total to around 700 mg each. As Omega 6 will compete for the conversion enzymes (D5D & D6D), it is best to take the bulk of your ground flax seed first thing in the morning. I mix 2 tablespoons in my breakfast smoothie along with blueberries (excellent natural anti-oxidants!), kiwi fruit, strawberries, banana, yogurt & soy milk. The other 2 tablespoons are taken with my Anti-Aging protocol mixture 3 times a day. http://www.ozemail.com.au/~gowatson/protocol.html Much better than the oil as the shell of the flax seed has additional benefits. Greg, http://www.ozemail.com.au/~gowatson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2001 Report Share Posted July 13, 2001 why would you be > buying flax seed oil instead of grinding your own > flax seed (which in most cases supplies more > benefit) and eliminating rancidity risks by grinding > as needed? Because its for my 7 year old daughter this time, mostly, and she wont be able to get the quantities into her- if I can get her to try any- of flaxmeal- wheras I can disguise the oil on her food. i think. (read- hope!) Its just a quantities thing. I went to our best Health Food Store where I saw UDO's before, and they had none, so I may get into the flaxmeal anyway, myself. I dont much like the taste, tastes like cardboard for me, and I am not much good at long term adherence to stuff like that- much better at shorter stints at something stronger. love peela Get personalized email addresses from Mail http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2001 Report Share Posted July 14, 2001 - " Shobbrook Susan " <peelasacha <herbal remedies > Friday, July 13, 2001 7:14 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Flaxseed > Because its for my 7 year old daughter this time, > mostly, and she wont be able to get the quantities > into her- if I can get her to try any- of flaxmeal- > whereas I can disguise the oil on her food. i think. > (read- hope!) Its just a quantities thing. > I went to our best Health Food Store where I saw UDO's > before, and they had none, so I may get into the > flaxmeal anyway, myself. I dont much like the taste, > tastes like cardboard for me, and I am not much good > at long term adherence to stuff like that- much better > at shorter stints at something stronger. > love Hi Peela, Have a go at the KIM software as it looks like you can put together a diet which balances the n-6 : n-3 ratio close to 1 : 1 without needing flax oil. Greg, On the road to becoming a Vegan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2001 Report Share Posted July 14, 2001 herbal remedies, Shobbrook Susan <peelasacha> wrote: > > why would you be > > buying flax seed oil instead of grinding your own > > flax seed (which in most cases supplies more > > benefit) and eliminating rancidity risks by grinding > > as needed? > > Because its for my 7 year old daughter this time, > mostly, and she wont be able to get the quantities > into her- if I can get her to try any- of flaxmeal- > wheras I can disguise the oil on her food. i think. > (read- hope!) Its just a quantities thing. > I went to our best Health Food Store where I saw UDO's > before, and they had none, so I may get into the > flaxmeal anyway, myself. I dont much like the taste, > tastes like cardboard for me, and I am not much good > at long term adherence to stuff like that- much better > at shorter stints at something stronger. > love > peela > > > > Get personalized email addresses from Mail > http://personal.mail./ There are many ways to get flax seed into your diet; I use it on my cereal,= I've cooked with it, and I'm always seeing recipes (dressings, etc.)! Besides, I've always heard the taste referenced as " nutty " (and tend to agr= ee), never " cardboard-y " ! In Health, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2001 Report Share Posted July 14, 2001 - <bigbird3969 <herbal remedies > Saturday, July 14, 2001 11:53 PM [herbal remedies] Re: Flaxseed > Because its for my 7 year old daughter this time, > mostly, and she wont be able to get the quantities > into her- if I can get her to try any- of flaxmeal- > whereas I can disguise the oil on her food. i think. HI Pella, Why are you feeding your daughter flax? Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2001 Report Share Posted July 15, 2001 Dear Elaine, it was refridgerated, sealed, in a dark bottle-plastic though- and very rancid. love peela --- elaine davis <twobears wrote: > Peela, I've never gotten rancid oil from the > refrigerated section of the > health food store. I keep my Flax oil in the > refrigerator just as it was > when i purchased it. > Elaine > [herbal remedies] Flaxseed > > > > Ian, even after all your information a while back > on > > flaxseed oil I decided to try some from the > > supermarket- in a black plastic bottle- a brand > you > > can get here in health food stores. It was > incredibly > > bitter and rancid and I threw it straight in the > bin. > > I am amazed and frustrated they can get away with > > selling that stuff to ignorant people! I will try > the > > glass bottled one again- it went rancid in my > fridge > > after not long, but I didnt know if it was rancid > when > > I bought it- I didnt know how to tell, then. An > > expensive exercise, all this- maybe I will just > try > > UDO's- its twice the price here is OZ but could be > > worth it! Good to learn this stuff- I have told > > several clents in the past to just go get some > > flaxseed oil, not knowing any better. > > loving this list > > love > > peela > > > > > > > > > > Get personalized email addresses from Mail > > http://personal.mail./ > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the > following: > > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician > before using any natural > remedy. > > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be > your own physician and > to > > prescribe for your own health. > > We are not medical doctors although MDs are > welcome to post here as long > as > > they behave themselves. > > Any opinions put forth by the list members are > exactly that, and any > person > > following the advice of anyone posting here does > so at their own risk. > > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting > advice or products from > list members, you are agreeing to > > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold > the List Owner and > members free of any liability. > > > > Dr. Ian Shillington > > Doctor of Naturopathy > > Dr.IanShillington > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2002 Report Share Posted January 10, 2002 Just a reminder that if you use much ground flaxseed at one time to be sure and have plenty of fluid with it. Put a spoon of ground seed into a little water and see how it continues to swell. Looks to me like putting a spoon of it on cottage cheese would make cement. Ron _____________ Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2002 Report Share Posted January 10, 2002 the desert_rat wrote: > Just a reminder that if you use much ground flaxseed at one time to be > sure and have plenty of fluid with it. > Put a spoon of ground seed into a little water and see how it continues > to swell. > Looks to me like putting a spoon of it on cottage cheese would make > cement. Speaking of ground flaxseed, how long does it last if it is put in the freezer? Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2002 Report Share Posted January 10, 2002 - " Mindy Behymer " <mindy Friday, January 11, 2002 4:07 AM Re: flaxseed > Speaking of ground flaxseed, how long does it last if it is put in the > freezer? Hi Mindy, Probably a long time. I buy 1 kg per month and grind up 250 g per week and keep the ground seed meal in a sealable glass jar in the fridge door. The seed has heaps of natural Vit E to stop peroxidation of the Omega 3 LNA fatty acid. Other studies has shown almost no degradation after 6 months of warehouse storage. ======================== Good Health & Long Life, Greg Watson, http://optimalhealth.cia.com.au gowatson USDA database (food breakdown) http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/ PubMed (research papers) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi DWIDP (nutrient analysis) http://www.walford.com/dwdemo/dw2b63demo.exe Patch file for above http://www.walford.com/download/dwidp67u.exe KIM (omega analysis) http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 In a message dated 1/10/02 12:39:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, mindy writes: << Speaking of ground flaxseed, how long does it last if it is put in the freezer? >> How long does whole flaxseed last in the freezer? I have mine at least a year or two. Should I just throw it out and start over? Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2002 Report Share Posted January 12, 2002 - <gemno Friday, January 11, 2002 9:39 PM Re: flaxseed > How long does whole flaxseed last in the freezer? I have mine at least a > year or two. Should I just throw it out and start over? Hi Jean, How much did you buy? Shirley and I use about 15 g per day each or 30 g per day * 7 days is 210 g or about 1 kg per month, which is what I buy. I feel it should be ok but as it is very cheap, why not buy fresh each month? ======================== Good Health & Long Life, Greg Watson, http://optimalhealth.cia.com.au gowatson USDA database (food breakdown) http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/ PubMed (research papers) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi DWIDP (nutrient analysis) http://www.walford.com/dwdemo/dw2b63demo.exe Patch file for above http://www.walford.com/download/dwidp67u.exe KIM (omega analysis) http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2002 Report Share Posted January 12, 2002 In a message dated 1/11/02 6:17:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, gowatson writes: << feel it should be ok but as it is very cheap, why not buy fresh each month? ======================== >> Absolutely,...just an ingrained reaction to never throwing anything out. Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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