Guest guest Posted March 25, 2001 Report Share Posted March 25, 2001 Cute! Celeste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2001 Report Share Posted March 30, 2001 Asking for the group's help again .... yesterday a friend (Mary) told me that she'd had a really bad scare ('I was convinced I was going to die') over a flawed mammogram. Bear in mind that her mother died of cancer, and her sister has had breast cancer. Now Mary plans to have 'preventative' surger - ie remove both her breasts just in case. This horrifies me! Is her consultant right - will this stop any incipient cancer? Is there anything else Mary can do that will a) help prevent breast cancer or b) give her any clearer idea of whether she's likely to get it and c) reduce her all-consuming fear of it? She's 45, with young twins. Any suggestions, advice etc would be very much appreciated. Thank you - and warm wishes Arabella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2001 Report Share Posted March 30, 2001 My mother was a doctor, and she used to tell me that a mastectomy is not as effective a preventative as most would like to think. Very often, the cancer will come back in the scar tissue. -A.L. > Arabella McIntyre-Brown <abs > > Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:12:08 +0100 > > Re: breast cancer > > Asking for the group's help again .... > > yesterday a friend (Mary) told me that she'd had a really bad scare ('I was > convinced I was going to > die') over a flawed mammogram. Bear in mind that her mother died of cancer, > and her sister has had > breast cancer. Now Mary plans to have 'preventative' surger - ie remove both > her breasts just in > case. > > This horrifies me! Is her consultant right - will this stop any incipient > cancer? Is there anything > else Mary can do that will a) help prevent breast cancer or b) give her any > clearer idea of whether > she's likely to get it and c) reduce her all-consuming fear of it? > > She's 45, with young twins. > > Any suggestions, advice etc would be very much appreciated. > > Thank you - and warm wishes > > Arabella > > > > > **************************************** > Visit the community page: > For administrative problems -owner > To , - > > All messages, files and archives of this forum are copyright of the > group and the individual authors. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2001 Report Share Posted March 30, 2001 My question is, are we talking about prevention or cure? Pre-emptive mastectomies are fairly common. Seems to me like I'd want more than family history to go on before I had things cut off that were still healthy, but then I'm not in the situation. If I'm not mistaken, there are better genetic tests to determine an individual's likelyhood of developing the disease. >Anne-Louise Lasley <rosebud76 > > >Re: Re: breast cancer >Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:14:17 +0100 > >My mother was a doctor, and she used to tell me that a mastectomy is not as >effective a preventative as most would like to think. Very often, the >cancer will come back in the scar tissue. > >-A.L. > > > Arabella McIntyre-Brown <abs > > > > Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:12:08 +0100 > > > > Re: breast cancer > > > > Asking for the group's help again .... > > > > yesterday a friend (Mary) told me that she'd had a really bad scare ('I >was > > convinced I was going to > > die') over a flawed mammogram. Bear in mind that her mother died of >cancer, > > and her sister has had > > breast cancer. Now Mary plans to have 'preventative' surger - ie remove >both > > her breasts just in > > case. > > > > This horrifies me! Is her consultant right - will this stop any >incipient > > cancer? Is there anything > > else Mary can do that will a) help prevent breast cancer or b) give her >any > > clearer idea of whether > > she's likely to get it and c) reduce her all-consuming fear of it? > > > > She's 45, with young twins. > > > > Any suggestions, advice etc would be very much appreciated. > > > > Thank you - and warm wishes > > > > Arabella > > > > > > > > > > **************************************** > > Visit the community page: > > > For administrative problems -owner > > To , - > > > > All messages, files and archives of this forum are copyright of the > > > group and the individual authors. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2001 Report Share Posted April 1, 2001 << Any suggestions, advice etc would be very much appreciated. >> I'm no guru, but it's my understanding that * " The Universe " does not understand negatives. * Thus, I pray to avoid cancer = I pray to get cancer. * " The Universe " tends to bring us what we FOCUS on. The secret then is to focus on the POSITIVE. " I see myself in vibrant health! " If she wishes " an insurance package " , I'd suggest * Supplements that boost the immune system [i.e. BUILD health] * Optimize the health of her overall diet. That would include lessening the total amount of processed foods in favor of foods with less processing. Apples, oranges, cherries, blueberries, and dark green vegies would be examples. * Choose household consumable products that are DESIGNED for human safety ... i.e., without carcinogenic chemicals. Related to the last point ... " Women who work at home have a 54% higher death rate from cancer than women who have jobs away from the home. The 15 year study concluded that the increased death rate in the women was due to daily exposure to the hazardous chemicals found in ordinary household products. " Source: Poisoning our Children by Nancy Sokol Green " Of chemicals commonly found in home, 150 have been linked to allergies, birth defects, cancer, and psychological abnormalities. " Source: Consumer Product Safety Commission " After analyzing 2,983 chemicals used in personal care products, 884 were found to be toxic. Of these: 778 can cause acute toxicity 146 can cause tumors 218 can cause reproductive problems 314 can cause biological mutation 376 can cause skin and eye irritations " Source: National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health " Indoor air pollution is one of the nation's most important environmental health problems. " " Most homes have airborne concentrations of hazardous and toxic chemicals two to five times higher indoors than outdoors. " Source: Environmental Protection Agency Cutting off any body parts is NOT going to reduce the dangers cited above. Rich in Minnesota USA Sign in a Non-smoking area: " If we see you smoking we will assume you are on fire and take appropriate action. " <A HREF= " rputman?subject=send information " >a manufacturer that designs products for human safety</A> clicking the above link should start an " information please " e-mail to rputman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2001 Report Share Posted April 1, 2001 " Women who work at home have a 54% higher death rate from cancer than women who have jobs away from the home. Oh dear! I work in the home! Have for years! The 15 year study concluded that the > increased death rate in the women was due to daily > exposure to the hazardous chemicals found in ordinary > household products. " > > Oh. Whew. I'm safe. > > Have you SEEN this place? Then you know I don't get near household products > all that often. > > Anukki www.AnniesHands.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2001 Report Share Posted April 1, 2001 " This horrifies me! Is her consultant right - will this stop any incipient cancer? Is there anything else Mary can do that will a) help prevent breast cancer or b) give her any clearer idea of whether she's likely to get it and c) reduce her all-consuming fear of it? " Hi, I haven't posted to much to the list yet at this point (kind of a lurker : ) ), but wanted to throw something out really quick. Cancerwise, I'm not really knowledgable, but for c) ,she might benefit froma little eft. (I've used it for lots of specific fears and things and have had tremendous luck) It's something you could choose to spend a lot of money on , or could learn for free using the free downloads on the main website. Just thought I'd mention it. The site is www.emofree.com just in case. - Kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2001 Report Share Posted April 1, 2001 Did anybody see the Bill Moyer's special investigative report on the Chemical Industry the other night on PBS..? Very enlightening material...I have been in the Environmental Industry my entire career, and I can tell you that what they reported on is TRUE. THere are 80,000 Chemicals registered with the EPA for consumer use in products..THer are approximately 13,000 in common everyday use. Only 43 % have been tested for safety in human exposure, and virtually NONE have been tested pediatrically ( exposure limits for young humans.) THere is a new book out called Excito-Toxins that details the research on MSG and ASpartame ( Nutrasweet ) These Chemicals excite the synapses of the nerve and brain cells sometimes causing rapid firing of the synapses effectively short-circuiting the nerve cells resulting, in some cases of severe nerve ( including brain ) damage. Get email at your own domain with Mail. http://personal.mail./?.refer=text Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2001 Report Share Posted April 1, 2001 In response to: > The 15 year study concluded that the > increased death rate in the women was due to daily > exposure to the hazardous chemicals found in ordinary > household products. " > She wrote: Oh. Whew. I'm safe. Have you SEEN this place? Then you know I don't get near household products all that often. That is funny. It also reminds me of: " My idea of housework is to sweep the room with a glance. " That said, have you noticed that when you walk down the cleaning products aisle at a grocery store you can SMELL the cleaning products, even thought they're in sealed containers? This is called outgassing. So even if your preferred method of cleaning is to " sweep the room with a glance " ... Rich in Minnesota USA Sign on Maternity Room door: " Push, Push, Push. " <A HREF= " rputman?subject=send information " >a manufacturer that designs products for human safety</A> requests information from rputman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2001 Report Share Posted April 5, 2001 Thank you, thank you to everyone who contributed to this thread .... I have taken all your sage advice and comments and passed them to my friend. Of course it's her decision - her body, her health - but the more information she has about the routes open to her, the better the decision she can make. But what you have also given her is help to manage the fear .... which does so much damage. Bless you for your kindness and wisdom Arabella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 I've heard that breast cancer occurs primarily in the lymph nodes close to the armpits (on the side of the breast)...is that true? Also, is it supposed to hurt or be tender to the touch? Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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