Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 - " mrsjoguest " <joguest Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:12 PM Fwd: Re: speaking of carrots > Gettingwell, " mrsjoguest " <joguest@m...> wrote: > ---Hi Donna, > What is Herbamare. Is there anything in the vocabulary to describe > it? LOL > It has completely revolutionized my methods of cooking and is better > than any of the traditional spices that utilize msg. If I was not trying to wean myself away from salt, I'd sure give it a try. But as Herbamare contains salt, I guess I'll stick with Mrs.Dash seasonings. Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 - " mrsjoguest " <joguest Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:40 PM Fwd: Re: speaking of carrots > --- Alobar, > Oh, but haven't you heard? It's the way salt is processed that > makes it harmful. :-) The chlorine and all. Sea salt is perfectly > safe! Before passing judgment, do a search on it for more > information. Even those with HBP can tolerate it. Hmmm...I think it's > the Celtics that have the info. They market it. > Somebody help me here. <grin> > I saw it posted earlier.:-) > JoAnn > I am going on what Dr.Schwarzbein recommends. She says humans now eat far too much salt for their own good. I am sure a natural sea salt may have less additives (which are definitely bad) but salt itself is composed of one Sodium ion plus one Chloride ion. Our primitive diets had far less sodium & far more potassium. I am looking to slowly get back to that ration. I have also read that one of the dangers of city water is the excess of chloride one gets from it. So I am feeling the need to get rid of much of the salt in my diet. I am sure that sea salt is more healthy than commercial table salt, but it is still salt. Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 Alobar wrote: > So I am feeling the need to get rid of > much of the salt in my diet. I am sure that sea salt is more healthy than > commercial table salt, but it is still salt. > > Alobar I don't recall - do you use Lo-Salt or NuSalt? Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2002 Report Share Posted January 9, 2002 - " Mindy Behymer " <mindy Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:23 PM Re: Fwd: Re: speaking of carrots > Alobar wrote: > > > So I am feeling the need to get rid of > > much of the salt in my diet. I am sure that sea salt is more healthy than > > commercial table salt, but it is still salt. > > > > Alobar > > I don't recall - do you use Lo-Salt or NuSalt? > > Mindy > For a while I was using a salt blend with potassium chloride (I forget the brand), but have stopped that. I use salted butter on some foods, but am trying to wean myself onto salt free butter. Right now I use about a pound of unsalted for every pound of salted. I do get salt (as well as other stuff I do not need) from Lawry's Seasoning salt I use on meats. But I limit use to about 1/8 tsp a day & I am not yet a purist so I am ok with this. Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2002 Report Share Posted January 9, 2002 Hey, this is another lie - salt is good for you in moderation. Try Celtic salt which has all the minerals in it. You will get sick if you DON " T have salt. Asthmatics need it even more. It seems to break down mucus in their lungs or something like that, but don't stop having it, just have the right sort. A bit like the oils.... we need them, just the right ones. Tracy - " Alobar " <alobar Wednesday, 9 January 2002 12:20 Re: Fwd: Re: speaking of carrots > > - > " Mindy Behymer " <mindy > > Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:23 PM > Re: Fwd: Re: speaking of carrots > > > > Alobar wrote: > > > > > So I am feeling the need to get rid of > > > much of the salt in my diet. I am sure that sea salt is more healthy > than > > > commercial table salt, but it is still salt. > > > > > > Alobar > > > > I don't recall - do you use Lo-Salt or NuSalt? > > > > Mindy > > > For a while I was using a salt blend with potassium chloride (I > forget the brand), but have stopped that. I use salted butter on some > foods, but am trying to wean myself onto salt free butter. Right now I use > about a pound of unsalted for every pound of salted. I do get salt (as > well as other stuff I do not need) from Lawry's Seasoning salt I use on > meats. But I limit use to about 1/8 tsp a day & I am not yet a purist so I > am ok with this. > > Alobar > > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > and well being. > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > Subscription and list archives are at: > Gettingwell > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2002 Report Share Posted January 9, 2002 I'll need a lot more info before I change my diet. We get plenty of salt from veggies & meats. Whatever minerals I may be short on due to depleted soils I pick-up with a multiple vitamin & mineral tablet. Got any website URLs with info to the contrary? From what I have thusfar gleaned, we modern humans get far more Sodium than we need compared to Potassium. Alobar - " Nick Grant " <nwgrant Wednesday, January 09, 2002 1:33 AM Re: Fwd: Re: speaking of carrots > Hey, this is another lie - salt is good for you in moderation. Try Celtic > salt which has all the minerals in it. You will get sick if you DON " T have > salt. Asthmatics need it even more. It seems to break down mucus in their > lungs or something like that, but don't stop having it, just have the right > sort. A bit like the oils.... we need them, just the right ones. > > Tracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2002 Report Share Posted January 9, 2002 It will have to wait till tomorrow, but I will try to find something for you..... I am not talking loads of salt here - just a sprinkle. I don't usually salt my veggies, but some things just need a dash of salt! Tracy - " Alobar " <alobar Wednesday, 9 January 2002 20:50 Re: Fwd: Re: speaking of carrots > I'll need a lot more info before I change my diet. We get plenty of > salt from veggies & meats. Whatever minerals I may be short on due to > depleted soils I pick-up with a multiple vitamin & mineral tablet. Got any > website URLs with info to the contrary? From what I have thusfar gleaned, > we modern humans get far more Sodium than we need compared to Potassium. > > Alobar > > > - > " Nick Grant " <nwgrant > > Wednesday, January 09, 2002 1:33 AM > Re: Fwd: Re: speaking of carrots > > > > Hey, this is another lie - salt is good for you in moderation. Try Celtic > > salt which has all the minerals in it. You will get sick if you DON " T > have > > salt. Asthmatics need it even more. It seems to break down mucus in > their > > lungs or something like that, but don't stop having it, just have the > right > > sort. A bit like the oils.... we need them, just the right ones. > > > > Tracy > > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > and well being. > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > Subscription and list archives are at: > Gettingwell > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2002 Report Share Posted January 9, 2002 Alabar Try www.saltinstitute.org/27html www.saltinstitute.org/28html I can search for more tomorrow, but I am tired now and going to bed. have a nice day/night... Tracy - " Alobar " <alobar Wednesday, 9 January 2002 20:50 Re: Fwd: Re: speaking of carrots > I'll need a lot more info before I change my diet. We get plenty of > salt from veggies & meats. Whatever minerals I may be short on due to > depleted soils I pick-up with a multiple vitamin & mineral tablet. Got any > website URLs with info to the contrary? From what I have thusfar gleaned, > we modern humans get far more Sodium than we need compared to Potassium. > > Alobar > > > - > " Nick Grant " <nwgrant > > Wednesday, January 09, 2002 1:33 AM > Re: Fwd: Re: speaking of carrots > > > > Hey, this is another lie - salt is good for you in moderation. Try Celtic > > salt which has all the minerals in it. You will get sick if you DON " T > have > > salt. Asthmatics need it even more. It seems to break down mucus in > their > > lungs or something like that, but don't stop having it, just have the > right > > sort. A bit like the oils.... we need them, just the right ones. > > > > Tracy > > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > and well being. > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > Subscription and list archives are at: > Gettingwell > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2002 Report Share Posted January 9, 2002 This is very controversial. Yes, " sodium " is necessary for numerous body processes. The questions are: what kind of salt, and how much? It is also believed that some people are more or less " salt sensitive " than others. - " Nick Grant " <nwgrant Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:33 PM Re: Fwd: Re: speaking of carrots > Hey, this is another lie - salt is good for you in moderation. Try Celtic > salt which has all the minerals in it. You will get sick if you DON " T have > salt. Asthmatics need it even more. It seems to break down mucus in their > lungs or something like that, but don't stop having it, just have the right > sort. A bit like the oils.... we need them, just the right ones. > > Tracy > > - > " Alobar " <alobar > > Wednesday, 9 January 2002 12:20 > Re: Fwd: Re: speaking of carrots > > > > > > - > > " Mindy Behymer " <mindy > > > > Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:23 PM > > Re: Fwd: Re: speaking of carrots > > > > > > > Alobar wrote: > > > > > > > So I am feeling the need to get rid of > > > > much of the salt in my diet. I am sure that sea salt is more > healthy > > than > > > > commercial table salt, but it is still salt. > > > > > > > > Alobar > > > > > > I don't recall - do you use Lo-Salt or NuSalt? > > > > > > Mindy > > > > > For a while I was using a salt blend with potassium chloride (I > > forget the brand), but have stopped that. I use salted butter on some > > foods, but am trying to wean myself onto salt free butter. Right now I > use > > about a pound of unsalted for every pound of salted. I do get salt (as > > well as other stuff I do not need) from Lawry's Seasoning salt I use on > > meats. But I limit use to about 1/8 tsp a day & I am not yet a purist so > I > > am ok with this. > > > > Alobar > > > > > > > > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > > and well being. > > > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > > Subscription and list archives are at: > > Gettingwell > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2002 Report Share Posted January 9, 2002 - " Nick Grant " <nwgrant Wednesday, January 09, 2002 2:16 AM Re: Fwd: Re: speaking of carrots > Alabar > > Try > > www.saltinstitute.org/27html > > www.saltinstitute.org/28html > > I can search for more tomorrow, but I am tired now and going to bed. have a > nice day/night... > > Tracy Thanks for the info, but I remain dubious. The " salt institute " describes itself as: > The Salt Institute is the world's foremost source of authoritative > information about salt (sodium chloride) and its more than 14,000 > known uses. The Institute is a non-profit association of salt > producers founded in 1914. It provides public information and > advocates on behalf of its members. Membership eligibility is limited > to companies which both produce and market sodium chloride. Appended at the end is a short quote from a post of a few days ago which speaks of this very thing. I still contend us humans get far more sodium chloride than is good for us. We used to get quite a bit more Potassium than Sodium. In modern culture, the ratio is reversed. Giving up salt is not easy, but heading in that direction is something I feel to be important, no matter what the salt institute may say. Alobar - <dfnewman <CCBLhome Sunday, January 06, 2002 2:28 PM Americans will believe almost Anything > >From LewRockwell.com: > http://mercola.com/2001/aug/15/perception.htm > > The Doors Of Perception: Why Americans Will > Believe Almost Anything > Page 1 of 2 (Page 2, References) > > by Dr. Tim O'Shea (www.thedoctorwithin.com) > > Bernays learned early on that the most effective way to create > credibility for a product or an image was by " independent third- > party " endorsement. > For example, if General Motors were to come out and say that global > warming is a hoax thought up by some liberal tree-huggers, people > would suspect GM's motives, since GM's fortune is made by selling > automobiles. > If however some independent research institute with a very credible > sounding name like the Global Climate Coalition comes out with a > scientific report that says global warming is really a fiction, > people begin to get confused and to have doubts about the original > issue. > So that's exactly what Bernays did. With a policy inspired by genius, > he set up " more institutes and foundations than Rockefeller and > Carnegie combined. " (Stauber p 45) > Quietly financed by the industries whose products were being > evaluated, these " independent " research agencies would churn out > " scientific " studies and press materials that could create any image > their handlers wanted. Such front groups are given high-sounding > names like: > Temperature Research Foundation Manhattan Institute International > Food Information Council Center for Produce Quality Consumer Alert > Tobacco Institute Research Council The Advancement of Sound Science > Coalition Cato Institute Air Hygiene Foundation American Council on > Science and Health Industrial Health Federation Global Climate > Coalition International Food Information Council Alliance for Better > Foods > > Sound pretty legit don't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2002 Report Share Posted January 9, 2002 Hmmm. I have never heard of anyone being " sensitive " to an essential nutrient like salt . But there is always someone somewhere I guess. Tracy - " John Polifronio " <counterpnt Wednesday, 9 January 2002 21:45 Re: Fwd: Re: speaking of carrots > This is very controversial. Yes, " sodium " is necessary for numerous body > processes. The questions are: what kind of salt, and how much? It is also > believed that some people are more or less " salt sensitive " than others. > - > " Nick Grant " <nwgrant > > Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:33 PM > Re: Fwd: Re: speaking of carrots > > > > Hey, this is another lie - salt is good for you in moderation. Try Celtic > > salt which has all the minerals in it. You will get sick if you DON " T > have > > salt. Asthmatics need it even more. It seems to break down mucus in > their > > lungs or something like that, but don't stop having it, just have the > right > > sort. A bit like the oils.... we need them, just the right ones. > > > > Tracy > > > > - > > " Alobar " <alobar > > > > Wednesday, 9 January 2002 12:20 > > Re: Fwd: Re: speaking of carrots > > > > > > > > > > - > > > " Mindy Behymer " <mindy > > > > > > Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:23 PM > > > Re: Fwd: Re: speaking of carrots > > > > > > > > > > Alobar wrote: > > > > > > > > > So I am feeling the need to get rid of > > > > > much of the salt in my diet. I am sure that sea salt is more > > healthy > > > than > > > > > commercial table salt, but it is still salt. > > > > > > > > > > Alobar > > > > > > > > I don't recall - do you use Lo-Salt or NuSalt? > > > > > > > > Mindy > > > > > > > For a while I was using a salt blend with potassium chloride (I > > > forget the brand), but have stopped that. I use salted butter on some > > > foods, but am trying to wean myself onto salt free butter. Right now I > > use > > > about a pound of unsalted for every pound of salted. I do get salt > (as > > > well as other stuff I do not need) from Lawry's Seasoning salt I use on > > > meats. But I limit use to about 1/8 tsp a day & I am not yet a purist > so > > I > > > am ok with this. > > > > > > Alobar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > > > and well being. > > > > > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > > > Subscription and list archives are at: > > > Gettingwell > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2002 Report Share Posted January 10, 2002 Actually, the notion of " salt sensitiveness, " is extremely widespread in medicine; whatever its validity. I haven't read any research in this area. But I suffer from hypertension, and heard doctors frequently mention the words " salt sensitive. " It may also be that by " salt sensitive " is meant, that an imbalance of sodium to potassium, or other minerals has happened, and not simply that one has consumed too much salt. I also remember reading that table salt " irritates the heart muscle. " But, I have no way of knowing what to believe about any of this. I love to use salt, and wish I didn't have to worry about it. But I also have serious cardiovascular disease, and not just hypertension. - " Nick Grant " <nwgrant Wednesday, January 09, 2002 12:40 PM Re: Fwd: Re: speaking of carrots > Hmmm. I have never heard of anyone being " sensitive " to an essential > nutrient like salt . But there is always someone somewhere I guess. > > Tracy > > - > " John Polifronio " <counterpnt > > Wednesday, 9 January 2002 21:45 > Re: Fwd: Re: speaking of carrots > > > > This is very controversial. Yes, " sodium " is necessary for numerous body > > processes. The questions are: what kind of salt, and how much? It is > also > > believed that some people are more or less " salt sensitive " than others. > > - > > " Nick Grant " <nwgrant > > > > Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:33 PM > > Re: Fwd: Re: speaking of carrots > > > > > > > Hey, this is another lie - salt is good for you in moderation. Try > Celtic > > > salt which has all the minerals in it. You will get sick if you DON " T > > have > > > salt. Asthmatics need it even more. It seems to break down mucus in > > their > > > lungs or something like that, but don't stop having it, just have the > > right > > > sort. A bit like the oils.... we need them, just the right ones. > > > > > > Tracy > > > > > > - > > > " Alobar " <alobar > > > > > > Wednesday, 9 January 2002 12:20 > > > Re: Fwd: Re: speaking of carrots > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > " Mindy Behymer " <mindy > > > > > > > > Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:23 PM > > > > Re: Fwd: Re: speaking of carrots > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alobar wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > So I am feeling the need to get rid of > > > > > > much of the salt in my diet. I am sure that sea salt is more > > > healthy > > > > than > > > > > > commercial table salt, but it is still salt. > > > > > > > > > > > > Alobar > > > > > > > > > > I don't recall - do you use Lo-Salt or NuSalt? > > > > > > > > > > Mindy > > > > > > > > > For a while I was using a salt blend with potassium chloride > (I > > > > forget the brand), but have stopped that. I use salted butter on > some > > > > foods, but am trying to wean myself onto salt free butter. Right now > I > > > use > > > > about a pound of unsalted for every pound of salted. I do get salt > > (as > > > > well as other stuff I do not need) from Lawry's Seasoning salt I use > on > > > > meats. But I limit use to about 1/8 tsp a day & I am not yet a > purist > > so > > > I > > > > am ok with this. > > > > > > > > Alobar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > > > > and well being. > > > > > > > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > > > > Subscription and list archives are at: > > > > Gettingwell > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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