Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 In a message dated 1/7/02 4:22:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, Gettingwell writes: > We have been giving him 1/2 high quality kibble >> Debbie, No offense but I think that kibble and high quality are a contradiction in terms. I understand that some kibble is better than others but none come close to a raw diet. As long as a dog/cat is being exposed to dry kibble they will continue with ongoing health problems, allergies, etc. You now see alot of dogs/cats with diabetes, most of which comes from a dry, carb loaded diet, just like in humans. I would feed my dog/cat canned food before I would feed dry. At least you give your dog some raw meat and bones... alot better than nothing and more than most people will do. : ) I'm sure if you continue to change him over you'll see improved health. Supplements are important when feeding raw meat diet for balance of calcium, etc. So many people I talk to just can't bear the thought of feeding their animals raw meat. I'm pretty sure animals were born to eat raw, like a human. I have fed a raw diet to my cats for 4 years now. I add a powdered, combination supplement mixed with muscle and organ meats, add some salmon oil, water and voila... a balanced meal. They were weaned from mom's milk to raw meat. Their health is excellent, coats shiny and flat, and no vet bills. I keep getting them tested for worms but no sign yet. I also feed my cats live mice which I raise...Oh...LIVE MICE!! I hear the groaning and grimacing, but if you think about it, what do barn cats eat? Or any cat left to its own natural devices out of doors. There are many BARF lists out there to support the changing over to a raw diet. A friend of mine with an ill dog found a BARF list and she received alot of help. Changing his diet made a new dog out of him. Rah for raw!! Terri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 Terri, I agree about the kibble, and the only reason we are feeding it to him is that we are changing him over gradually. But the kibble we give him is made of organic, human grade meat with very little grains, so it really is better than supermarket kibble, even though it isn't raw. Tell me about the combination supplement you use. We had been giving our dog the Missing Link, but that is really just dried raw foods, which may not be what he needs anymore since he's getting raw food now. It is interesting about his allergies and scratching, b/c it has been worse again since he got lots of grainy treats as Christmas presents! Even the half and half diet has made a difference for him. Thanks, Debbie deb http://www.bodyhealthcenter.com Debbie, No offense but I think that kibble and high quality are a contradiction in terms. I understand that some kibble is better than others but none come close to a raw diet. As long as a dog/cat is being exposed to dry kibble they will continue with ongoing health problems, allergies, etc. You now see alot of dogs/cats with diabetes, most of which comes from a dry, carb loaded diet, just like in humans. I would feed my dog/cat canned food before I would feed dry. At least you give your dog some raw meat and bones... alot better than nothing and more than most people will do. : ) I'm sure if you continue to change him over you'll see improved health. Supplements are important when feeding raw meat diet for balance of calcium, etc. So many people I talk to just can't bear the thought of feeding their animals raw meat. I'm pretty sure animals were born to eat raw, like a human. I have fed a raw diet to my cats for 4 years now. I add a powdered, combination supplement mixed with muscle and organ meats, add some salmon oil, water and voila... a balanced meal. They were weaned from mom's milk to raw meat. Their health is excellent, coats shiny and flat, and no vet bills. I keep getting them tested for worms but no sign yet. I also feed my cats live mice which I raise...Oh...LIVE MICE!! I hear the groaning and grimacing, but if you think about it, what do barn cats eat? Or any cat left to its own natural devices out of doors. There are many BARF lists out there to support the changing over to a raw diet. A friend of mine with an ill dog found a BARF list and she received alot of help. Changing his diet made a new dog out of him. Rah for raw!! Terri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 - " Debra McDuffee " <deb Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:12 AM Re: Re: dry kibble > Terri, > I agree about the kibble, and the only reason we are feeding it to him is that we are changing him over gradually. But the kibble we give him is made of organic, human grade meat with very little grains, so it really is better than supermarket kibble, even though it isn't raw. You stirred my curiosity here. If the kibble is mainly meat, do you have to keep it refrigerated? Or is it full of preservatives? Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 Nope, it is naturally preserved with oils, vitamin C and E. Youv'e got ME wondering now, just how do they do that? As Terri said, probably b/c they've cooked all the good stuff out of it anyway! Makes me glad we are switching to raw! Debbie deb http://www.bodyhealthcenter.com - Alobar Gettingwell Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:47 PM Re: Re: dry kibble - " Debra McDuffee " <deb Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:12 AM Re: Re: dry kibble > Terri, > I agree about the kibble, and the only reason we are feeding it to him is that we are changing him over gradually. But the kibble we give him is made of organic, human grade meat with very little grains, so it really is better than supermarket kibble, even though it isn't raw. You stirred my curiosity here. If the kibble is mainly meat, do you have to keep it refrigerated? Or is it full of preservatives? Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 - " Debra McDuffee " <deb Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:57 AM Re: Re: dry kibble > Nope, it is naturally preserved with oils, vitamin C and E. Youv'e got ME wondering now, just how do they do that? As Terri said, probably b/c they've cooked all the good stuff out of it anyway! Makes me glad we are switching to raw! > Debbie hehe. I know I would not want to keep my cooked meat outside of the refrigerator. You may be right about it being cooked to the point where there is nothing left to spoil (the image of very crisp burnt bacon springs to mind!). Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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