Hollywood Diet

[Guest guest]

I was thinking of trying the Hollywood Diet Juice fast that is all the

craze these days. You can buy a bottle at any GMC nutritional center. It

costs about $25 a bottle and is good for two days worth. In the December

18th issue of Women's World, it gives a recipe for making it yourself much

cheaper. It says not to do it for more than 2 days a month or its expremely

unhealthy. It claims you will lose up to 10 pounds each time you do it as

long as you don't do it more than once a month. It would be great to lose

the 10 pounds but I was thinking it would be a good way to have a juice fast

and still get all the vitamins and supplements I need and clean myself out

and rid my body of toxins. This is the recipe:

1 cup low fat fortified vanilla soy milk

1 cup orange juice

1 cup cranberry juice

1 cup yogurt with active cultures, preferrably Stonyfield Farms brand

which has

the widest spectrum of " pro-biotic " bacteria

1/4 teaspoon wheatgerm oil or 2 tablespoons wheatgerm

1/4 teaspoon oil

Put it all in the blender and whip it up. Sip it thoughout the day--along

with plenty of water--for two days.

> Does this sound like a good idea or not?

Arizona

 

> Fasting in this manner for more than ONE day is very bad for you and will

> not

> do you good in the long term. If you need to fast, no more than every 6

> months, then you should find a really good fast, i.e. fresh fruit/veg juice

>

> and not just water - you will eat all the wrong things when you come out of

>

> the fast if you have only had water because your body will crave certain

> things to give it the vitamins/minerals that you have been denying

> yourself.

> Marianne

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/1/02 14:57:24 GMT Standard Time, ArtistDesigner

writes:

 

This looks like a good one but I would be very loath to fast on a monthly

basis - for the oil I would make it either olive oil or cocunut oil both

virgin of course. I would also substitute the yoghurt and replace it with

kefir if you can lay your hands on the grains so much the better but I

understand that there is a commercial kefir available in the USA. To lose

10lb in 2 days is very bad for you - the quicker you lose it, the quicker you

will put it back on plus another couple of lbs for your trouble. The only

true way to lose weight and keep it off is to change your 'way of life'. Cut

out all the 'fattening' foods and exercise 30 minutes daily - to start with

that exercise need only be 30 minutes of walking - build up to the more

strenuous work out when you have lost a bit of that weight and you need to

'tone' up those muscles. If you are seriously going to adjust your lifestyle

to ensure that you lose weight, I suggest you take cromium piccolinate to

ensure that you do not lose muscle density as well as fat - it does work, I

have done it - it took me a very long time to lose 28lbs but once I started

to take the cromium p, it seemed to get me to target very quickly.

 

If you would like to send me a list of 2 or 3 days menu, I will be happy to

see if there is anything you can change - please feel free to email me off

list (marianne2406).

 

LOL

Marianne

>

> 1 cup low fat fortified vanilla soy milk

> 1 cup orange juice

> 1 cup cranberry juice

> 1 cup yogurt with active cultures, preferrably Stonyfield Farms

> brand

> which has

> the widest spectrum of " pro-biotic " bacteria

> 1/4 teaspoon wheatgerm oil or 2 tablespoons wheatgerm

> 1/4 teaspoon oil

> Put it all in the blender and whip it up. Sip it thoughout the day--along

> with plenty of water--for two days.

> > Does this sound like a good idea or not?

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much Marrianne,

I would have emailed you off-list but I thought it might be beneficial

for someone else to see how a crazy person eats.(it's always nice to see

someone who eats worse than you) I am not nor have I ever been a normal

eating person. Because of this, it makes it so hard for me to come up with a

sound eating plan. I was born absolutely detesting the taste of any sort of

meat, fish chicken , nuts, eggs and milk. I have tried over the years to

acquire a taste for some of these foods but it has only gotten worse. Try

raising kids to not be picky eaters when their mother is the queen of picky.

But strangely enough, my kids eat far better than I do with a much larger

range of foods they like. I try to never say in front of them that I dislike

a certain food. I pretend to eat everything so they will like it and at

least give it a try...so far its worked.

Ok here goes a typical day of eating in my universe. I wake up and

usually eat a gratefruit or 2 and drink about 8 ounces of water or a Viactive

drink with all my supplements and vitamins. (I know the viactive is probably

not the best ingredients but it was real cheap at a close-out grocery store

so I had to get it. It was on sale and I am a women.) I fix the kids

breakfast of usually a four egg omelet of which they split in half. I make

it with just four eggs, a tiny bit of seasalt and butter. I usually only

give them water to drink and they love it....I have a huge ice cold water

despenser that they have access to all day long so they don't ask for juices

or (gasp) sodas.

I will sometimes have a slice of toast with butter and spread it with

roasted garlic that I roast with virgin olive oil. I love this but find I

cannot have bread more than one slice every 3 days or I feel it badly. I may

have whole wheat spagetti covered with Ragu spagetti sauce the kind flavored

with meat. I know I am a vegetarian but I love the way the meat flavors the

sauce (yes, I am an enigma) I also put lots of red wine in the sauce and lots

of red pepper flakes...also I either put in lots of honey if I have it...if

not I will (I hate to admit this) put in sugar. I drizzle the cooked

spagetti with virgin olive oil then ladel on the sauce. I love this and I

know it must be terrible for me.

Somedays I will eat a yogurt or I will actually eat crispy bacon.

(This is the only sort of meat I have ever been able to acquire a taste for

and I know there is absolutely no redeeming value to it what-so-ever but I

think it must be the saltiness of it that appeals to me.) If it isn't

crunchy and thin and crispy then I cannot tolertate eating it either. I can

totally eliminate this food with no problem. I can go years and never have

it so thats not a problem to rid myself of.

I have a problem getting enough protein. I don't know what to eat for

this. I hate nuts. I hate eggs. I do not eat dairy very much. No milk but

I do like cheese but I pay a big price if I eat it. Within an hour or so I

will have terrible stomach aches from cheddar or most other hard cheeses. I

do not believe cows milk is good for humans anyway. And goat cheese is just

horrible most of the time. I like legumes and any sort of beans and rice.

Sometimes I make brown rice with legumes and flavor it with cumin and a few

indian spices or whatever I can find.

Most days though, I will eat gratefruits (in the winter) or tomatoes

in the summer and a grilled cheese on whole wheat or spagetti with the ragu

for dinner. I drink almost exclusively water. I have gotten almost totally

away from using ice. Except in the summer when it hits 110 degrees I love

ice then. I like salads with just lettuce tomatoes, carrots and radishes. I

like it with any sort of dressing like oil and vinegar or blue cheese or

Italian. Croutons are my guilty pleasure with a salad. I make my own and

they are to die for. Probably literally.

If I am feeling particularly sinful I will eat a Reeses peanutbutter

cup....I have all but given this up but since I am revealing all my eating

habits for the past year, this is one of them. If we go out to eat, I

usually eat french fries or a baked potato with the works on it. I will eat

chili too but will pick out the meat.

Ok there you have it. I have no idea what you can make of this but

this is a typical day of my eating.

I do exercise about 1 to 2 hours a day. I go to the gym and I love

it. I do 20 minutes on the treadmill at aerobic level then about 45 minutes

on the weight machines then the rest of the time swimming. I am quite

overweight though. I weigh 209 and I am 5' 4 " . I'm 42 years old and have 3

boys ages 18 years, 5 years and 3 years. I know with the exercise and what I

eat it would seem that I shouldn't be overweight but I am. I would love any

help any of you can provide.

Arizona

>

> This looks like a good one but I would be very loath to fast on a monthly

> basis - for the oil I would make it either olive oil or cocunut oil both

> virgin of course. I would also substitute the yoghurt and replace it with

> kefir if you can lay your hands on the grains so much the better but I

> understand that there is a commercial kefir available in the USA. To lose

> 10lb in 2 days is very bad for you - the quicker you lose it, the quicker

> you

> will put it back on plus another couple of lbs for your trouble. The only

> true way to lose weight and keep it off is to change your 'way of life'.

> Cut

> out all the 'fattening' foods and exercise 30 minutes daily - to start with

>

> that exercise need only be 30 minutes of walking - build up to the more

> strenuous work out when you have lost a bit of that weight and you need to

> 'tone' up those muscles. If you are seriously going to adjust your

> lifestyle

> to ensure that you lose weight, I suggest you take cromium piccolinate to

> ensure that you do not lose muscle density as well as fat - it does work, I

>

> have done it - it took me a very long time to lose 28lbs but once I started

>

> to take the cromium p, it seemed to get me to target very quickly.

>

> If you would like to send me a list of 2 or 3 days menu, I will be happy to

>

> see if there is anything you can change - please feel free to email me off

> list (marianne2406).

>

> LOL

> Marianne

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Does kefir have soy in it?

I have seen kefir yogurt here in virginia

Donna

In a message dated 1/4/02 12:28:47 PM, marianne2406 writes:

 

<< ute the yoghurt and replace it with

kefir if you can lay your hands on the grains so much the better but I

understand that there is a commercial kefir available in the USA. To lose

10lb in 2 days is very bad for you - th >>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/1/02 17:07:44 GMT Standard Time, ArtistDesigner

writes:

 

I thought I had bad eating habits but you certainly beat me (not meant as a

criticism but as you said, it is nice to see there are people worse off than

yourself) - I am also extremely picky and grateful that both of my children

take after their father in that they will eat almost anything. I must admit

that I have got better over the last couple of years and will now at least

try things that I would once have looked at and said, no thanks I don't like

them, without even trying.

 

I will study your 'menu' and get back to you in a couple of days - you need

to mix certain foods to get complete proteins and I hope that I will be able

to find enough with your limited shopping list. I note you say you make the

sauce with loads of red wine!!! How much alcohol do you consume on a weekly

basis? if you use it merely for cooking that is fine - but alcohol is your

worst enemy if you are trying to lose weight - 1 small wine glass per day is

more than sufficient.

 

Marianne

 

> would have emailed you off-list but I thought it might be beneficial

> for someone else to see how a crazy person eats

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/1/02 17:21:34 GMT Standard Time, dfnewman

writes:

 

True kefir is made with either cows or goat's milk and 'tibetan mushroom' and

is really very good for you. I did start to make my own but I was doing it

all wrong and gave up on it but I will try again. The milk is left to

ferment over the 'mushroom' and turns into a yoghurt or as is known in the

group 'kefir' try this site for info - Dominic the main man, is absolutely

full of wonderful ideas and knowledge on this product.

http://www.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html

 

Marianne

 

> Does kefir have soy in it?

> I have seen kefir yogurt here in virginia

> Donna

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Does anyone know if the flavored kefir is artificial?

Also what is the protein? high/low etc

Thanks

Donna

In a message dated 1/4/02 1:33:26 PM, marianne2406 writes:

 

<< In a message dated 4/1/02 17:21:34 GMT Standard Time, dfnewman

writes:

 

True kefir is made with either cows or goat's milk and 'tibetan mushroom' and

is really very good for you. I did start to make my own but I was doing it

all wrong and gave up on it but I will try again. The milk is left to

ferment over the 'mushroom' and turns into a yoghurt or as is known in the

group 'kefir' try this site for info - Dominic the main man, is absolutely

full of wonderful ideas and knowledge on this product.

http://www.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html

>>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/1/02 18:54:53 GMT Standard Time, dfnewman

writes:

 

Donna - I don't know enough about this to answer your question but I would

assume that it is kefir d'Aqua (made with water and not milk) but if you join

the kefir group, Dominic can answer any questions you have.

Marianne

 

> Does anyone know if the flavored kefir is artificial?

> Also what is the protein? high/low etc

> Thanks

> Donna

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I only use it for cooking...I rarely ever have a drink of anything alcoholic.

Last time was about 2 years ago.

Arizona

 

> if you use it merely for cooking that is fine - but alcohol is your

> worst enemy if you are trying to lose weight - 1 small wine glass per day

> is

> more than sufficient.

>

> Marianne

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/1/02 20:59:49 GMT Standard Time, ArtistDesigner

writes:

 

Still limit its use to no more than once a week if you use a lot in your

sauce - it is very fattening.

Marianne

> I only use it for cooking...I rarely ever have a drink of anything

> alcoholic.

> Last time was about 2 years ago.

> Arizona

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Well it does just happen to be dry red wine. I would say I put about

2 cups of wine into a fairly large pot of sauce and I probably have spagetti

once or twice a week. I can't seem to tolerate to many wheat products if I

eat them two days in a row so I try to stager my wheat consumption to every

other day or so and only have one or two portions a day when I do eat it.

Like one slice of whole wheat bread and one cup of spagetti (not counting the

sauce)

Arizona

 

> Except for dry red wine, that is!! What kind of wine/alky do you use

> in

> your cooking, arizona?

>

> Mindy

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

marianne2406 wrote:

 

> In a message dated 4/1/02 20:59:49 GMT Standard Time, ArtistDesigner

> writes:

>

> Still limit its use to no more than once a week if you use a lot in your

> sauce - it is very fattening.

 

Except for dry red wine, that is!! What kind of wine/alky do you use in

your cooking, arizona?

 

Mindy

[Guest guest]

You may have less of a problem than you think, as regards the mixing of

proteins to obtain " complete " proteins. This notion, of having to mix

various foods to obtain complete proteins, has been thrown into question in

the past few years. It may be that we don't have to worry about this

problem. I hope someone writes to this list, concerning this issue.

-

<marianne2406

 

Friday, January 04, 2002 9:22 AM

Re: Hollywood Diet

 

 

> In a message dated 4/1/02 17:07:44 GMT Standard Time,

ArtistDesigner

> writes:

>

> I thought I had bad eating habits but you certainly beat me (not meant as

a

> criticism but as you said, it is nice to see there are people worse off

than

> yourself) - I am also extremely picky and grateful that both of my

children

> take after their father in that they will eat almost anything. I must

admit

> that I have got better over the last couple of years and will now at least

> try things that I would once have looked at and said, no thanks I don't

like

> them, without even trying.

>

> I will study your 'menu' and get back to you in a couple of days - you

need

> to mix certain foods to get complete proteins and I hope that I will be

able

> to find enough with your limited shopping list. I note you say you make

the

> sauce with loads of red wine!!! How much alcohol do you consume on a

weekly

> basis? if you use it merely for cooking that is fine - but alcohol is

your

> worst enemy if you are trying to lose weight - 1 small wine glass per day

is

> more than sufficient.

>

> Marianne

>

> > would have emailed you off-list but I thought it might be beneficial

> > for someone else to see how a crazy person eats

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have tried totally eliminating wheat altogether but it seems like I

am addicted and do much worse when I suddenly binge on it. So by cutting

back....I actually am eating it only once a week now and I feel ok. I also

don't go crazy and binge because I know in just one week, I can prepare my

favorite and have some of it. If I think I won't get it at all, then that

seems to be all I can think about. This is a huge change for me.

Less than 3 months ago, all I would eat was Pepsi, Reeses Peanut

butter cups, french fries and spagetti made with regular white flour pasta,

chips, dip and chocolate pudding cups (custard cremes for those in the UK).

Now I only have whole wheat noodles for my pasta, I do not ever drink any

sort of soda, rarely (like once every other month) do I ever have any candy

and french fries don't seem to hold the appeal they once did.

I am 42 and have spent a great amount of time in my life eating

horrible foods so for me to change so drastically in the last few months is a

huge change. I am feeling ready inside emotionally to finally change my life

forever. I feel good about it and don't feel like I am depriving myself like

I have in the past everytime I tried to do this. I appreciate all the help

you all give here because as you all know, changing our lifestyles is hard to

do if we aren't ready to commit to it.

You are right about my body rebeling if I eat wheat. I am listening

much closer to what my body tells me and if I would just pay attention, I

think I could tailor make a diet plan that would keep me healthy and I would

probably not have anymore cravings for unhealthy foods either.

Arizona

 

> If your body rebels if you eat wheat more than every 2 days, it

> seems to me that maybe your body is trying to tell you that you that wheat

> is not a good thing for you. Have your tried slowly cutting back on wheat

> so you go from every other day to twice a week to once a week and still

> further to once a month? cutting way back on wheat might be more to your

> advantage.

>

> Alobar

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/1/02 20:26:04 GMT Standard Time, ArtistDesigner

writes:

 

Arizona - wow - I really admire your guts - because that is what it takes to

make all of these changes - good for you and I know that you will succeed. I

agree with you, never totally give anything up, have it as a treat like you

do your wheat because if you feel deprived of something you will binge on it.

Marianne

 

I am 42 and have spent a great amount of time in my life eating >

> horrible foods so for me to change so drastically in the last few months is

> a

> huge change. I am feeling ready inside emotionally to finally change my

> life

> forever. I feel good about it and don't feel like I am depriving myself

> like

> I have in the past everytime I tried to do this. I appreciate all the help

>

> you all give here because as you all know, changing our lifestyles is hard

> to

> do if we aren't ready to commit to it.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

-

<ArtistDesigner

 

Friday, January 04, 2002 3:34 PM

Re: Hollywood Diet

 

 

> Well it does just happen to be dry red wine. I would say I put

about

> 2 cups of wine into a fairly large pot of sauce and I probably have

spagetti

> once or twice a week. I can't seem to tolerate to many wheat products if

I

> eat them two days in a row so I try to stager my wheat consumption to

every

> other day or so and only have one or two portions a day when I do eat it.

> Like one slice of whole wheat bread and one cup of spagetti (not counting

the

> sauce)

> Arizona

>

 

If your body rebels if you eat wheat more than every 2 days, it

seems to me that maybe your body is trying to tell you that you that wheat

is not a good thing for you. Have your tried slowly cutting back on wheat

so you go from every other day to twice a week to once a week and still

further to once a month? cutting way back on wheat might be more to your

advantage.

 

Alobar

[Guest guest]

-

<ArtistDesigner

 

Saturday, January 05, 2002 2:24 PM

Re: Hollywood Diet

 

 

> I have tried totally eliminating wheat altogether but it seems like

I

> am addicted and do much worse when I suddenly binge on it. So by cutting

> back....I actually am eating it only once a week now and I feel ok. I

also

> don't go crazy and binge because I know in just one week, I can prepare my

> favorite and have some of it.

 

I am appy to hear you are working on it. That is all any of us can

do. Bad eating habits are hel-on-wheels sometimes & take a lot of slow

nudging.

 

> I am 42 and have spent a great amount of time in my life eating

> horrible foods so for me to change so drastically in the last few months

is a

> huge change. I am feeling ready inside emotionally to finally change my

life

> forever. I feel good about it and don't feel like I am depriving myself

like

> I have in the past everytime I tried to do this. I appreciate all the

help

> you all give here because as you all know, changing our lifestyles is hard

to

> do if we aren't ready to commit to it.

 

Anen to that one! It took me getting a non-healing hole in my foot

to deal with my sugar habit! Had I dealt with my huge sugar ntake 30 years

ago, I would have had a much happier & more vital life decades ago.

 

 

> You are right about my body rebeling if I eat wheat. I am

listening

> much closer to what my body tells me and if I would just pay attention, I

> think I could tailor make a diet plan that would keep me healthy and I

would

> probably not have anymore cravings for unhealthy foods either.

> Arizona

>

I mentioned this on another thread, but I'll mention it again. I

got a lot out of reading " The Schwarzbein Principle " . The author helped me

understand why my body was going thru cravings & that helped me understand

how better to deal with those cravings. In one of the comforting part of

the book, Doc Shwarzbein talks of her own carbo imbalances & then reminds

the reader that bad habits took years in the making & it is not feasible to

try & put things back to normal in days or weeks or even months.

 

Best of luck with your struggle!

 

 

Alobar