Guest guest Posted January 3, 2002 Report Share Posted January 3, 2002 It's funny, I was thinking the other day that with all of the various diets going around, just about the *only* thing that ALL diets agree with is that vegetables are good for you. Err, make that raw vegetables (to include the raw foodist diet). (Then we must consider, " What is a vegetable? " Some folks don't consider the root veggies to be true veggies, such as carrots & potatoes.) But anyway...I have a question. Adelle Davis wrote in her book that it is hard for our bodies to get Vitamin A from carrots unless they are steamed and/or cooked. Is there any truth to that? What do y'all think? Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 People that eat a diet consisting largely of plant foods, and especially if dark green leafy vegetables are well represented, have little to be concerned about as far as vitamins and minerals are concerned. Vit. A is extremely plentiful in leafy vegetables. If you ate nothing but raw carrots (Davis didn't say anything about Vit. A from " juicing " carrots), you might not get enough A. But, in fact, a medium carrot, contains roughly your daily requirement (by govt. standards) for vit. A. So, if you like carrots, and are concerned about getting enough A from them, eat " 2 " medium carrots. - " Mindy Behymer " <mindy " getting well " Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:25 PM speaking of carrots > It's funny, I was thinking the other day that with all of the various > diets going around, just about the *only* thing that ALL diets agree > with is that vegetables are good for you. Err, make that raw vegetables > (to include the raw foodist diet). (Then we must consider, " What is a > vegetable? " Some folks don't consider the root veggies to be true > veggies, such as carrots & potatoes.) > > But anyway...I have a question. Adelle Davis wrote in her book that it > is hard for our bodies to get Vitamin A from carrots unless they are > steamed and/or cooked. Is there any truth to that? What do y'all > think? > > Mindy > > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > and well being. > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > Subscription and list archives are at: > Gettingwell > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 I read that steaming carrots a little bit enhances the value of the beta carotene.. I give my dogs carrots as treats and this is when I learned this from thier raw diet book . I also read that huge quantities of carrots are high in sugar and not a good choice for sugar problems An old recipe from my norwegian grand mother is steaming carrots and putting cardamom in the water ,Very tasty .. donna In a message dated 1/3/02 11:42:26 PM, mindy writes: << But anyway...I have a question. Adelle Davis wrote in her book that it is hard for our bodies to get Vitamin A from carrots unless they are steamed and/or cooked. Is there any truth to that? What do y'all think? Mi >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 In a message dated 4/1/02 13:40:34 GMT Standard Time, dfnewman writes: That sounds delicious and I may just have to give it a try - thanks Donna Marianne > An old recipe from my norwegian grand mother is steaming carrots and > putting > cardamom in the water ,Very tasty .. > donna > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 JOAnn Is it lycopene that is helpful for prostate problems? Donna In a message dated 1/4/02 1:04:36 PM, joguest writes: << ---Mindy, Cooking enhances the Lycopene content of carrots and tomatoes. I've heard this from many and varied sources! Regards, JoAnn >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 Why dont you come up with a good juice recipe for us to make using V-8 veggies??? Thanks donna In a message dated 1/4/02 2:04:21 PM, joguest writes: << ---Donna, Yes, this is what you hear in the media. I believe it,(one of the few things I'd take their word for:-)) although I would stipulate that it be one of the orga >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 What about the Boca burgers an dohter veggie burgers that are full Of Genetically engineered seed!! Donna In a message dated 1/4/02 2:22:33 PM, joguest writes: << ---Mindy, Just being facetious. <grin> Although I did just learn at the Greenpeace site, that V-8 is actually listed as a GMO in their shopping list. I guess what I really meant was that since the FDA will not enforce labeling for these things, these companies (monsanto,etc.) keep perverting my food supply. I have not found a good organic substitute to date. *Yikes* and I previously considered this to be a healthy juice! One site says that tomatoes are not involved in the Roundup trials, but Greenpeace still sticks to their story quite vehemently. So what does the average person really know about it. Not much! And... I've read tons of articles on the subject. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 This is great info thanks, Joann donna In a message dated 1/4/02 4:00:56 PM, joguest writes: << --- Excellent idea, Donna, V-8 contains: Carrots Spinach Celery Beets Parsley Watercress Tomatoes Lettuce It seems as if everything is readily available with the exception of perhaps the watercress. :-) One thing for sure, you are going to experience more health benefits from making your own! I would probably add a little Herbamare or sea salt to taste and some good freshly ground pepper also just to spice it up. Thanks for the excellent idea. JoAnn Guest >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 What is this, Herbamare? donna In a message dated 1/4/02 4:00:56 PM, joguest writes: << add a little Herbamare >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 In a message dated 4/1/02 20:01:13 GMT Standard Time, joguest writes: This sounds good and I am going to my organic suppliers tomorrow, will take this with me. What is Herbamare please (ingredients?) it is not something that I have heard of. Marianne > Excellent idea, Donna, > > V-8 contains: > Carrots > Spinach > Celery > Beets > Parsley > Watercress > Tomatoes > Lettuce > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 In a message dated 4/1/02 20:48:53 GMT Standard Time, joguest writes: Thanks JoAnn - I am going to check this one out and see what I can find. Marianne > Herbamare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 ---Mindy, Cooking enhances the Lycopene content of carrots and tomatoes. I've heard this from many and varied sources! Regards, JoAnn JoAnn Guest joguest Friendsforhealthnaturally http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html Mindy Behymer <mindy@l...> wrote: > It's funny, I was thinking the other day that with all of the various > diets going around, just about the *only* thing that ALL diets agree > with is that vegetables are good for you. Err, make that raw vegetables > (to include the raw foodist diet). (Then we must consider, " What is a > vegetable? " Some folks don't consider the root veggies to be true > veggies, such as carrots & potatoes.) > > But anyway...I have a question. Adelle Davis wrote in her book that it > is hard for our bodies to get Vitamin A from carrots unless they are > steamed and/or cooked. Is there any truth to that? What do y'all > think? > > Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 ---Donna, Yes, this is what you hear in the media. I believe it,(one of the few things I'd take their word for:-)) although I would stipulate that it be one of the organic sauces such as Paul Newmans(Newmans Own) or various other organic brands. I completely *detest* the fact that the FDA has taken away my V-8! I loved that drink! Now the Greenpeace cites it as a GMO! Ugh. JoAnn Guest joguest Friendsforhealthnaturally dfnewman@a... wrote: > JOAnn Is it lycopene that is helpful for prostate problems? > > Donna > In a message dated 1/4/02 1:04:36 PM, joguest@m... writes: > > << ---Mindy, > Cooking enhances the Lycopene content of carrots and tomatoes. > I've heard this from many and varied sources! > > Regards, JoAnn > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 mrsjoguest wrote: > ---Donna, > Yes, this is what you hear in the media. I believe it,(one of > the few things I'd take their word for:-)) although I would stipulate > that it be one of the organic sauces such as Paul Newmans(Newmans Own) > or various other organic brands. I completely *detest* the fact that > the FDA has taken away my V-8! I loved that drink! Now the Greenpeace > cites it as a GMO! Ugh. The FDA took away V-8 juice? When did that happen? Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 ---Mindy, Just being facetious. <grin> Although I did just learn at the Greenpeace site, that V-8 is actually listed as a GMO in their shopping list. I guess what I really meant was that since the FDA will not enforce labeling for these things, these companies (monsanto,etc.) keep perverting my food supply. I have not found a good organic substitute to date. *Yikes* and I previously considered this to be a healthy juice! One site says that tomatoes are not involved in the Roundup trials, but Greenpeace still sticks to their story quite vehemently. So what does the average person really know about it. Not much! And... I've read tons of articles on the subject. Mindy Behymer <mindy@l...> wrote: > mrsjoguest wrote: > > > ---Donna, > > Yes, this is what you hear in the media. I believe it,(one of > > the few things I'd take their word for:-)) although I would stipulate > > that it be one of the organic sauces such as Paul Newmans(Newmans Own) > > or various other organic brands. I completely *detest* the fact that > > the FDA has taken away my V-8! I loved that drink! Now the Greenpeace > > cites it as a GMO! Ugh. > > The FDA took away V-8 juice? When did that happen? > > Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 Sounds delightful Wish it was available here donna In a message dated 1/4/02 4:48:44 PM, joguest writes: << ---Hi Donna, What is Herbamare. Is there anything in the vocabulary to describe it? LO >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 --- Excellent idea, Donna, V-8 contains: Carrots Spinach Celery Beets Parsley Watercress Tomatoes Lettuce It seems as if everything is readily available with the exception of perhaps the watercress. :-) One thing for sure, you are going to experience more health benefits from making your own! I would probably add a little Herbamare or sea salt to taste and some good freshly ground pepper also just to spice it up. Thanks for the excellent idea. JoAnn Guest joguest Friendsforhealthnaturally http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html dfnewman@a... wrote: > Why dont you come up with a good juice recipe for us to make using V-8 > veggies??? > Thanks > donna > > > In a message dated 1/4/02 2:04:21 PM, joguest@m... writes: > > << ---Donna, > Yes, this is what you hear in the media. I believe it,(one of > the few things I'd take their word for:-)) although I would stipulate > that it be one of the orga >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 ---Hi Donna, What is Herbamare. Is there anything in the vocabulary to describe it? LOL It has completely revolutionized my methods of cooking and is better than any of the traditional spices that utilize msg. It is made by Bioforce, with branches in Switzerland and Canada. Should be available online, I would think... although I obtained mine at " The Big Carrot " a HFS in Toronto Canada while visiting there last summer. Canadians have it all! LOL Here is the list of ingredients: *Sea Salt *Celery *Leek *Watercress *Onion *Chives *Parsley *Lovage *Garlic *Basil *Marjoram *Rosemary *Thyme *Kelp Lovely blend for cooking veggies, tossing with salads or...whatever your little heart desires! And,oh, so healthy!!<grin> JoAnn Guest joguest Friendsforhealthnaturally http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html I'll give you the ingredientsdfnewman@a... wrote: > What is this, Herbamare? > donna > In a message dated 1/4/02 4:00:56 PM, joguest@m... writes: > > << add a little Herbamare >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2002 Report Share Posted January 5, 2002 --- Marianne, It should be available to you in the UK. The ingredients are in a separate post to Donna. Did you get them? If not I can repost. You should be able to get it as it is a product made in Switzerland. Very fascinating combination. I think it has had a positive impact on my health as I previously consumed way too much refined salt. It hasn't resulted in HBP yet, but it might have, had I not discovered Herbamare! :-) It seems to satisfy my taste for salty foods w/o the additional unhealthy additives (i.e. chlorine,etc) found in the refined salts. I never did crave refined sugars...salt has always been my weakness. JoAnn Guest joguest Friendsforhealthnaturally http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html marianne2406@a... wrote: > In a message dated 4/1/02 20:01:13 GMT Standard Time, joguest@m... > writes: > > This sounds good and I am going to my organic suppliers tomorrow, will take > this with me. What is Herbamare please (ingredients?) it is not something > that I have heard of. > > Marianne > > > Excellent idea, Donna, > > > > V-8 contains: > > Carrots > > Spinach > > Celery > > Beets > > Parsley > > Watercress > > Tomatoes > > Lettuce > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2002 Report Share Posted January 5, 2002 In a message dated 5/1/02 01:56:56 GMT Standard Time, joguest writes: Thanks JoAnn, I did get the recipe and I am going shopping today so will have a look in the best HFS in theSouth East of England to see if they have it. Marianne > It should be available to you in the UK. The ingredients are in a > separate post to Donna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 --- Marianne, I wish you luck in your search.;-) marianne2406@a... wrote: > In a message dated 5/1/02 01:56:56 GMT Standard Time, joguest@m... > writes: > > Thanks JoAnn, I did get the recipe and I am going shopping today so will have > a look in the best HFS in theSouth East of England to see if they have it. > Marianne > > > It should be available to you in the UK. The ingredients are in a > > separate post to Donna. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 Gettingwell, " mrsjoguest " <joguest@m...> wrote: ---Hi Donna, What is Herbamare. Is there anything in the vocabulary to describe it? LOL It has completely revolutionized my methods of cooking and is better than any of the traditional spices that utilize msg. It is made by Bioforce, with branches in Switzerland and Canada. Should be available online, I would think... although I obtained mine at " The Big Carrot " a HFS in Toronto Canada while visiting there last summer. Canadians have it all! LOL Here is the list of ingredients: *Sea Salt *Celery *Leek *Watercress *Onion *Chives *Parsley *Lovage *Garlic *Basil *Marjoram *Rosemary *Thyme *Kelp Lovely blend for cooking veggies, tossing with salads or...whatever your little heart desires! And,oh, so healthy!!<grin> JoAnn Guest joguest@m... Friendsforhealthnaturally http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html I'll give you the ingredientsdfnewman@a... wrote: > What is this, Herbamare? > donna > In a message dated 1/4/02 4:00:56 PM, joguest@m... writes: > > << add a little Herbamare >> --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 --- Alobar, Oh, but haven't you heard? It's the way salt is processed that makes it harmful. :-) The chlorine and all. Sea salt is perfectly safe! Before passing judgment, do a search on it for more information. Even those with HBP can tolerate it. Hmmm...I think it's the Celtics that have the info. They market it. Somebody help me here. <grin> I saw it posted earlier.:-) JoAnn " Alobar " <alobar@b...> wrote: > > - > " mrsjoguest " <joguest@m...> > <Gettingwell> > Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:12 PM > Fwd: Re: speaking of carrots > > > > Gettingwell, " mrsjoguest " <joguest@m...> wrote: > > ---Hi Donna, > > What is Herbamare. Is there anything in the vocabulary to describe > > it? LOL > > It has completely revolutionized my methods of cooking and is better > > than any of the traditional spices that utilize msg. > > If I was not trying to wean myself away from salt, I'd sure give it > a try. But as Herbamare contains salt, I guess I'll stick with Mrs.Dash > seasonings. > > Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2002 Report Share Posted January 9, 2002 ---Tracy, Do you have the Celtic link right offhand? Thanks, JoAnn JoAnn guest joguest " Nick Grant " <nwgrant@i...> wrote: > Hey, this is another lie - salt is good for you in moderation. Try Celtic > salt which has all the minerals in it. You will get sick if you DON " T have > salt. Asthmatics need it even more. It seems to break down mucus in their > lungs or something like that, but don't stop having it, just have the right > sort. A bit like the oils.... we need them, just the right ones. > > Tracy > > - > " Alobar " <alobar@b...> > <Gettingwell> > Wednesday, 9 January 2002 12:20 > Re: Fwd: Re: speaking of carrots > > > > > > - > > " Mindy Behymer " <mindy@l...> > > <Gettingwell> > > Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:23 PM > > Re: Fwd: Re: speaking of carrots > > > > > > > Alobar wrote: > > > > > > > So I am feeling the need to get rid of > > > > much of the salt in my diet. I am sure that sea salt is more > healthy > > than > > > > commercial table salt, but it is still salt. > > > > > > > > Alobar > > > > > > I don't recall - do you use Lo-Salt or NuSalt? > > > > > > Mindy > > > > > For a while I was using a salt blend with potassium chloride (I > > forget the brand), but have stopped that. I use salted butter on some > > foods, but am trying to wean myself onto salt free butter. Right now I > use > > about a pound of unsalted for every pound of salted. I do get salt (as > > well as other stuff I do not need) from Lawry's Seasoning salt I use on > > meats. But I limit use to about 1/8 tsp a day & I am not yet a purist so > I > > am ok with this. > > > > Alobar > > > > > > > > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > > and well being. > > > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > > Subscription and list archives are at: > > Gettingwell > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2002 Report Share Posted January 9, 2002 In a message dated 01/09/2002 7:47:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, counterpnt writes: > It may also be that by " salt sensitive " is meant, > that an imbalance of sodium to potassium, or other minerals has happened, > and not simply that one has consumed too much salt. This sentence turned a light bulb on in my head. I used to suffer from high blood pressure which was treated with medication. My Dr. was certain that I would be on medication for the rest of my life and gave me a salt free diet to follow and said I needed to lose LOTS of weight. Instead I went on a sugar free diet. I lost 10 pounds which was good, but no big deal since I had about 100 pounds to lose. My blood pressure normalized, my acid reflux disappeared, and I now wear the same shoe size summer and winter and never bloat. I just dug around a little on the Internet and found several references to sugar depleting the body's potassium. I knew giving up sugar worked -- thank you for finally giving me an explanation of why. I allow myself plenty of sea salt to taste but I would imagine that I probably consume less salt overall than *average.* I prepare most of my food myself from individual fresh ingredients, herbs and spices. I belong to a community supported agriculture (CSA) group and buy raw milk and cream, grass fed meats and free ranging chickens and eggs. I used to take tons of supplements but now I try to rely more on obtaining the most nutritious and chemical free foods and try to eat a very wide variety of vegetables both cooked and raw. I culture my own kefir and additionally use the whey to make all sorts of lacto fermented vegetables and beverages. I have extra kefir grains to share if any one is interested in giving kefiring a try in the U.S. Margaret in MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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