Guest guest Posted January 3, 2002 Report Share Posted January 3, 2002 Just wanted to let y'all know that I finally threw out the old jar of (nasty regular) peanut butter and unopened box of margarine that had been sitting in my refrigerator for months. I've been giving myself pep talks: " Yes, margarine is cheap at 3 boxes for a dollar, but it is a recipe for a heart attack and will be expensive in 10-20 years in the form of doctor's bills... " I know that as I do the switches my food bill will climb, which worries the frugal side of me, but I *also* know that I don't really have a choice... I'm considering making a small frontyard vegetable garden this spring so that I can do some canning, but am unsure of whether that will piss off the neighbors & if it's legal (too many trees in the backyard). Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2002 Report Share Posted January 3, 2002 In a message dated 3/1/02 15:44:15 GMT Standard Time, mindy writes: Hi Mindy - good for you throwing out all those nasty margarines and peanut butters. I am also trying to purchase only organic foods but have a husband who is very cost conscious - how much is that compared to regular he keeps asking. However, he did admit that a couple of organic things do taste so much better than regular so I am half way there. Just remember when you are in 'frugal' thought, you are extending your lifespan by spending just a few dollars (for me pounds) more. Best incentive yet I think. As for the frontyard gardening - can you offer them a can or two to keep them happy - ask and offer first and you are bound to meet with a much better response - good luck and I hope it is legal for you. Marianne > I know that as I do the switches my food bill will climb, which worries > the frugal side of me, but I *also* know that I don't really have a > choice... > > I'm considering making a small frontyard vegetable garden this spring so > that I can do some canning, but am unsure of whether that will piss off > the neighbors & if it's legal (too many trees in the backyard). > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2002 Report Share Posted January 3, 2002 In a message dated 3/1/02 18:33:50 GMT Standard Time, alobar writes: I find exactly the same and my husband who loves bananas and has to have them every single day, commented on how much nicer the organic ones tasted - a convert who hates spending money!!! I agree it is worth every penny for a taste of heaven without all of those nasty bugs implanted into it. Marianne > I found my craving for meat was > satisfied with small portions of organic meat than regular meat. I still > spend quite a bit more on food, but not as much as initially -- and I find > it is worth every penny. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2002 Report Share Posted January 3, 2002 - <marianne2406 Thursday, January 03, 2002 9:51 AM Re: it's all gone!! > In a message dated 3/1/02 15:44:15 GMT Standard Time, mindy > writes: > > > Hi Mindy - good for you throwing out all those nasty margarines and peanut > butters. I am also trying to purchase only organic foods but have a husband > who is very cost conscious - how much is that compared to regular he keeps > asking. However, he did admit that a couple of organic things do taste so > much better than regular so I am half way there. Just remember when you are > in 'frugal' thought, you are extending your lifespan by spending just a few > dollars (for me pounds) more. Best incentive yet I think. Years ago, I greatly resisted the switch to organic food. Part was based on frugality & part was based on the wretched looking fruits & meat being sold as organic in the only store which carried organic produce. Years past. I finally moved to a new town (New Orleans) with a really nice market (Whole Foods) which carried organics. I switched to organic fruits first, as that was the cheapest way to start. Once in a while I bought regular fruit if WholeFoods did not have what I wanted & I noticed the difference big time! Back then I was a real big meat eater. Switching from regular meat to organic meat meant an additional $100 a week in grocery costs. But I did it. Guess what? I found my craving for meat was satisfied with small portions of organic meat than regular meat. I still spend quite a bit more on food, but not as much as initially -- and I find it is worth every penny. Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 It's interesting, that when people complain about the modest difference in the prices of organic foods compared with non-organic, they never consider the opportunity these price differentials afford us. If organic foods are somewhat more expensive, we can deal with the problem in a way that actually benefits us, without spending a penny more than before. Eat less! If an organic sourced bread, say, costs you 20% more, eat 20% less bread, so that you end up paying the same amount for your bread, " and " lose a little weight in the bargain. Better quality, better health, better flavor, weight loss, and no increased cost: sounds like a bargain to me. - <marianne2406 Thursday, January 03, 2002 7:51 AM Re: it's all gone!! > In a message dated 3/1/02 15:44:15 GMT Standard Time, mindy > writes: > > > Hi Mindy - good for you throwing out all those nasty margarines and peanut > butters. I am also trying to purchase only organic foods but have a husband > who is very cost conscious - how much is that compared to regular he keeps > asking. However, he did admit that a couple of organic things do taste so > much better than regular so I am half way there. Just remember when you are > in 'frugal' thought, you are extending your lifespan by spending just a few > dollars (for me pounds) more. Best incentive yet I think. > > As for the frontyard gardening - can you offer them a can or two to keep them > happy - ask and offer first and you are bound to meet with a much better > response - good luck and I hope it is legal for you. > Marianne > > > I know that as I do the switches my food bill will climb, which worries > > the frugal side of me, but I *also* know that I don't really have a > > choice... > > > > I'm considering making a small frontyard vegetable garden this spring so > > that I can do some canning, but am unsure of whether that will piss off > > the neighbors & if it's legal (too many trees in the backyard). > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 In a message dated 4/1/02 00:31:34 GMT Standard Time, counterpnt writes: That would be a wonderful logic if you can advise what we could do to fill ourselves up - I do not eat for the sake of it but to fuel the body - I also do not eat more than I need therefore, what would I need to do to stop those hunger pangs when I am eating 20% less of everything - I would also then become malnourished and there would be a high risk of some becoming anorexic - I don't really think this is the way to go. Marianne > Eat less! If an > organic sourced bread, say, costs you 20% more, eat 20% less bread, so that > you end up paying the same amount for your bread, " and " lose a little > weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 Well Marianne I'm sorry the idea doesn't work for you; but it would save my life, if I had the discipline and good sense to apply it. I currently eat about 3000 calories a day. I'm 6 ft tall and weigh an obese 240lbs. If I eliminated 1000 calories from my daily intake (33%) to 2000 cal's, I'd have all kinds of hunger pangs, but would have no problem obtaining the nourishment I need; I daresay, even if the calorie number were reduced further, to about 1800 calories, I'd have no problem obtaining all the needed nutritional values from food, even for a guy my size. My obesity, especially at age 63, with arteriosclerosis and angina, could kill me at any moment. If I wasn't an atheist/agnostic, I'd pray to god, to give me the guts to eat 2000 calories a day, and put up with hunger pangs, till they subsided, as they always do, if you give them a chance to subside. The two times I fasted on water-only, the first time for 3 days, the second time, for 2 days, I was surprised both times, to find out, late in the first day, and strongly the second day, how weak my appetite " really " was, and how stressed my poor digestive tract was, how traumatized it was, by having to consume the mountains of food we insist on forcing on ourselves. I've digressed a lot from our point, regarding the cost of organic food. But I probably should stay out of this issue, because I and my wife, buy a lot of food, and I'd save all kinds of money if I had some food restraint. I always end up preaching for eating less but better quality food, and for losing weight, even though I can't seem to make it happen in my own life. .. - <marianne2406 Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:39 PM Re: it's all gone!! > In a message dated 4/1/02 00:31:34 GMT Standard Time, > counterpnt writes: > > That would be a wonderful logic if you can advise what we could do to fill > ourselves up - I do not eat for the sake of it but to fuel the body - I also > do not eat more than I need therefore, what would I need to do to stop those > hunger pangs when I am eating 20% less of everything - I would also then > become malnourished and there would be a high risk of some becoming anorexic > - I don't really think this is the way to go. > Marianne > > > > Eat less! If an > > organic sourced bread, say, costs you 20% more, eat 20% less bread, so that > > you end up paying the same amount for your bread, " and " lose a little > > weight > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 In a message dated 4/1/02 08:29:21 GMT Standard Time, counterpnt writes: It is not how much you eat but WHAT you eat - you must change your eating habits (it is not a diet it is a way of life) so that you eat more filling less fattening foods - lots of fresh fruit and veg - a carrot is very few calories but quite filling - bread is not good for you anyway so drop it other than the odd slice. I am sure that if you send me a typical days intake, I will be able to amend it for you so that you are eating healthier more filling foods. Marianne > I'm sorry the idea doesn't work for you; but it would save my life, if I had > the discipline and good sense to apply it. > I currently eat about 3000 calories a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 In a message dated 4/1/02 08:29:21 GMT Standard Time, counterpnt writes: Sorry but must add this bit. Fasting in this manner for more than ONE day is very bad for you and will not do you good in the long term. If you need to fast, no more than every 6 months, then you should find a really good fast, i.e. fresh fruit/veg juice and not just water - you will eat all the wrong things when you come out of the fast if you have only had water because your body will crave certain things to give it the vitamins/minerals that you have been denying yourself. Marianne > The two times I fasted on water-only, the first time for 3 days, the second > time, for 2 days, I was surprised both times, to find out, late in the > first > day, and strongly the second day, how weak my appetite " really " was, and > how > stressed my poor digestive tract was, how traumatized it was, by having to > consume the mountains of food we insist on forcing on ourselves. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 - " John Polifronio " <counterpnt Friday, January 04, 2002 2:21 AM Re: it's all gone!! > Well Marianne > I'm sorry the idea doesn't work for you; but it would save my life, if I had > the discipline and good sense to apply it. > I currently eat about 3000 calories a day. I'm 6 ft tall and weigh an obese > 240lbs. I would highly recommend you read " The Schwarzbein Principle " . Written in layman's terms, the books shows how us humans use carbohydrates, drugs, caffeine, sleep dep, etc. to jerk around our serotonin levels. The book shows how one can get rid of the cravings by getting rid of the things which jerk around serotonin. I went from a 7-10 pound a week sugar habit & a loaf of bread a week down to almost nothing in only a few months with almost no cravings. Once in a while a small binge, but the binges make me feel ill so it is easy to cut the binge short & not keep going with the foods I know are bad for me. I do not yet follow Dr.Schwarzbein's diet completely as of yet, but by reading & understanding her logic, it helped me a lot to figure out ways I was really getting in my own way. http://www.schwarzbeinprinciple.com/ Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 In a message dated 4/1/02 09:47:48 GMT Standard Time, alobar writes: You are talking to a chocoholic who was told 'one more chocolate could kill you' so I know all about ridding oneself of cravings. I just don't think that leaving myself with hunger pangs and not being able to get to sleep because of them, is not the way to go. To change what I eat so that I lose the weight naturally is far more responsible and I know that if I do that (I also am in excess of my ideal weight but have a thyroid problem that I am trying very hard to 'cure' naturally) I will lose the weight permanently and not put it back on because the minute I get to target I start to eat things that have been 'off limits'. This is just my personal view and the way it works for me, thank goodness we are all different, so have to find what works for each of us and it could be totally different than mine. Marianne > I went from a 7-10 pound a week sugar habit & > a loaf of bread a week down to almost nothing in only a few months with > almost no cravings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 In a message dated 4/1/02 13:42:44 GMT Standard Time, mindy writes: Everyone should stop eating after 7:30 to 8 pm - the body does not digest anything eaten later than this during the night so instead of turning into energy it turns into fat - I think this is how it was explained to me anyway. Calories mean nothing because I could eat 2,000 cals a day and cut down to 1,500 and still not lose weight because I am eating the wrong foods. Marianne > What's funny is that yesterday on " Oprah, " Oprah said she stopped eating at > 7:30 pm and > lost 10 pounds. I don't know why it works - I suspect it gives our bodies > a > break more than the calorie thing.... *is deeply suspicious of the calorie > paradigm* > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 Thanks for the tip; I'll read it. John - " Alobar " <alobar Friday, January 04, 2002 1:46 AM Re: it's all gone!! > > - > " John Polifronio " <counterpnt > > Friday, January 04, 2002 2:21 AM > Re: it's all gone!! > > > > Well Marianne > > I'm sorry the idea doesn't work for you; but it would save my life, if I > had > > the discipline and good sense to apply it. > > I currently eat about 3000 calories a day. I'm 6 ft tall and weigh an > obese > > 240lbs. > > I would highly recommend you read " The Schwarzbein Principle " . > Written in layman's terms, the books shows how us humans use carbohydrates, > drugs, caffeine, sleep dep, etc. to jerk around our serotonin levels. The > book shows how one can get rid of the cravings by getting rid of the things > which jerk around serotonin. I went from a 7-10 pound a week sugar habit & > a loaf of bread a week down to almost nothing in only a few months with > almost no cravings. Once in a while a small binge, but the binges make me > feel ill so it is easy to cut the binge short & not keep going with the > foods I know are bad for me. I do not yet follow Dr.Schwarzbein's diet > completely as of yet, but by reading & understanding her logic, it helped me > a lot to figure out ways I was really getting in my own way. > http://www.schwarzbeinprinciple.com/ > > Alobar > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > and well being. > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > Subscription and list archives are at: > Gettingwell > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 In a message dated 4/1/02 17:31:53 GMT Standard Time, joguest writes: Thanks JoAnn - I would be very interested in that - I am losing weight (well when I forego my chocolate I do) steadily since coming back from my holiday and being determined that I would do it. I watch more what I eat than I did before and I am rarely hungry other than on work days when I do not have lunch until 3 pm - I must address this as it is my downfall - the others days I am very good - just the 3 working days let me down. Marianne > LOL I have an article on the high-fiber > content of beans I can send on to you if you're interested. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 John Polifronio wrote: > The two times I fasted on water-only, the first time for 3 days, the second > time, for 2 days, I was surprised both times, to find out, late in the first > day, and strongly the second day, how weak my appetite " really " was, and how > stressed my poor digestive tract was, how traumatized it was, by having to > consume the mountains of food we insist on forcing on ourselves. *nod* I can relate...it is very difficult to differentiate between true hunger and snacking hunger (or habit hunger). I usually have true hunger only once a day, and the rest of the time I eat out of habit. I used to compulsively overeat (a tray of cookies every night, anyone?), and like Alobar, I discovered that upping the protein and lowering the sugar proved very beneficial. One thing you could try is doing a 12 hour fast every day. That is, if you normally eat breakfast at 7 am every morning, then stop eating after 7 pm at night. (Make sure you eat dinner beforehand, that is...) I came up with this idea on my own and broke through a weight loss plateau by doing so. What's funny is that yesterday on " Oprah, " Oprah said she stopped eating at 7:30 pm and lost 10 pounds. I don't know why it works - I suspect it gives our bodies a break more than the calorie thing.... *is deeply suspicious of the calorie paradigm* Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 In a message dated 4/1/02 19:01:41 GMT Standard Time, alobar writes: Alobar - I think that is fantastic that you have managed to do that all on your own - please be very careful about losing a lot of weight quickly though. If you get chromium picolinate it will help to stop the loss of muscle mass. Sometimes you can weigh more even whilst losing fat because muscle is heavier than fat, but you must still exercise. It is not how others perceive you that matters, it is how you feel about yourself. I am not majorly overweight and most people tell me that I do not look as if I need to lose weight (so many kind thoughtful people out there) but I am heavier than I have ever been in my life and I do not like it. I do not want to be the 7stone weakling that I was 8 years ago but I do want to lose a couple of stone (28lb or so - sorry that is the English in me talking in stone and not kilos 14lb=1 stone). I wish you every success in getting to your goal weight and staying there. Marianne > I gotta work out more as I am starting that " old > guy " look (loss of muscle mass), Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 --- Marianne, I have a suggestion. I have researching the nutritional and fiber content of beans. I'm referring to the beans our grandmothers cooked up into a dish we commonly call " baked beans " here in America. Since eating these high-fiber beans I have been able to lose weight and still feel like I am satisfying my calorie requirements. I have been able to reduce my BMI very effectively in the last few months. Beans satisfy hunger in a way few other foods can do. Any sort of beans are desirable, except soybeans if getting them raw, we must be sure to get organic soybeans. As I just get the regular ones the pinto, northern, or red bean varieties are fine. And over time they do not produce the flatulence that you might expect as your body adjusts accordingly. LOL I have an article on the high-fiber content of beans I can send on to you if you're interested. Regards, JoAnn JoAnn Guest joguest Friendsforhealthnaturally http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html > In a message dated 4/1/02 00:31:34 GMT Standard Time, > Marianne writes: > > That would be a wonderful logic if you can advise what we could do to fill > ourselves up - I do not eat for the sake of it but to fuel the body - I also > do not eat more than I need therefore, what would I need to do to stop those > hunger pangs when I am eating 20% less of everything - I would also then > become malnourished and there would be a high risk of some becoming anorexic > - I don't really think this is the way to go. > Marianne > > > Eat less! If an > > organic sourced bread, say, costs you 20% more, eat 20% less bread, so that > > you end up paying the same amount for your bread, " and " lose a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 - <marianne2406 Friday, January 04, 2002 10:37 AM Re: it's all gone!! > In a message dated 4/1/02 09:47:48 GMT Standard Time, alobar > writes: > > You are talking to a chocoholic who was told 'one more chocolate could kill > you' so I know all about ridding oneself of cravings. I just don't think > that leaving myself with hunger pangs and not being able to get to sleep > because of them, is not the way to go. To change what I eat so that I lose > the weight naturally is far more responsible and I know that if I do that (I > also am in excess of my ideal weight but have a thyroid problem that I am > trying very hard to 'cure' naturally) I will lose the weight permanently and > not put it back on because the minute I get to target I start to eat things > that have been 'off limits'. This is just my personal view and the way it > works for me, thank goodness we are all different, so have to find what works > for each of us and it could be totally different than mine. > Marianne > > > I went from a 7-10 pound a week sugar habit & > > a loaf of bread a week down to almost nothing in only a few months with > > almost no cravings. I fully agree. I do not go to bed hungery & have no intense cravings. Cutting out the foods which trigger the cravings (the stuff which jerks around my serotonin levels -- like salt, sugar, chocolate, caffeine, msg, corn sweeteners, etc.) made it far easier than just moderating them. My weight loss has been modest & gradual. I went from 210 lbs to 185 in the past 5 months or so. I am no 56 & this is first time I have been under 200 since I was about 14. I gotta work out more as I am starting that " old guy " look (loss of muscle mass), but other than that, things are ok as far as diet & weight go. As I said, no cravings (or almost none, anyway). Once a month or so I still buy a small loaf of fresh hot french bread & pig-out with bread & butter. But I only eat 1/3 f a loaf, wheras I used to eat the whole loaf. And I have no interest in the rest of the loaf later. I leave it out for the homeless. I have a can of chocolate frosting on my shelf. Same can has been there for 5 months now. I used to go thru a can every week. I have no iron will or self discipline. The getting rid of the foods which stimulate my cravings have made eating well so much easier. I have to watch myself after I eat out in a restaurant because the sugar & salt they use on the food stimulates some cravings. But if I keep control for a few hours, the cravings go away. Alobar > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 - <marianne2406 Friday, January 04, 2002 10:43 AM Re: it's all gone!! > In a message dated 4/1/02 13:42:44 GMT Standard Time, mindy > writes: > > Everyone should stop eating after 7:30 to 8 pm - the body does not digest > anything eaten later than this during the night so instead of turning into > energy it turns into fat - I think this is how it was explained to me anyway. > Calories mean nothing because I could eat 2,000 cals a day and cut down to > 1,500 and still not lose weight because I am eating the wrong foods. > Marianne > > > What's funny is that yesterday on " Oprah, " Oprah said she stopped eating at > > 7:30 pm and > > lost 10 pounds. I don't know why it works - I suspect it gives our bodies > > a > > break more than the calorie thing.... *is deeply suspicious of the calorie > > paradigm* > > My bedtime is much later than most, so I have to sift the times accordingly. My last snack meal is around midnight (I go to bed around 3AM) & it consists of an apple with a glass of milk. The balance of fruit with the protein & fat in the milk is quite satisfying, but not real filling. Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2002 Report Share Posted January 5, 2002 I'll try anything to lose weight. - " Mindy Behymer " <mindy Friday, January 04, 2002 5:42 AM Re: it's all gone!! > John Polifronio wrote: > > > The two times I fasted on water-only, the first time for 3 days, the second > > time, for 2 days, I was surprised both times, to find out, late in the first > > day, and strongly the second day, how weak my appetite " really " was, and how > > stressed my poor digestive tract was, how traumatized it was, by having to > > consume the mountains of food we insist on forcing on ourselves. > > *nod* I can relate...it is very difficult to differentiate between true hunger > and snacking hunger (or habit hunger). I usually have true hunger only once a > day, and the rest of the time I eat out of habit. > > I used to compulsively overeat (a tray of cookies every night, anyone?), and > like Alobar, I discovered that upping the protein and lowering the sugar proved > very beneficial. > > One thing you could try is doing a 12 hour fast every day. That is, if you > normally eat breakfast at 7 am every morning, then stop eating after 7 pm at > night. (Make sure you eat dinner beforehand, that is...) I came up with this > idea on my own and broke through a weight loss plateau by doing so. What's > funny is that yesterday on " Oprah, " Oprah said she stopped eating at 7:30 pm and > lost 10 pounds. I don't know why it works - I suspect it gives our bodies a > break more than the calorie thing.... *is deeply suspicious of the calorie > paradigm* > > Mindy > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > and well being. > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > Subscription and list archives are at: > Gettingwell > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2002 Report Share Posted January 5, 2002 In a message dated 5/1/02 20:30:33 GMT Standard Time, alobar writes: Just one of the things that I learned from being a dieter............ also ginger as I sent in an earlier message - eat as much ginger as you can in your cooking - good for your heart and for your metabolism. Marianne > > > Thanks for your concern. I use a rule of thumb of not wanting to > lose more than one pound a week. Some of my weight loss was triggered by > a > side effect of the diabetes meds (glyburide) I was on for a few moths. > Food tasted wretched & I felt painfully bloated). Glyburide also made me > feel exhausted all the time. Now that I am off the glyburide, I want to > eat more. My protein intake is up. In the part 6 weeks I have lost only > a pound or two. I just started getting back into exercise so that should > help add some weighty muscle mass. Thanks for the tip about Chromium > Piclonate. I did not know that helped to preserve muscle mass. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2002 Report Share Posted January 5, 2002 - <marianne2406 Friday, January 04, 2002 2:53 PM Re: it's all gone!! > In a message dated 4/1/02 19:01:41 GMT Standard Time, alobar > writes: > > Alobar - I think that is fantastic that you have managed to do that all on > your own - please be very careful about losing a lot of weight quickly > though. If you get chromium picolinate it will help to stop the loss of > muscle mass. Sometimes you can weigh more even whilst losing fat because > muscle is heavier than fat, but you must still exercise. It is not how > others perceive you that matters, it is how you feel about yourself. I am > not majorly overweight and most people tell me that I do not look as if I > need to lose weight (so many kind thoughtful people out there) but I am > heavier than I have ever been in my life and I do not like it. I do not want > to be the 7stone weakling that I was 8 years ago but I do want to lose a > couple of stone (28lb or so - sorry that is the English in me talking in > stone and not kilos 14lb=1 stone). I wish you every success in getting to > your goal weight and staying there. > Marianne Thanks for your concern. I use a rule of thumb of not wanting to lose more than one pound a week. Some of my weight loss was triggered by a side effect of the diabetes meds (glyburide) I was on for a few moths. Food tasted wretched & I felt painfully bloated). Glyburide also made me feel exhausted all the time. Now that I am off the glyburide, I want to eat more. My protein intake is up. In the part 6 weeks I have lost only a pound or two. I just started getting back into exercise so that should help add some weighty muscle mass. Thanks for the tip about Chromium Piclonate. I did not know that helped to preserve muscle mass. Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 Mindy Congrats! I havebeen slowly making the transfer to pure butter from marg also Erin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 ---Mindy, Have you tried the Sandra Cabot diet? " John Polifronio " <counterpnt@e...> wrote: > I'll try anything to lose weight. > - > " Mindy Behymer " <mindy@l...> > <Gettingwell> > Friday, January 04, 2002 5:42 AM > Re: it's all gone!! > > > > John Polifronio wrote: > > > > > The two times I fasted on water-only, the first time for 3 days, the > second > > > time, for 2 days, I was surprised both times, to find out, late in the > first > > > day, and strongly the second day, how weak my appetite " really " was, and > how > > > stressed my poor digestive tract was, how traumatized it was, by having > to > > > consume the mountains of food we insist on forcing on ourselves. > > > > *nod* I can relate...it is very difficult to differentiate between true > hunger > > and snacking hunger (or habit hunger). I usually have true hunger only > once a > > day, and the rest of the time I eat out of habit. > > > > I used to compulsively overeat (a tray of cookies every night, anyone?), > and > > like Alobar, I discovered that upping the protein and lowering the sugar > proved > > very beneficial. > > > > One thing you could try is doing a 12 hour fast every day. That is, if > you > > normally eat breakfast at 7 am every morning, then stop eating after 7 pm > at > > night. (Make sure you eat dinner beforehand, that is...) I came up with > this > > idea on my own and broke through a weight loss plateau by doing so. > What's > > funny is that yesterday on " Oprah, " Oprah said she stopped eating at 7:30 > pm and > > lost 10 pounds. I don't know why it works - I suspect it gives our bodies > a > > break more than the calorie thing.... *is deeply suspicious of the > calorie > > paradigm* > > > > Mindy > > > > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > > and well being. > > > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > > Subscription and list archives are at: > > Gettingwell > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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