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In a message dated 12/27/01 2:30:20 PM, Gettingwell writes:

 

<< Experimental Vaccinations Begin Today >>

 

This is a tragic event. I personally wrote to William Smith, President of the

NY Metro Postal Union. I know others have called. I commended him for his

leadership and genuine concern for his fellow union members. I do hope no one

takes the fatal shot. I have been in this issue for over two years and for

the life of me, cannot comprehend how an adulterated vaccine could be

offered to the US Postal Service, have them sign consent forms and absolve

the government any liability. I just don't get it.

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I think there is a lot of confusion about diet 'out there'. There is

confusion between therapeutic regimens, i.e. diets designed to treat

specific diseases or conditions, and maintenance regimens, to maintain

good health. In my understanding of Chinese medicine, diet can be

recommended to people according to constitution or disease pattern,

like herbal medicine. So any diet can be therapeutic in a specific

circumstance, for a specific period of time. The extremes of this

spectrum go from the raw food diet, which is cold, damp, and clears

heat from the viscera, so I would consider this to be a more

therapeutic regimen (although some individuals thrive on it long-term)

to the Atkins diet, highly cooked fats and proteins which alters the qi

transformation by eliminating grains and fibrous foods.

 

The 'central' diet of Chinese medicine is the " qing dan " or clear/bland

diet, one based on whole grains, beans, vegetables, fruits nuts and

small amounts of animal foods. It is similar to, but much broader

than, macrobiotics which is often followed too strictly because of

misconceptions in treatment of specific diseases.

 

I have problems with all of the diets when taken too far. Raw foods

and macrobiotics often degenerate into fanaticism, which is too bad,

because both have their merits. The Atkins diet I have great concerns

about, basically the lack of fiber and fresh vegetables and fruits, and

the excess of animal protein. But with flexibility, the Atkins diet

can be a relatively healthy regimen. Often times it seems to me that

people are just reacting to the amount of refined carbohydrates and

sugars in the modern diet, and improve when they are eliminated. I

don't like to see whole grains, beans and vegetables 'demonized' by

this reaction.

 

In conclusion, we should be very flexible in choosing diets for

ourselves and our patients. The goal is a balanced qi transformation,

and a diet based on clean, wholesome natural foods.

 

 

On Tuesday, September 2, 2003, at 03:50 PM,

Chinese Medicine wrote:

 

> For what it's worth, a bit of personal experience: my partner and I

> have

> been doing the Atkins diet for 10 months, carefully following

> instructions (induction diet for 2 wks, weight loss for 5 mo,

> maintenence since then, good vit/min supplement, moderate exercise).

> Can't speak for my pulses (I'm the practitioner), but hers have

> increased in volume and improved in quality rather astonishingly. Blood

> deficiency is much less.

>

>

> My theory is that it's less dairy that causes damp/phlegm and more

> refined flours and sugars. Will watch for Spleen stress, but I've

> certainly noticed increased stamina and clearer thinking. And

> appropriate almost painless weight loss. Haven't had my cholesterol

> level checked, but that's more for political reasons than medical.

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> The Atkins diet I have great concerns

> about, basically the lack of fiber and fresh vegetables and fruits, and

> the excess of animal protein.

>

> The Atkins diet does not lack fiber, etc. Even in the induction phase

> which is comparatively more meat to fiber there is fiber. Certainly if

> this phase is continued over long periods it could be detrimental. As

> in anything, people need to study and follow the guidelines while

> using this diet. I respectfully suggest that we balance the media hype

> with what Atkins had to say. Also, if you're interested, do a search

> on 'low carb diets' - research has been done. There's lots of good

> information at http://atkins.com/

>

>

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>I don't like to see whole grains, beans and vegetables 'demonized' by

>this reaction.

 

>In conclusion, we should be very flexible in choosing diets for

>ourselves and our patients. The goal is a balanced qi transformation,

>and a diet based on clean, wholesome natural foods.

 

 

I agree. I don't agree with the position that somehow claims we are 'hunter

gatherers', and that therefore any whole, natural carbohydrate etc is alien

to our physiology and 'asking for trouble'. No, IMO if we cannot cope with a

healthy diet it's pathology.

 

Refined carbs and sugars are another story I agree.

 

Jackie

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The Atkins diet I have great concerns

about, basically the lack of fiber and fresh vegetables and fruits, and

the excess of animal protein. But with flexibility, the Atkins diet

can be a relatively healthy regimen.

>>>>>The Atkins diet does allow for plenty of veg, some fruits are not good but

some are

alon

 

 

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Vanessa,

 

> You have good questions, Acupuncture Organizations could answer these

> questions ,but they are interested in where the money will fall or

> politics in medicine in their favor.

 

It may be that most CM organizations are so underfunded that they need

commercial activities for support. Regardless, our aim must be to both

promote and develop our field.

 

> The same goes for the question: When it will be clear enought that drugs

> are killing 150 thousand or more a year for the medical community and

> others around the health organizations to put a stop or more scrutiny in

> this drug presciptions ??

 

I think it does have an effect. Fear of iatrogenics is part of a generalized

fear of science and technology that stimuates interest in traditional and

natural medicines. Paul Unschuld's article, " Nature versus Chemistry and

Technology, " offers an excellent discussion:

 

http://www.paradigm-pubs.com/paradigm/refs/unschuld/chmena.pdf

 

> This drug related death has been going on for many years and no one is

> addressing, what make you think the qustions above will be answered ?

 

Absolute numbers like 150,000 seem large, and certainly stimulate concerns

about science and technology, but there has never been, and there is not

now, any politically notable support for setting side-effect standards to 0%

or efficacy standards to 100%. In fact, the pressure on the U.S. FDA, and

similar agencies world-wide, is for " fast track approvals, " particularly for

human crises like AIDS. Although people certainly know about side-effect

crises like Fen-Fen, or efficacy failures like Premarin, and these must

increase people's fear and doubt, it seems to stimulate ire agianst " big

phama " more than a loss of faith in drug therapy. It is as if the population

blames the drug cos for not producing successful drugs more than they

question drug therapy itself.

 

The challenge to us is to help people move away from blind faith in magic

bullets.

 

> I am not against your thinking, but I can tell is to liberal and we need

> more organization for this professional review.

[ . . . ]

> Question : When it will be done?? I think when we stop looking for where

> the Money will fall and think more about care.

 

Liberal! Old codgers like me are suppose to be getting more conservative!

 

> Why they don't follow this amazing 90 percentage of results , natural

> therapy, great success for addiction cases??

[ . . .]

> I would say politics , not about care. If it was about care, hospitals

> would be using this protocol long time ago.

 

Well, yes, it is about money and power. Medicine is about money and

power. But, if we want to change things, we must deal with money and

power and we must be honest that we seek money and power. We want

money to support ourselves and the care we provide; we want power to

counter the adversaries Richard has described and to draw people to what

we have to offer.

 

Bob

 

 

 

 

bob Paradigm Publications

www.paradigm-pubs.com P.O. Box 1037

Robert L. Felt 202 Bendix Drive

505 758 7758 Taos, New Mexico 87571

 

 

 

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The Atkins diet I have great concerns

about, basically the lack of fiber and fresh vegetables and fruits, and

the excess of animal protein. But with flexibility, the Atkins diet

can be a relatively healthy regimen.

>>>>>The Atkins diet does allow for plenty of veg, some fruits are not good but

some are

alon

 

Hi Alon,

I've grown to have faith in your assessments. I'll have to look further into

the current evolution of Atkins diet.

 

Emmanuel Segmen

 

 

 

 

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>>>>>The Atkins diet does allow for plenty of veg, some fruits are not good but

some are

alon

 

Alon,

 

I should also note that I've been calculating my approximate basal metabolic

rate for the past (about) 18 years in order to write daily menus for myself.

Ever the obsessive physiologist/nutritionist. The change in bmr around 48 or 49

years of age was significant enough to cause me to reduce my caloric intake by

about 8 to 10%. My caloric output from aerobic exercise has been undiminished

and fairly steady from late 30s to mid 50s. The reduction in caloric intake

from 49 years of age has had quite a positive effect it seems on my energies.

So many of my clinical nutrition professors used to note that eating was overall

the greatest stress in most people's lives.

 

Emmanuel Segmen

 

 

 

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>So many of my clinical nutrition professors used to note that eating was

overall >the greatest stress in most people's lives.

 

I couldn't agree more there. Tell me Emmanuel, what do you consider most

beneficial to eat for breakfast and why?

 

Jackie

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Emmanuel

I forgot, how do you calculate basal rate

Alon

 

Hi Alon,

 

As I clean up my email, I realize I had not answered this question. Assuming

you have no expensive equipment in your office and don't which to go through

elaborate laboratory procedures, you need to assess the patient as they sit or

stand before you. It takes a bit of experimentation, but here is my general

procedure. If it's not clear ask specific questions.

 

For adults 18 years or older to about 50, I used factors which multiply the

weight. For men, I multiply their weight times 9 for sedentary types and times

10 for active types. Thus a 150 lb. male has a caloric output of 1500 assuming

he has an active life or exercise regime. It's only 1350 calories per day for

sedentary types. The factors for females are 8 and 9 as they lack testosterone

which plays a role in lean body mass and caloric output. For very aerobic

athletes you may need to modify this factor. I am such an athlete yet I went

from a 10 to a 9 after the age of 50. Aging happens. Once you assess the bmr

caloric output you balance that with food caloric input and exercise caloric

output. The final figure is zero for no gain or loss of body fat. If you want

to lose weight, then you create a greater output value over the input value. As

stated this take experimentation. You may need to use a 9.5 or an 8.5 if you

see the person is not responding according to your numbers. I started gaining

weight after 50, so I adjusted my bmr factor downward and lost the weight.

 

All of this is a lot of work until you get used to calculating food calories and

exercise calories. I've gotten myself to log this every day for the past 18

years or so, in order to make use of myself as a physiology lab. It may seem

obsessive to some, but it's useful as a daily meditation. I remind my students

that they have a physiology lab where ever they go ... their own bodies.

Practitioners have a CM clinic where ever you go since you no doubt self treat

with acupuncture and herbs.

 

Emmanuel Segmen

 

 

 

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