Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 In a message dated 12/27/01 2:30:20 PM, Gettingwell writes: << Experimental Vaccinations Begin Today >> This is a tragic event. I personally wrote to William Smith, President of the NY Metro Postal Union. I know others have called. I commended him for his leadership and genuine concern for his fellow union members. I do hope no one takes the fatal shot. I have been in this issue for over two years and for the life of me, cannot comprehend how an adulterated vaccine could be offered to the US Postal Service, have them sign consent forms and absolve the government any liability. I just don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 I think there is a lot of confusion about diet 'out there'. There is confusion between therapeutic regimens, i.e. diets designed to treat specific diseases or conditions, and maintenance regimens, to maintain good health. In my understanding of Chinese medicine, diet can be recommended to people according to constitution or disease pattern, like herbal medicine. So any diet can be therapeutic in a specific circumstance, for a specific period of time. The extremes of this spectrum go from the raw food diet, which is cold, damp, and clears heat from the viscera, so I would consider this to be a more therapeutic regimen (although some individuals thrive on it long-term) to the Atkins diet, highly cooked fats and proteins which alters the qi transformation by eliminating grains and fibrous foods. The 'central' diet of Chinese medicine is the " qing dan " or clear/bland diet, one based on whole grains, beans, vegetables, fruits nuts and small amounts of animal foods. It is similar to, but much broader than, macrobiotics which is often followed too strictly because of misconceptions in treatment of specific diseases. I have problems with all of the diets when taken too far. Raw foods and macrobiotics often degenerate into fanaticism, which is too bad, because both have their merits. The Atkins diet I have great concerns about, basically the lack of fiber and fresh vegetables and fruits, and the excess of animal protein. But with flexibility, the Atkins diet can be a relatively healthy regimen. Often times it seems to me that people are just reacting to the amount of refined carbohydrates and sugars in the modern diet, and improve when they are eliminated. I don't like to see whole grains, beans and vegetables 'demonized' by this reaction. In conclusion, we should be very flexible in choosing diets for ourselves and our patients. The goal is a balanced qi transformation, and a diet based on clean, wholesome natural foods. On Tuesday, September 2, 2003, at 03:50 PM, Chinese Medicine wrote: > For what it's worth, a bit of personal experience: my partner and I > have > been doing the Atkins diet for 10 months, carefully following > instructions (induction diet for 2 wks, weight loss for 5 mo, > maintenence since then, good vit/min supplement, moderate exercise). > Can't speak for my pulses (I'm the practitioner), but hers have > increased in volume and improved in quality rather astonishingly. Blood > deficiency is much less. > > > My theory is that it's less dairy that causes damp/phlegm and more > refined flours and sugars. Will watch for Spleen stress, but I've > certainly noticed increased stamina and clearer thinking. And > appropriate almost painless weight loss. Haven't had my cholesterol > level checked, but that's more for political reasons than medical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 > The Atkins diet I have great concerns > about, basically the lack of fiber and fresh vegetables and fruits, and > the excess of animal protein. > > The Atkins diet does not lack fiber, etc. Even in the induction phase > which is comparatively more meat to fiber there is fiber. Certainly if > this phase is continued over long periods it could be detrimental. As > in anything, people need to study and follow the guidelines while > using this diet. I respectfully suggest that we balance the media hype > with what Atkins had to say. Also, if you're interested, do a search > on 'low carb diets' - research has been done. There's lots of good > information at http://atkins.com/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 >I don't like to see whole grains, beans and vegetables 'demonized' by >this reaction. >In conclusion, we should be very flexible in choosing diets for >ourselves and our patients. The goal is a balanced qi transformation, >and a diet based on clean, wholesome natural foods. I agree. I don't agree with the position that somehow claims we are 'hunter gatherers', and that therefore any whole, natural carbohydrate etc is alien to our physiology and 'asking for trouble'. No, IMO if we cannot cope with a healthy diet it's pathology. Refined carbs and sugars are another story I agree. Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 The Atkins diet I have great concerns about, basically the lack of fiber and fresh vegetables and fruits, and the excess of animal protein. But with flexibility, the Atkins diet can be a relatively healthy regimen. >>>>>The Atkins diet does allow for plenty of veg, some fruits are not good but some are alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 Vanessa, > You have good questions, Acupuncture Organizations could answer these > questions ,but they are interested in where the money will fall or > politics in medicine in their favor. It may be that most CM organizations are so underfunded that they need commercial activities for support. Regardless, our aim must be to both promote and develop our field. > The same goes for the question: When it will be clear enought that drugs > are killing 150 thousand or more a year for the medical community and > others around the health organizations to put a stop or more scrutiny in > this drug presciptions ?? I think it does have an effect. Fear of iatrogenics is part of a generalized fear of science and technology that stimuates interest in traditional and natural medicines. Paul Unschuld's article, " Nature versus Chemistry and Technology, " offers an excellent discussion: http://www.paradigm-pubs.com/paradigm/refs/unschuld/chmena.pdf > This drug related death has been going on for many years and no one is > addressing, what make you think the qustions above will be answered ? Absolute numbers like 150,000 seem large, and certainly stimulate concerns about science and technology, but there has never been, and there is not now, any politically notable support for setting side-effect standards to 0% or efficacy standards to 100%. In fact, the pressure on the U.S. FDA, and similar agencies world-wide, is for " fast track approvals, " particularly for human crises like AIDS. Although people certainly know about side-effect crises like Fen-Fen, or efficacy failures like Premarin, and these must increase people's fear and doubt, it seems to stimulate ire agianst " big phama " more than a loss of faith in drug therapy. It is as if the population blames the drug cos for not producing successful drugs more than they question drug therapy itself. The challenge to us is to help people move away from blind faith in magic bullets. > I am not against your thinking, but I can tell is to liberal and we need > more organization for this professional review. [ . . . ] > Question : When it will be done?? I think when we stop looking for where > the Money will fall and think more about care. Liberal! Old codgers like me are suppose to be getting more conservative! > Why they don't follow this amazing 90 percentage of results , natural > therapy, great success for addiction cases?? [ . . .] > I would say politics , not about care. If it was about care, hospitals > would be using this protocol long time ago. Well, yes, it is about money and power. Medicine is about money and power. But, if we want to change things, we must deal with money and power and we must be honest that we seek money and power. We want money to support ourselves and the care we provide; we want power to counter the adversaries Richard has described and to draw people to what we have to offer. Bob bob Paradigm Publications www.paradigm-pubs.com P.O. Box 1037 Robert L. Felt 202 Bendix Drive 505 758 7758 Taos, New Mexico 87571 --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 The Atkins diet I have great concerns about, basically the lack of fiber and fresh vegetables and fruits, and the excess of animal protein. But with flexibility, the Atkins diet can be a relatively healthy regimen. >>>>>The Atkins diet does allow for plenty of veg, some fruits are not good but some are alon Hi Alon, I've grown to have faith in your assessments. I'll have to look further into the current evolution of Atkins diet. Emmanuel Segmen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 >>>>>The Atkins diet does allow for plenty of veg, some fruits are not good but some are alon Alon, I should also note that I've been calculating my approximate basal metabolic rate for the past (about) 18 years in order to write daily menus for myself. Ever the obsessive physiologist/nutritionist. The change in bmr around 48 or 49 years of age was significant enough to cause me to reduce my caloric intake by about 8 to 10%. My caloric output from aerobic exercise has been undiminished and fairly steady from late 30s to mid 50s. The reduction in caloric intake from 49 years of age has had quite a positive effect it seems on my energies. So many of my clinical nutrition professors used to note that eating was overall the greatest stress in most people's lives. Emmanuel Segmen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 >So many of my clinical nutrition professors used to note that eating was overall >the greatest stress in most people's lives. I couldn't agree more there. Tell me Emmanuel, what do you consider most beneficial to eat for breakfast and why? Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 >>>>>The Atkins >>>>It basically goes between 20-80 or so g. of carbs. At 40-80 g one can have plenty of low index veg and some fruits such as berries Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 Emmanuel I forgot, how do you calculate basal rate Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 Emmanuel I forgot, how do you calculate basal rate Alon Hi Alon, As I clean up my email, I realize I had not answered this question. Assuming you have no expensive equipment in your office and don't which to go through elaborate laboratory procedures, you need to assess the patient as they sit or stand before you. It takes a bit of experimentation, but here is my general procedure. If it's not clear ask specific questions. For adults 18 years or older to about 50, I used factors which multiply the weight. For men, I multiply their weight times 9 for sedentary types and times 10 for active types. Thus a 150 lb. male has a caloric output of 1500 assuming he has an active life or exercise regime. It's only 1350 calories per day for sedentary types. The factors for females are 8 and 9 as they lack testosterone which plays a role in lean body mass and caloric output. For very aerobic athletes you may need to modify this factor. I am such an athlete yet I went from a 10 to a 9 after the age of 50. Aging happens. Once you assess the bmr caloric output you balance that with food caloric input and exercise caloric output. The final figure is zero for no gain or loss of body fat. If you want to lose weight, then you create a greater output value over the input value. As stated this take experimentation. You may need to use a 9.5 or an 8.5 if you see the person is not responding according to your numbers. I started gaining weight after 50, so I adjusted my bmr factor downward and lost the weight. All of this is a lot of work until you get used to calculating food calories and exercise calories. I've gotten myself to log this every day for the past 18 years or so, in order to make use of myself as a physiology lab. It may seem obsessive to some, but it's useful as a daily meditation. I remind my students that they have a physiology lab where ever they go ... their own bodies. Practitioners have a CM clinic where ever you go since you no doubt self treat with acupuncture and herbs. Emmanuel Segmen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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