Guest guest Posted December 26, 2001 Report Share Posted December 26, 2001 There is a difference in " who is to blame " and " who is responsible " . What is the issue here? Our complete medical system is based on " the Germ System " . Simply stated, " most disease is caused by germs invading our bodies " . Of course there is another theory that is the other side of the coin. The " germ system " is the result of work by Louis Pasteur. The other great scientist was Antoine Bechamp , French biologist 1816 - 1908, whose picture should be on the other side of the coin. Possibly his picture should be on both sides. ============= This book is the last work by a man who should today be regarded as one of the founders of modern medicine and biology and who deserves a place as one of the giants of the history of science. History, however, is written by the winners; the career of Antoine Bechamp, and the manner in which both he and his work have been written out of history, bear witness to the truth of this statement. http://www.sumeria.net/dream.html ================ The work of these two men effect our lives today. The problem is, Pasteur was a politician and a member of " The Ruling Class " . ( I have a book of which the title is " The Ruling Class " , but it is talking about America, not 18th century France ) Likely this, and other factors caused Antoine Bechamp to be left out of history. Here is a note on Louis Pasteur..... Note the word, " Cornerstone " Louis Pasteur was born on December 27, 1822 in Dole, in the region of Jura, France. His discovery that most infectious diseases are caused by germs, known as the " germ theory of disease " , is one of the most important in medical history. His work became the foundation for the science of microbiology, and a cornerstone of modern medicine ===================== THE DREAM AND LIE OF LOUIS PASTEUR by R. B. Pearson Pearson's book, originally published in the 1940's, under the title Pasteur, Plagiarist, Imposter, is an excellent introduction to the theory and practice of Pastuer's " science " , his inability to fully understand the concepts he was appropriating, and the consequences of the vaccines that he and his followers created. Louis Pasteur built his reputation and altered the course of twentieth century science by plagiazing and distorting the work Antoine Bechamp. Pearson exposes facts concerning Pasteur which are still being ignored today, and provides a detailed historical background to the current controversy surrounding vaccination. The weird thing is that even during Pasteur's lifetime, there were people who were saying that he was wrong, and that he knew he was wrong, but Pasteur was good at playing politics, and was in with the ruling class, so he won. The following is the entire text of the book. The sooner we get over the legacy of Pasteur's fake science and get back to reality the better. http://www.sumeria.net/dream.html ====================== Books have been written about the difference of opinion of these two men. Note that on his death bed, Pasteur admitted that Bechamp was right. To understand the differences, if you don't want to study a few hours, ( or many hundreds of hours ) hinges around " inside " and " outside " Pasteur says disease comes from outside the body ( the germ theory ), while Bechamp says it comes from within the body. That sounds like a simple difference. Most of us have ideas based on facts and we would likely cast our vote for BeChamp. If you want to chase this mystery, and form your own opinion, use the search engines and try these names. Louis Pasteur then....... Antoine Bechamp Understanding a bit of this could save your life, or not understanding this issue could cost it. Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2001 Report Share Posted December 26, 2001 Wayne Fugitt wrote: > Pasteur says disease comes from outside the body ( the germ theory ), while > Bechamp says it comes from within the body. Hmm....I do believe that disease comes from within the body, but yet if that's true, how is it that both my boys came down with the chicken pox? I mean, how is it that the disease manifested itself in the same way in two different boys? (i.e. red spots, pustules & scabbing over) As you can see, I find the subject confusing! Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2001 Report Share Posted December 26, 2001 Evening Mindy, >Hmm....I do believe that disease comes from within the body, but yet if >that's true, how is it that both my boys came down with the chicken pox? I >mean, how is it that the disease manifested itself in the same way in two >different boys? Disease is not the same thing as a temporary infection. Anyone can become infected from the outside. If the infection continues, it would become disease, and then only if the body could not defend itself properly. Possibly many of us are infected every day. In most cases, we never know it. Example....... A few months back I went to a customers office. This guy was both a friend and a customer. Few of my enemies buy anything from me. He had a bad stomach virus for about 3 weeks. He actually ran from me and stated that I did need to come near him. I ran him down and shook hands with him. I said..... I am not going to catch that bug. He is only 40 years old. He stated that when he was the sickest, the thought went through his mind. " If I was 50, this would have killed me " . We have no way of measuring how sick he really was, but for him to think like that, I would say he was very sick indeed. The point I was trying to make relative to Bechamp vs Pasteur, was that they had highly opposing theories. Our mainstream medical accepted the Pasteur theory and virtually all treatment is based on that erroneous theory. If we did not believe like Bechamp, we would not likely be on this list. Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 Mindy,Wayne, Good Evening! It's evident that certain types of cancer & Autoimmune diseases are irrevocably linked to improper diet,lifestyle, etc. There are diseases and then there are diseases!! Most of them cannot be listed under the same classification Some are from within i.e. cancer, autoimmune disease, etc. and some from without the body...i.e. those which originate from germs, viruses, etc. All healing imminently stems from the immune sytem, regardless of the source. :-) Cheers, Jo JoAnn Guest joguest Friendsforhealthnaturally http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html Mindy Behymer <mindy@l...> wrote: > Wayne Fugitt wrote: > > > Pasteur says disease comes from outside the body ( the germ theory ), while > > Bechamp says it comes from within the body. > > Hmm....I do believe that disease comes from within the body, but yet if > that's > true, how is it that both my boys came down with the chicken pox? I > mean, how > is it that the disease manifested itself in the same way in two > different boys? > (i.e. red spots, pustules & scabbing over) > > As you can see, I find the subject confusing! > > Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 Mindy I believe they are both right. We have hundreds of viruses in our bodies at any given time. Haemophilis Influenza B being one of them. If it gets out of control, it can be fatal. Herpes is another. Some lay dormant for years, then are activated by certain things. Other germs are passed from one person to another - airborne or from touching etc. So I think, personally, they are both right.... JMHO... Tracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 The " Hygienists " (see, Herbert Shelton), also believe that disease " occurs " within. But, I believe their view is that disease occurs " within " in the sense that, while there may or may not be an external (or internal) toxin, micro-organism, or other disease causing process, such potential external instigators must encounter a weakened internal state. This " internal " health dynamic, will, if strong and uncompromised, prevent, neutralize and block any onslaught from outside. It seems to me, that this notion is self-evident, since there are no cases where " everyone " exposed to conditions proven to cause disease, invariably contract or develop it. By the same token, it seems obvious to me, that no matter how strong your " immunity " may be, it's possible to find yourself in a situation, however unlikely in fact, that will invade your body successfully. - " Mindy Behymer " <mindy Wednesday, December 26, 2001 9:33 AM Re: Who is to blame for our Medical System > Wayne Fugitt wrote: > > > Pasteur says disease comes from outside the body ( the germ theory ), while > > Bechamp says it comes from within the body. > > Hmm....I do believe that disease comes from within the body, but yet if > that's > true, how is it that both my boys came down with the chicken pox? I > mean, how > is it that the disease manifested itself in the same way in two > different boys? > (i.e. red spots, pustules & scabbing over) > > As you can see, I find the subject confusing! > > Mindy > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > and well being. > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > Subscription and list archives are at: > Gettingwell > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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