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Everyone needs to understand the risks involved in eating without awareness

of the long-term consequences. This should be taught to all in grade-school

at the latest!

Shirley

 

******

If you believe heart disease does not begin developing until middle age,

you're not alone. This misperception is widespread.

 

A new national survey, conducted by Opinion Research Corporation, reveals

that most Americans (78%) are not aware that the signs of heart disease

actually begin developing during childhood.

 

The fact is that overweight and sedentary children, especially those who

are junk food junkies with diets high in saturated fat, are well on their

way to becoming adults with significant risk for heart

disease. This potential epidemic led heart-health professionals to hold a

special session on kids and heart disease risk during the 2001 American

Heart Association's (AHA) annual Scientific Sessions in

Anaheim, California.

 

Clinical research has now confirmed that elevated cholesterol levels in

children are directly associated with the development of atherosclerosis

(arterial plaque build-up) starting at a young age.

Studies continue to confirm that diet does matter, even in children, when

it comes to heart health.

 

The most recent study on the subject, published in the Journal of the

American Medical Association (JAMA) and conducted by Dr. Margo Denke,

professor of medicine and nutrition researcher at the University of Texas

Southwestern Medical Center, confirmed that simple dietary substitutions

make a difference in lowering cholesterol levels, not only in adults but

also in children. This groundbreaking research

revealed that the entire family can benefit from a heart-healthy diet, as

cholesterol levels were dramatically lowered in adults and children when

they switched from butter (saturated fat diet) to margarine (unsaturated

fat diet)[?]. After just six weeks, cholesterol levels were lowered by 10%

in both adults and children on the margarine diet.

 

Dr. Denke, a member of the National Cholesterol Education Program's (NCEP)

expert panel on the treatment of high cholesterol, noted that the dietary

habits parents teach to their children are important.

 

" Our study confirms the recommendations of both the American Heart

Association and the National Cholesterol Education Program - that choosing

margarine over butter makes a difference. If you consume a low saturated

fat diet, you're going to get lower blood cholesterol levels and a lower

risk for heart disease, " said Denke. " What children eat today makes a

difference tomorrow - not just fifty years

later. Simple heart-healthy changes in eating habits that are introduced

early are more likely to be maintained for life. "

 

The Opinion Research survey also found that there are several things

parents say they could be doing more of to help their children, and their

entire family, eat a more heart-healthy diet. Most mentioned were: *

Controlling portion sizes (46%); * Increasing the amounts of fruits and

vegetables consumed (77%); * Limiting the amount of fast food consumed

(76%); * Using more margarine and low-fat dairy products (53%); and *

Preparing foods with less salt (57%).

 

The survey also found that three-fourths (76%) of parents say they have

never had their oldest child's cholesterol levels checked. To make matters

worse, nearly half (46%) of parents admit that their child either is a junk

food junkie or eats healthfully only part of the time.

 

This past spring, the NCEP issued updated guidelines for the detection,

evaluation, and treatment of high blood cholesterol in adults, which

included this recommendation: " Everyone older than age two should care

about cholesterol to reduce the risk of developing heart disease as an

adult. Children as well as adults can improve the health of their hearts by

following a low-saturated-fat and low-cholesterol diet, avoiding obesity,

and being physically active. "

 

The American Heart Association Internet site - www.americanheart.org -

offers tips for making simple dietary changes to make the entire family's

diet more heart-healthy. For more nformation about Denke's

research, visit www.margarine.org.

 

I am 68 and have cardiovascular disease. I take 300 mg. of CoQ-10 and four

of the Pauling formula tablets daily. I have done so for five

months. When I began I had a 70% occlusion of my carotid arteries. A

recent scan showed a 20% improvement on the left side, although the right

side remained unchanged. My cardiologist was astonished, for such stenosis

(blockage) rarely improves. I mentioned the nutrients. Not surprisingly,

he just scoffed.

 

I buy sixty-60 mg CoQ-10 veg-caps for under $15.00 and pay under $10.00 for

the Pauling formula (90 caplets). If you know of a better price, please

let me know.

 

If you haven't read the clinical evidence on CoQ-10, see:

 

<http://cat007.com/coq10.htm>http://cat007.com/coq10.htm

 

The Pauling research is at:

 

<http://cat007.com/pauling.htm>http://cat007.com/pauling.htm

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

 

 

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" drjoncat (by way of The Havens ) " wrote:

 

> The Pauling research is at:

>

> <http://cat007.com/pauling.htm>http://cat007.com/pauling.htm

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

Wow, what incredible research both Pauling and the author of this web page have

done!!

 

When I was in grade school I saw a show in which Linus Pauling was given a

cardboard box with a wooden toy enclosed inside. He was not told anything

about the toy other than to try to figure out what shape it was without opening

the box. So he shook the box and talked out loud, describing his thought

processes as he tried to figure out what shape the toy was, and wouldn't you

know, he was right! (I think it was something like an octagonal wooden toy -

fairly unusual)

 

Mindy, easy to entertain and impress

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Where do you get the " Pauling pills " mentioned in the post below?

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<thehavens

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Wednesday, December 19, 2001 8:58 PM

HEART DISEASE BEGINS IN CHILDHOOD???

 

 

> Everyone needs to understand the risks involved in eating without

awareness

> of the long-term consequences. This should be taught to all in

grade-school

> at the latest!

> Shirley

>

> ******

> If you believe heart disease does not begin developing until middle age,

> you're not alone. This misperception is widespread.

>

> A new national survey, conducted by Opinion Research Corporation, reveals

> that most Americans (78%) are not aware that the signs of heart disease

> actually begin developing during childhood.

>

> The fact is that overweight and sedentary children, especially those who

> are junk food junkies with diets high in saturated fat, are well on their

> way to becoming adults with significant risk for heart

> disease. This potential epidemic led heart-health professionals to hold a

> special session on kids and heart disease risk during the 2001 American

> Heart Association's (AHA) annual Scientific Sessions in

> Anaheim, California.

>

> Clinical research has now confirmed that elevated cholesterol levels in

> children are directly associated with the development of atherosclerosis

> (arterial plaque build-up) starting at a young age.

> Studies continue to confirm that diet does matter, even in children, when

> it comes to heart health.

>

> The most recent study on the subject, published in the Journal of the

> American Medical Association (JAMA) and conducted by Dr. Margo Denke,

> professor of medicine and nutrition researcher at the University of Texas

> Southwestern Medical Center, confirmed that simple dietary substitutions

> make a difference in lowering cholesterol levels, not only in adults but

> also in children. This groundbreaking research

> revealed that the entire family can benefit from a heart-healthy diet, as

> cholesterol levels were dramatically lowered in adults and children when

> they switched from butter (saturated fat diet) to margarine (unsaturated

> fat diet)[?]. After just six weeks, cholesterol levels were lowered by

10%

> in both adults and children on the margarine diet.

>

> Dr. Denke, a member of the National Cholesterol Education Program's (NCEP)

> expert panel on the treatment of high cholesterol, noted that the dietary

> habits parents teach to their children are important.

>

> " Our study confirms the recommendations of both the American Heart

> Association and the National Cholesterol Education Program - that choosing

> margarine over butter makes a difference. If you consume a low saturated

> fat diet, you're going to get lower blood cholesterol levels and a lower

> risk for heart disease, " said Denke. " What children eat today makes a

> difference tomorrow - not just fifty years

> later. Simple heart-healthy changes in eating habits that are introduced

> early are more likely to be maintained for life. "

>

> The Opinion Research survey also found that there are several things

> parents say they could be doing more of to help their children, and their

> entire family, eat a more heart-healthy diet. Most mentioned were: *

> Controlling portion sizes (46%); * Increasing the amounts of fruits and

> vegetables consumed (77%); * Limiting the amount of fast food consumed

> (76%); * Using more margarine and low-fat dairy products (53%); and *

> Preparing foods with less salt (57%).

>

> The survey also found that three-fourths (76%) of parents say they have

> never had their oldest child's cholesterol levels checked. To make

matters

> worse, nearly half (46%) of parents admit that their child either is a

junk

> food junkie or eats healthfully only part of the time.

>

> This past spring, the NCEP issued updated guidelines for the detection,

> evaluation, and treatment of high blood cholesterol in adults, which

> included this recommendation: " Everyone older than age two should care

> about cholesterol to reduce the risk of developing heart disease as an

> adult. Children as well as adults can improve the health of their hearts

by

> following a low-saturated-fat and low-cholesterol diet, avoiding obesity,

> and being physically active. "

>

> The American Heart Association Internet site - www.americanheart.org -

> offers tips for making simple dietary changes to make the entire family's

> diet more heart-healthy. For more nformation about Denke's

> research, visit www.margarine.org.

>

> I am 68 and have cardiovascular disease. I take 300 mg. of CoQ-10 and

four

> of the Pauling formula tablets daily. I have done so for five

> months. When I began I had a 70% occlusion of my carotid arteries. A

> recent scan showed a 20% improvement on the left side, although the right

> side remained unchanged. My cardiologist was astonished, for such

stenosis

> (blockage) rarely improves. I mentioned the nutrients. Not surprisingly,

> he just scoffed.

>

> I buy sixty-60 mg CoQ-10 veg-caps for under $15.00 and pay under $10.00

for

> the Pauling formula (90 caplets). If you know of a better price, please

> let me know.

>

> If you haven't read the clinical evidence on CoQ-10, see:

>

> <http://cat007.com/coq10.htm>http://cat007.com/coq10.htm

>

> The Pauling research is at:

>

> <http://cat007.com/pauling.htm>http://cat007.com/pauling.htm

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

>

>

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Bad habits begin in childhood. Heart disease is their eventual

result. Change the habits and the outcome changes - your body isn't

some static thing like a building, it is a chemical process in

constant renewal and if you go from bad to good eating habits and

solve other underlying problems you can in fact reverse the effects of

the prior indiscretions over time.

 

Andy

 

Gettingwell, drjoncat <thehavens@h...> (by way of The

Havens <thehavens@h...>) wrote:

> Everyone needs to understand the risks involved in eating without

awareness

> of the long-term consequences. This should be taught to all in

grade-school

> at the latest!

> Shirley

>

> ******

> If you believe heart disease does not begin developing until middle

age,

> you're not alone. This misperception is widespread.

>

> A new national survey, conducted by Opinion Research Corporation,

reveals

> that most Americans (78%) are not aware that the signs of heart

disease

> actually begin developing during childhood.

>

> The fact is that overweight and sedentary children, especially those

who

> are junk food junkies with diets high in saturated fat, are well on

their

> way to becoming adults with significant risk for heart

> disease. This potential epidemic led heart-health professionals to

hold a

> special session on kids and heart disease risk during the 2001

American

> Heart Association's (AHA) annual Scientific Sessions in

> Anaheim, California.

>

> Clinical research has now confirmed that elevated cholesterol levels

in

> children are directly associated with the development of

atherosclerosis

> (arterial plaque build-up) starting at a young age.

> Studies continue to confirm that diet does matter, even in children,

when

> it comes to heart health.

>

> The most recent study on the subject, published in the Journal of

the

> American Medical Association (JAMA) and conducted by Dr. Margo

Denke,

> professor of medicine and nutrition researcher at the University of

Texas

> Southwestern Medical Center, confirmed that simple dietary

substitutions

> make a difference in lowering cholesterol levels, not only in adults

but

> also in children. This groundbreaking research

> revealed that the entire family can benefit from a heart-healthy

diet, as

> cholesterol levels were dramatically lowered in adults and children

when

> they switched from butter (saturated fat diet) to margarine

(unsaturated

> fat diet)[?]. After just six weeks, cholesterol levels were lowered

by 10%

> in both adults and children on the margarine diet.

>

> Dr. Denke, a member of the National Cholesterol Education Program's

(NCEP)

> expert panel on the treatment of high cholesterol, noted that the

dietary

> habits parents teach to their children are important.

>

> " Our study confirms the recommendations of both the American Heart

> Association and the National Cholesterol Education Program - that

choosing

> margarine over butter makes a difference. If you consume a low

saturated

> fat diet, you're going to get lower blood cholesterol levels and a

lower

> risk for heart disease, " said Denke. " What children eat today makes

a

> difference tomorrow - not just fifty years

> later. Simple heart-healthy changes in eating habits that are

introduced

> early are more likely to be maintained for life. "

>

> The Opinion Research survey also found that there are several things

> parents say they could be doing more of to help their children, and

their

> entire family, eat a more heart-healthy diet. Most mentioned were: *

> Controlling portion sizes (46%); * Increasing the amounts of fruits

and

> vegetables consumed (77%); * Limiting the amount of fast food

consumed

> (76%); * Using more margarine and low-fat dairy products (53%); and

*

> Preparing foods with less salt (57%).

>

> The survey also found that three-fourths (76%) of parents say they

have

> never had their oldest child's cholesterol levels checked. To make

matters

> worse, nearly half (46%) of parents admit that their child either is

a junk

> food junkie or eats healthfully only part of the time.

>

> This past spring, the NCEP issued updated guidelines for the

detection,

> evaluation, and treatment of high blood cholesterol in adults, which

> included this recommendation: " Everyone older than age two should

care

> about cholesterol to reduce the risk of developing heart disease as

an

> adult. Children as well as adults can improve the health of their

hearts by

> following a low-saturated-fat and low-cholesterol diet, avoiding

obesity,

> and being physically active. "

>

> The American Heart Association Internet site - www.americanheart.org

-

> offers tips for making simple dietary changes to make the entire

family's

> diet more heart-healthy. For more nformation about Denke's

> research, visit www.margarine.org.

>

> I am 68 and have cardiovascular disease. I take 300 mg. of CoQ-10

and four

> of the Pauling formula tablets daily. I have done so for five

> months. When I began I had a 70% occlusion of my carotid arteries.

A

> recent scan showed a 20% improvement on the left side, although the

right

> side remained unchanged. My cardiologist was astonished, for such

stenosis

> (blockage) rarely improves. I mentioned the nutrients. Not

surprisingly,

> he just scoffed.

>

> I buy sixty-60 mg CoQ-10 veg-caps for under $15.00 and pay under

$10.00 for

> the Pauling formula (90 caplets). If you know of a better price,

please

> let me know.

>

> If you haven't read the clinical evidence on CoQ-10, see:

>

> <http://cat007.com/coq10.htm>http://cat007.com/coq10.htm

>

> The Pauling research is at:

>

> <http://cat007.com/pauling.htm>http://cat007.com/pauling.htm

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

>

>

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In a message dated 20/12/01 14:53:12 GMT Standard Time,

joguest writes:

 

and far roo many have a McDonald's breakfast as well - I cannot understand

parents allowing their children to eat such rubbish for breakfast although I

admit that mine must have eaten almost as bad because we were not aware of

what was good and what wasn't at that time (my excuse and I will stick with

it!!)

Marianne

> Good Morning!

> They are recommending margarine as a healthy spread? Yikes!!!!

> Well...considering the majority of american children eat Kelloggs

> Poptarts for breakfast, the statistics are not all that surpising!

> <grin>

> Regards, JoAnn

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Good Morning!

They are recommending margarine as a healthy spread? Yikes!!!!

Well...considering the majority of american children eat Kelloggs

Poptarts for breakfast, the statistics are not all that surpising!

<grin>

Regards, JoAnn

 

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drjoncat <thehavens@h...> (by way of The Havens <thehavens@h...>)

wrote:

> Everyone needs to understand the risks involved in eating without

awareness

> of the long-term consequences. This should be taught to all in

grade-school

> at the latest!

> Shirley

>

> ******

> If you believe heart disease does not begin developing until middle

age,

> you're not alone. This misperception is widespread.

>

> A new national survey, conducted by Opinion Research Corporation,

reveals

> that most Americans (78%) are not aware that the signs of heart

disease

> actually begin developing during childhood.

>

> The fact is that overweight and sedentary children, especially

those who

> are junk food junkies with diets high in saturated fat, are well on

their

> way to becoming adults with significant risk for heart

> disease. This potential epidemic led heart-health professionals to

hold a

> special session on kids and heart disease risk during the 2001

American

> Heart Association's (AHA) annual Scientific Sessions in

> Anaheim, California.

>

> Clinical research has now confirmed that elevated cholesterol

levels in

> children are directly associated with the development of

atherosclerosis

> (arterial plaque build-up) starting at a young age.

> Studies continue to confirm that diet does matter, even in

children, when

> it comes to heart health.

>

> The most recent study on the subject, published in the Journal of

the

> American Medical Association (JAMA) and conducted by Dr. Margo

Denke,

> professor of medicine and nutrition researcher at the University of

Texas

> Southwestern Medical Center, confirmed that simple dietary

substitutions

> make a difference in lowering cholesterol levels, not only in

adults but

> also in children. This groundbreaking research

> revealed that the entire family can benefit from a heart-healthy

diet, as

> cholesterol levels were dramatically lowered in adults and children

when

> they switched from butter (saturated fat diet) to margarine

(unsaturated

> fat diet)[?]. After just six weeks, cholesterol levels were

lowered by 10%

> in both adults and children on the margarine diet.

>

> Dr. Denke, a member of the National Cholesterol Education Program's

(NCEP)

> expert panel on the treatment of high cholesterol, noted that the

dietary

> habits parents teach to their children are important.

>

> " Our study confirms the recommendations of both the American Heart

> Association and the National Cholesterol Education Program - that

choosing

> margarine over butter makes a difference. If you consume a low

saturated

> fat diet, you're going to get lower blood cholesterol levels and a

lower

> risk for heart disease, " said Denke. " What children eat today

makes a

> difference tomorrow - not just fifty years

> later. Simple heart-healthy changes in eating habits that are

introduced

> early are more likely to be maintained for life. "

>

> The Opinion Research survey also found that there are several

things

> parents say they could be doing more of to help their children, and

their

> entire family, eat a more heart-healthy diet. Most mentioned were:

*

> Controlling portion sizes (46%); * Increasing the amounts of fruits

and

> vegetables consumed (77%); * Limiting the amount of fast food

consumed

> (76%); * Using more margarine and low-fat dairy products (53%); and

*

> Preparing foods with less salt (57%).

>

> The survey also found that three-fourths (76%) of parents say they

have

> never had their oldest child's cholesterol levels checked. To make

matters

> worse, nearly half (46%) of parents admit that their child either

is a junk

> food junkie or eats healthfully only part of the time.

>

> This past spring, the NCEP issued updated guidelines for the

detection,

> evaluation, and treatment of high blood cholesterol in adults,

which

> included this recommendation: " Everyone older than age two should

care

> about cholesterol to reduce the risk of developing heart disease as

an

> adult. Children as well as adults can improve the health of their

hearts by

> following a low-saturated-fat and low-cholesterol diet, avoiding

obesity,

> and being physically active. "

>

> The American Heart Association Internet site -

www.americanheart.org -

> offers tips for making simple dietary changes to make the entire

family's

> diet more heart-healthy. For more nformation about Denke's

> research, visit www.margarine.org.

>

> I am 68 and have cardiovascular disease. I take 300 mg. of CoQ-10

and four

> of the Pauling formula tablets daily. I have done so for five

> months. When I began I had a 70% occlusion of my carotid

arteries. A

> recent scan showed a 20% improvement on the left side, although the

right

> side remained unchanged. My cardiologist was astonished, for such

stenosis

> (blockage) rarely improves. I mentioned the nutrients. Not

surprisingly,

> he just scoffed.

>

> I buy sixty-60 mg CoQ-10 veg-caps for under $15.00 and pay under

$10.00 for

> the Pauling formula (90 caplets). If you know of a better price,

please

> let me know.

>

> If you haven't read the clinical evidence on CoQ-10, see:

>

> <http://cat007.com/coq10.htm>http://cat007.com/coq10.htm

>

> The Pauling research is at:

>

> <http://cat007.com/pauling.htm>http://cat007.com/pauling.htm

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

>

>

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marianne2406 wrote:

 

> In a message dated 20/12/01 14:53:12 GMT Standard Time,

> joguest writes:

>

> and far roo many have a McDonald's breakfast as well - I cannot understand

> parents allowing their children to eat such rubbish for breakfast although I

> admit that mine must have eaten almost as bad because we were not aware of

> what was good and what wasn't at that time (my excuse and I will stick with

> it!!)

 

Marianne,

Same here, so don't feel too bad. We can only do as well as we know. And we

can't change what we didn't know in the past.

Hmm, I bought some turkey hot dogs at the grocery store for my kids, thinking

that I was getting something healthy, then I got home and saw that they had

nitrates in them. Is nitrates the most worrying thing about lunchmeat?

 

Mindy, who goes spastic trying to figure out what in the WORLD to feed her

kids!! *sigh*

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" Mindy Behymer " <mindy

 

Thursday, December 20, 2001 3:27 PM

Re: Re: HEART DISEASE BEGINS IN CHILDHOOD???

> Hmm, I bought some turkey hot dogs at the grocery store for my kids,

thinking

> that I was getting something healthy, then I got home and saw that they

had

> nitrates in them. Is nitrates the most worrying thing about lunchmeat?

>

> Mindy, who goes spastic trying to figure out what in the WORLD to feed her

> kids!! *sigh*

 

We all have to evaluate the risks for ourselves, but for me buying

organic meats is a very high priority. Poultry is filled with antibiotics

unless it is organic. Beef has growth hormones. Then there is the kind of

meat which goes into " lunchmeats " . A long time ago I took a meat inspection

class. There are different grades of meat. The lowest grades go into

lunchmeats. I took the course long before I had an awareness of food

additives. But low grade meats are generally from animals with problems.

Sometimes it is an older animal which is just tough. But sometimes they

have much more severe problems. Animals with tumors & deformities get used

in lunchmeats. The exact rules have probably changed since I took the meat

inspection course back in 1965, but I suspect they are still using low-end

animals in lunchmeats. I am not sure if organic lunchmeat is any better in

this regard than the run of the mill stuff in supermarkets, but at least

with organic meats one is not getting a load of pesticide from the animal

feed, and much of the organic meat is free-range so the animals are not

being fed lots of grains to degrade their body fats.

 

When I was a kid, my Mom used to cook up a roast twice a week & me &

my Dad got sandwiches from the leftover meat in our lunchboxes. Now I

realize I was eating far too much bread as a kid, but other than that, the

food was relatively healthy compared to most lunchmeats.

 

Alobar

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Mindy,

If there's a Natural Foods Market in your local grocery or a HFS

nearby, they usually carry Applegate Farms lunchmeat and healthy hot

dogs. If you have a coop in your area, that helps a bit. I know where

you're coming from hon. The good stuff is usually hidden away in the

farthest aisle possible! I thank God for my Krogers store, it is a

God-send to me! I do know the healthy breads such as Ezekiel breads

and Bible breads are usually in the freezer.:-) Took me awhile to

find that. It requires a lot of determination and perserverance. I've

been able to replace all the unhealthy foods in my household so far.

Keeping my fingers crossed, though. I just hope they continue with

these things. You never can tell, one week I couldn't find my organic

eggs and I was frantic! LOL

Best of luck with it all...JoAnn

 

 

 

Mindy Behymer <mindy@l...> wrote:

> marianne2406@a... wrote:

>

> > In a message dated 20/12/01 14:53:12 GMT Standard Time,

> > joguest@m... writes:

> >

> > and far roo many have a McDonald's breakfast as well - I cannot

understand

> > parents allowing their children to eat such rubbish for breakfast

although I

> > admit that mine must have eaten almost as bad because we were not

aware of

> > what was good and what wasn't at that time (my excuse and I will

stick with

> > it!!)

>

> Marianne,

> Same here, so don't feel too bad. We can only do as well as we

know. And we

> can't change what we didn't know in the past.

> Hmm, I bought some turkey hot dogs at the grocery store for my

kids, thinking

> that I was getting something healthy, then I got home and saw that

they had

> nitrates in them. Is nitrates the most worrying thing about

lunchmeat?

>

> Mindy, who goes spastic trying to figure out what in the WORLD to

feed her

> kids!! *sigh*

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