Guest guest Posted December 19, 2001 Report Share Posted December 19, 2001 All this talk about high cholesterol being a danger and requiring medical attention is really disturbing. It is an invention of the pharmaceutical companies. In case you didn't look up Dr. Byrnes newsletter here is a little more. **** 2. Readers Taking Control of Their Health! I received this email from a student of the Academy of Natural Therapies and a r to this e-zine. It came on the heels of last issue's report on the phony cholesterol/heart disease issue and the dangers of statin drugs, currently pushed on people with " high " cholesterol levels. I like this letter because it shows people taking control of their health and thumbing their nose at harmful health dogmas. Dear Dr. Byrnes: I'm working on " Nutritional Cardiology " and it's a little harder than the last two [courses I took] - but I'll get through. I went to my doctor for my annual test and we ended up in an argument. He told me my cholesterol was 291 and I needed to go on his low fat/cholesterol regime. When I told him I would not, he told me I was " playing with fire " . I left his office. Later, I wrote him a letter as I realized that he had not given me any other information that I had asked for (LDL, HDL, triglycerides, and a thyroid test). He expects me to go in every 3 months and I told him I'd be back when I am sick and not before. I read some of Dr. Ravnskov's book [The Cholesterol Myths, available from 1-877-707-1776] and it was wonderful to hear that not only is high cholesterol normal in older women, but actually associated with longevity. My 77 year old mother, who is now following my leads, keeps saying " I hope you're right " . Right or wrong, at least now I am enjoying my food and feeling great to boot. What more can we expect from this life? I'm actually now more afraid of phoney food than of cholesterol. Now that's a switch! Cheers - and have a wonderful holiday! Pene M in Michigan. COMMENT: That's right, Pene, women with higher blood cholesterol levels DO live longer than women with lower levels as a comprehensive review of the available studies showed (Circulation (1992), 86:3, 1046-60). A recent study published in the Lancet showed the same thing in men (Lancet (2001), 358: 351-55). I also have a client who essentially told her doctor the same thing as Pene did and then faxed him a copy of Dr. Mary Enig's article that I ran in the last issue of this e-zine. He was shocked, but the truth hurts sometimes doesn't it? If you're on a tasteless, low-fat diet and/or taking various drugs to lower your " high " cholesterol levels, I hope you'll take Pene's letter and experiences to heart (no pun intended) and rethink your decision as soon as possible. _____________ Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2001 Report Share Posted December 19, 2001 Good Afternoon, Yes...Cholesterol is a term fabricated by the pharmaceutical companies, I would totally agree with that. In some respects they are right especially in their evaluation of HDL to LDL and it's dangers..., however further research has found that a substance called C-Reactive Protein and triglycerides are also factors. ER patients in the throes of coronary thrombosis are found to have high levels of both! The cholesterol scare was originally fabricated to increase drug sales. Seems as though it worked. Millions of individuals who aren't even high risk take the cholesterol lowering drugs, much to my dismay. These drugs deplete the bodies coq10, which leads to heart attack. More coq10 is found in the heart than any other organ! Regards, JoAnn JoAnn Guest joguest Friendsforhealthnaturally http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html " the desert_rat " <ron@m...> wrote: > All this talk about high cholesterol being a danger and requiring > medical attention is really disturbing. It is an invention of the > pharmaceutical companies. > > In case you didn't look up Dr. Byrnes newsletter here is a little more. > **** > 2. Readers Taking Control of Their Health! > > > > I received this email from a student of the Academy of Natural Therapies > and a r to this e-zine. It came on the heels of last issue's > report on the phony cholesterol/heart disease issue and the dangers of > statin drugs, currently pushed on people with " high " cholesterol levels. > I like this letter because it shows people taking control of their > health and thumbing their nose at harmful health dogmas. > > > > Dear Dr. Byrnes: > > > > I'm working on " Nutritional Cardiology " and it's a little harder than > the last two [courses I took] - but I'll get through. > > > > I went to my doctor for my annual test and we ended up in an argument. > He told me my cholesterol was 291 and I needed to go on his low > fat/cholesterol regime. When I told him I would not, he told me I was > " playing with fire " . I left his office. Later, I wrote him a letter as I > realized that he had not given me any other information that I had asked > for (LDL, HDL, triglycerides, and a thyroid test). > > > > He expects me to go in every 3 months and I told him I'd be back when I > am sick and not before. I read some of Dr. Ravnskov's book [The > Cholesterol Myths, available from 1-877-707-1776] and it was wonderful > to hear that not only is high cholesterol normal in older women, but > actually associated with longevity. My 77 year old mother, who is now > following my leads, keeps saying " I hope you're right " . Right or wrong, > at least now I am enjoying my food and feeling great to boot. What more > can we expect from this life? I'm actually now more afraid of phoney > food than of cholesterol. Now that's a switch! > > > > Cheers - and have a wonderful holiday! > > > > Pene M in Michigan. > > > > COMMENT: That's right, Pene, women with higher blood cholesterol levels > DO live longer than women with lower levels as a comprehensive review of > the available studies showed (Circulation (1992), 86:3, 1046-60). A > recent study published in the Lancet showed the same thing in men > (Lancet (2001), 358: 351-55). I also have a client who essentially told > her doctor the same thing as Pene did and then faxed him a copy of Dr. > Mary Enig's article that I ran in the last issue of this e-zine. He was > shocked, but the truth hurts sometimes doesn't it? If you're on a > tasteless, low-fat diet and/or taking various drugs to lower your " high " > cholesterol levels, I hope you'll take Pene's letter and experiences to > heart (no pun intended) and rethink your decision as soon as possible. > _____________ > Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at > http://www.mail2world.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2001 Report Share Posted December 19, 2001 - " mrsjoguest " <joguest Thursday, December 20, 2001 6:55 AM Re: high cholesterol ? > Good Afternoon, > Yes...Cholesterol is a term fabricated by the pharmaceutical > companies, I would totally agree with that. In some respects they are > right especially in their evaluation of HDL to LDL and it's > dangers..., however further research has found that a substance > called C-Reactive Protein and triglycerides are also factors. Hi JoAnn, Add to that the level of lipoprotein A, homocysteine, the Omega 6 to 3 ratio, the amount of Omega 3 EPA in the heart tissue, the amount of Vit E, Vit C and Lysine in the diet. No so simple as just high cholesterol but they are all involved. ======================== Good Health & Long Life, Greg Watson, gowatson USDA database (food breakdown) http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/ PubMed (research papers) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi DWIDP (nutrient analysis) http://www.walford.com/dwdemo/dw2b63demo.exe Patch file for above http://www.walford.com/download/dwidp67u.exe KIM (omega analysis) http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2001 Report Share Posted December 20, 2001 Note: The " normal range " given on the lab tests really is NOT a proper normal range. It is a moralistic number. A properly defined upper normal limit is the value below which 97.5% of normal healthy individuals fall. This number is 272 for total cholesterol. Generally if your cholesterol is going up it just means your body needs more because it isn't able to use it properly. Most of the cholesterol in you is made by your liver, not ingested. At one point mine went up a lot and I lowered it 96 points by taking some appropriate vitamins. My mother was trying to lower hers and her lovastatin reduced it by 12 points, in addition to making her miserable. My vitamins made me feel a lot better. Andy Gettingwell, " Greg Watson " <gowatson@s...> wrote: > - > " mrsjoguest " <joguest@m...> > <Gettingwell> > Thursday, December 20, 2001 6:55 AM > Re: high cholesterol ? > > > > Good Afternoon, > > Yes...Cholesterol is a term fabricated by the pharmaceutical > > companies, I would totally agree with that. In some respects they are > > right especially in their evaluation of HDL to LDL and it's > > dangers..., however further research has found that a substance > > called C-Reactive Protein and triglycerides are also factors. > > Hi JoAnn, > > Add to that the level of lipoprotein A, homocysteine, the Omega 6 to 3 ratio, the amount of Omega 3 EPA in the heart > tissue, the amount of Vit E, Vit C and Lysine in the diet. > > No so simple as just high cholesterol but they are all involved. > ======================== > Good Health & Long Life, > Greg Watson, gowatson@s... > USDA database (food breakdown) http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/ > PubMed (research papers) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi > DWIDP (nutrient analysis) http://www.walford.com/dwdemo/dw2b63demo.exe > Patch file for above http://www.walford.com/download/dwidp67u.exe > KIM (omega analysis) http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2001 Report Share Posted December 20, 2001 Andy, Good Morning! I think few people are aware of the fact that Dietary cholesterol doesn't necessarily translate into blood cholesterol. As you stated it comes from your liver. I am prone to believe that if one has high cholesterol levels it is due to the fact that the liver function is not optimal rather than the fact that one is taking in too much cholesterol in their diet. Statins are linked to life-threatening muscular disease. Baycol is evidence of that! JoAnn Guest joguest Friendsforhealthnaturally " andrewhallcutler " <AndyCutler@a...> wrote: > Note: > > The " normal range " given on the lab tests really is NOT a proper > normal range. It is a moralistic number. A properly defined > upper normal limit is the value below which 97.5% of normal healthy > individuals fall. This number is 272 for total cholesterol. > > Generally if your cholesterol is going up it just means your body > needs more because it isn't able to use it properly. Most of the > cholesterol in you is made by your liver, not ingested. > > At one point mine went up a lot and I lowered it 96 points by taking > some appropriate vitamins. My mother was trying to lower hers and her > lovastatin reduced it by 12 points, in addition to making her > miserable. My vitamins made me feel a lot better. > > Andy > > Gettingwell, " Greg Watson " <gowatson@s...> wrote: > > - > > " mrsjoguest " <joguest@m...> > > <Gettingwell> > > Thursday, December 20, 2001 6:55 AM > > Re: high cholesterol ? > > > > > > > Good Afternoon, > > > Yes...Cholesterol is a term fabricated by the pharmaceutical > > > companies, I would totally agree with that. In some respects they > are > > > right especially in their evaluation of HDL to LDL and it's > > > dangers..., however further research has found that a substance > > > called C-Reactive Protein and triglycerides are also factors. > > > > Hi JoAnn, > > > > Add to that the level of lipoprotein A, homocysteine, the Omega 6 to > 3 ratio, the amount of Omega 3 EPA in the heart > > tissue, the amount of Vit E, Vit C and Lysine in the diet. > > > > No so simple as just high cholesterol but they are all involved. > > ======================== > > Good Health & Long Life, > > Greg Watson, gowatson@s... > > USDA database (food breakdown) > http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/ > > PubMed (research papers) > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi > > DWIDP (nutrient analysis) > http://www.walford.com/dwdemo/dw2b63demo.exe > > Patch file for above > http://www.walford.com/download/dwidp67u.exe > > KIM (omega analysis) > http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2001 Report Share Posted December 21, 2001 Gettingwell, " mrsjoguest " <joguest@m...> wrote: > Andy, > Good Morning! > I think few people are aware of the fact that Dietary cholesterol > doesn't necessarily translate into blood cholesterol. As you stated > it comes from your liver. I am prone to believe that if one has high > cholesterol levels it is due to the fact that the liver function is > not optimal rather than the fact that one is taking in too much > cholesterol in their diet. > Statins are linked to life-threatening muscular disease. Baycol is > evidence of that! More interestingly, in the study the FDA based approval on, there was an INCREASE in deaths from all causes that the FDA decided was " not statistically significant, " but which was larger than the decrease in deaths from one particular kind of heart disease which the FDA in its infinite wisdom decided WAS statistically significant. Andy > > JoAnn Guest > joguest@m... > Friendsforhealthnaturally > > " andrewhallcutler " <AndyCutler@a...> wrote: > > Note: > > > > The " normal range " given on the lab tests really is NOT a proper > > normal range. It is a moralistic number. A properly defined > > upper normal limit is the value below which 97.5% of normal healthy > > individuals fall. This number is 272 for total cholesterol. > > > > Generally if your cholesterol is going up it just means your body > > needs more because it isn't able to use it properly. Most of the > > cholesterol in you is made by your liver, not ingested. > > > > At one point mine went up a lot and I lowered it 96 points by > taking > > some appropriate vitamins. My mother was trying to lower hers and > her > > lovastatin reduced it by 12 points, in addition to making her > > miserable. My vitamins made me feel a lot better. > > > > Andy > > > > Gettingwell, " Greg Watson " <gowatson@s...> wrote: > > > - > > > " mrsjoguest " <joguest@m...> > > > <Gettingwell> > > > Thursday, December 20, 2001 6:55 AM > > > Re: high cholesterol ? > > > > > > > > > > Good Afternoon, > > > > Yes...Cholesterol is a term fabricated by the pharmaceutical > > > > companies, I would totally agree with that. In some respects > they > > are > > > > right especially in their evaluation of HDL to LDL and it's > > > > dangers..., however further research has found that a substance > > > > called C-Reactive Protein and triglycerides are also factors. > > > > > > Hi JoAnn, > > > > > > Add to that the level of lipoprotein A, homocysteine, the Omega 6 > to > > 3 ratio, the amount of Omega 3 EPA in the heart > > > tissue, the amount of Vit E, Vit C and Lysine in the diet. > > > > > > No so simple as just high cholesterol but they are all involved. > > > ======================== > > > Good Health & Long Life, > > > Greg Watson, gowatson@s... > > > USDA database (food breakdown) > > http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/ > > > PubMed (research papers) > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi > > > DWIDP (nutrient analysis) > > http://www.walford.com/dwdemo/dw2b63demo.exe > > > Patch file for above > > http://www.walford.com/download/dwidp67u.exe > > > KIM (omega analysis) > > http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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