Guest guest Posted June 21, 2001 Report Share Posted June 21, 2001 > > Pearl > By the way, this simple regiment also got me off of BP meds! It's 4 > years there also. Ya know, I used to eat a 1/2 cup of oatmeal with 2 egg whites and a little brown sugar cooked in it. Makes your oatmeal taste more like bread pudding. Looks like I may need to get my oatmeal back out and see if I can get my BP down again...by the way, thanks for the St. John's Wort advice. I have decided to try it and have been feeling much better lately! Happy Summer Solstice everyone! Celebrate by turning off as many electrical things as you can and spend a candlelit evening with a loved one! I am planning a candlelight picnic in the living room and playing cards and games with my boys. Blessings, Brandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2001 Report Share Posted June 21, 2001 Brandy, Amen. We often enjoy a game of cards, Scrabble or Cribbage by lantern light at night. It is truely wonderful! Valorie - boleybrandy herbal remedies Wednesday, June 20, 2001 4:11 PM [herbal remedies] Re: Cholesterol > > Pearl> By the way, this simple regiment also got me off of BP meds! It's 4> years there also.Ya know, I used to eat a 1/2 cup of oatmeal with 2 egg whites and a little brown sugar cooked in it. Makes your oatmeal taste more like bread pudding. Looks like I may need to get my oatmeal back out and see if I can get my BP down again...by the way, thanks for the St. John's Wort advice. I have decided to try it and have been feeling much better lately! Happy Summer Solstice everyone! Celebrate by turning off as many electrical things as you can and spend a candlelit evening with a loved one! I am planning a candlelight picnic in the living room and playing cards and games with my boys.Blessings,BrandyFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2001 Report Share Posted December 8, 2001 Recognize the pattern, select the points you need and always include Stomach 40. It helps a lot, but your pacient must have been going on a special diet, exercises, and sometimes, medicine (I means pills to low cholesterol). Enjoy, Roberta - juliegaines2001 acupuncture Friday, December 07, 2001 7:35 PM acupuncture cholesterol Can anyone explain to me how acupuncture can lower cholesterol levels? Why would needling work for a problem like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2001 Report Share Posted December 18, 2001 An excerpt from Dr. Byrnes current newsletter: COMMENT: That's right, Pene, women with higher blood cholesterol levels DO live longer than women with lower levels as a comprehensive review of the available studies showed (Circulation (1992), 86:3, 1046-60). A recent study published in the Lancet showed the same thing in men (Lancet (2001), 358: 351-55). I also have a client who essentially told her doctor the same thing as Pene did and then faxed him a copy of Dr. Mary Enig's article that I ran in the last issue of this e-zine. He was shocked, but the truth hurts sometimes doesn't it? If you're on a tasteless, low-fat diet and/or taking various drugs to lower your " high " cholesterol levels, I hope you'll take Pene's letter and experiences to heart (no pun intended) and rethink your decision as soon as possible. You can get the entire newsletter free at http://www.PowerHealth.net It also discusses selenium being good for and cancer. Ron _____________ Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2001 Report Share Posted December 18, 2001 In a message dated 18/12/01 08:53:58 GMT Standard Time, ron writes: I should live to be a ripe old age then because my cholesterol reading was double the recommended (10.8) at one time............... I can put off writing that will for a couple of more weeks then! Marianne > women with higher blood cholesterol levels > DO live longer than women with lower levels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2001 Report Share Posted December 18, 2001 In a message dated 18/12/01 17:04:54 GMT Standard Time, wayne writes: Evening Wayne (it could still be morning for you but almost bedtime for us) Unfortunately we do not get any other readings - My cholesterol reading is 10.8 and it should be 5.6 maximum for women. It is only if we ask or it is something that needs to be remedied that we are told anything but they would not tell me unless I specifically asked. Prior to joining this group, I had very little idea that I should be privvy to any other information and what to ask for. I will now have to wait for my next bloods to ask the relevant questions.... Marianne > Morning Marianne, > > >>I should live to be a ripe old age then because my cholesterol reading was > >double the recommended (10.8) at one time............... > > Which component is 10.8 ? You must be using some different units > than my lab uses. > > Do you have the numbers for all of the components? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2001 Report Share Posted December 18, 2001 Morning Marianne, >>I should live to be a ripe old age then because my cholesterol reading was >double the recommended (10.8) at one time............... Which component is 10.8 ? You must be using some different units than my lab uses. Do you have the numbers for all of the components? Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2001 Report Share Posted December 19, 2001 10.8 is high. Around 4 is supposedly o.k. Tracy - " Wayne Fugitt " <wayne Wednesday, 19 December 2001 05:56 Re: Cholesterol > Morning Marianne, > > >>I should live to be a ripe old age then because my cholesterol reading was > >double the recommended (10.8) at one time............... > > Which component is 10.8 ? You must be using some different units > than my lab uses. > > Do you have the numbers for all of the components? > > Wayne > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2001 Report Share Posted December 19, 2001 In a message dated 18/12/01 23:57:37 GMT Standard Time, nwgrant writes: Hi Tracey - Apparently 10.8 is quite dangerous and they were not amused that mine had gone up that high. I got it down to 6 with diet (once initially brought down by statins!!!) but they insisted that I went onto medication once my athersclerosis was diagnosed. I try not to take them but will take one if I know that I have exceeded a certain 'fat intake' for any one day. Here they reckon on 5.6 to be the maximum safe level. Marianne > 10.8 is high. Around 4 is supposedly o.k. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2001 Report Share Posted December 19, 2001 - <marianne2406 Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:10 PM Re: Cholesterol > In a message dated 18/12/01 23:57:37 GMT Standard Time, nwgrant > writes: > > Hi Tracey - Apparently 10.8 is quite dangerous and they were not amused that > mine had gone up that high. I got it down to 6 with diet (once initially > brought down by statins!!!) but they insisted that I went onto medication > once my athersclerosis was diagnosed. I try not to take them but will take > one if I know that I have exceeded a certain 'fat intake' for any one day. > Here they reckon on 5.6 to be the maximum safe level. Hi Marianne, Do you have it broken down as total, Hdl, Ldl and TGs? The ratios are more important than the total. ======================== Good Health & Long Life, Greg Watson, gowatson USDA database (food breakdown) http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/ PubMed (research papers) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi DWIDP (nutrient analysis) http://www.walford.com/dwdemo/dw2b63demo.exe Patch file for above http://www.walford.com/download/dwidp67u.exe KIM (omega analysis) http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2001 Report Share Posted December 20, 2001 In a message dated 19/12/01 22:34:28 GMT Standard Time, gowatson writes: Hi Greg - Unfortunately no, we are never given results unless they want us to know - I believe the HDL is the 10.8 figure - tgs were 'normal' I was told but nothing about ldl (I have got that the right way round haven't I HDL bad cholesterol?). Marianne > Hi Marianne, > > Do you have it broken down as total, Hdl, Ldl and TGs? > > The ratios are more important than the total. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2001 Report Share Posted December 21, 2001 In most states you have a right to your records. Request phostocopies of the lab reports when you see the doc. Most of them will provide it without question. If they are sticky about it, simply request a copy of your chart and be prepared to pay for it. Often if you know another doc who is a human being you can get the first doc to send it to them for free, then get a copy from doc #2. Also doc #2 can get a new copy of the report direct from the lab if you sign a release. Andy Gettingwell, marianne2406@a... wrote: > In a message dated 19/12/01 22:34:28 GMT Standard Time, > gowatson@s... writes: > > Hi Greg - Unfortunately no, we are never given results unless they want us to > know - I believe the HDL is the 10.8 figure - tgs were 'normal' I was told > but nothing about ldl (I have got that the right way round haven't I HDL bad > cholesterol?). > Marianne > > > Hi Marianne, > > > > Do you have it broken down as total, Hdl, Ldl and TGs? > > > > The ratios are more important than the total. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2001 Report Share Posted December 21, 2001 In a message dated 21/12/01 00:23:36 GMT Standard Time, AndyCutler writes: In the UK if we started to ask for these the doctor could/would strike us from his records and we would have problems finding another in the area to take us on. Marianne > In most states you have a right to your records. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2001 Report Share Posted December 21, 2001 Evening Andy, >>Request phostocopies of the lab reports when you see the doc. >>Also doc #2 can get a new copy of the report direct from the lab if >>you sign a release. Often they want to fax a copy. The result is sometimes lousy. I try make JPEG's from the faxed copies. Sometimes they are readable, sometimes, barely so. I have thought of telling the Dr's office, " I Want the Original " . Maybe that will cost a dollar more. After all, who's property is this? I pay for the reports, I think they are mine. I face this dilemma very soon. In some cases, I can get lab reports without seeing a doctor. Last time, I did in fact see the doctor because he had been so nice to allow me to run the reports thru his office. I might do it again, even though anything he tells me is not usually anything that I will do. Wayne Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2001 Report Share Posted December 21, 2001 Gettingwell, Wayne Fugitt <wayne@f...> wrote: > Evening Andy, > > >>Request phostocopies of the lab reports when you see the doc. > >>Also doc #2 can get a new copy of the report direct from the lab if > >>you sign a release. > > Often they want to fax a copy. The result is sometimes lousy. I try > make JPEG's from the faxed copies. Sometimes they are readable, sometimes, > barely so. > > I have thought of telling the Dr's office, " I Want the Original " . > Maybe that will cost a dollar more. If they are willing to fax it, they will probably photocopy it for you for free while you are there. > > After all, who's property is this? I pay for the reports, I think they are > mine. In some states your records are yours, in others not. The law and what reasonable human beings would expect are quite different in this area - we have a bunch of apallingly corrupt laws governing medicine because we let the AMA worshippers legislate what they wanted and didn't bother to check if it made sense. > > I face this dilemma very soon. > > In some cases, I can get lab reports without seeing a doctor. Last > time, I did in fact see the doctor because he had been so nice to allow me > to run the reports thru his office. > I might do it again, even though anything he tells me is not usually > anything that I will do. > > Wayne > > > Wayne > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2001 Report Share Posted December 21, 2001 - " andrewhallcutler " <AndyCutler Friday, December 21, 2001 1:35 PM Re: Cholesterol > Gettingwell, Wayne Fugitt <wayne@f...> wrote: > > Evening Andy, > > > > >>Request phostocopies of the lab reports when you see the doc. > > >>Also doc #2 can get a new copy of the report direct from the lab > if > > >>you sign a release. > > > > Often they want to fax a copy. The result is sometimes lousy. I > try > > make JPEG's from the faxed copies. Sometimes they are readable, > sometimes, > > barely so. > > > > I have thought of telling the Dr's office, " I Want the > Original " . > > Maybe that will cost a dollar more. > > If they are willing to fax it, they will probably photocopy it for you > for free while you are there. > > > > > After all, who's property is this? I pay for the reports, I think > they are > > mine. > > In some states your records are yours, in others not. The law and > what reasonable human beings would expect are quite different in this > area - we have a bunch of apallingly corrupt laws governing medicine > because we let the AMA worshippers legislate what they wanted and > didn't bother to check if it made sense. > Does anyone have a list or know a website which lists which states allow me to get copies of my medical records & which do not? Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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