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I am a fairly new member to this list and have been quietly lurking.

I am hoping that I can find some information on a natural remedy to help my

daughter. Her story is long, please bear with me. She is almost 4

years old and was born with a rare form of dwarfism complicated by severe

respiratory issues. She has malacia of all of her airways and although it

is classified as moderate-severe, she has been able to " get by " without a

tracheotomy. However, since birth, whenever she gets a cold of any kind it

always goes into a secondary pneumonia. Modern medicine wants to always

treat this with heavy duty drugs, ie; steroids. Although I understand the

need for the steroids at her more acute times, I am hoping to find a

natural/herbal way to boost her immune system as well as support her through a

bug so that we do not have to go the steroid route. I know I don't have to

convince anyone here that the side effects of steroids on a little one are

pretty severe. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

 

Thank you,

 

 

 

Mary Beth

 

(near Seattle)

 

 

 

 

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I am not familiar with this disease, but have asthma. I read of some

suppliments that help with that. Fish oil, for one thing, has a long term

bronchial dialating effect. Have had fewer problems since I started taking

that for my cancer. If you want me to look up other (asthma) things from

the Life Extention book, let me know.

 

Janet, new on list, NW of Seattle

 

Sun, 9 Dec 2001 9:48:1 -0800

" Mary Beth Seaman " <mbnandrew

respiratory question

 

I am a fairly new member to this list and have been quietly lurking.

I am hoping that I can find some information on a natural remedy to help my

daughter. Her story is long, please bear with me. She is almost 4

years old and was born with a rare form of dwarfism complicated by severe

respiratory issues. She has malacia of all of her airways and although it

is classified as moderate-severe, she has been able to " get by " without a

tracheotomy. However, since birth, whenever she gets a cold of any kind it

always goes into a secondary pneumonia. Modern medicine wants to always

treat this with heavy duty drugs, ie; steroids. Although I understand the

need for the steroids at her more acute times, I am hoping to find a

natural/herbal way to boost her immune system as well as support her through

a

bug so that we do not have to go the steroid route. I know I don't have to

convince anyone here that the side effects of steroids on a little one are

pretty severe. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

 

Thank you,

 

 

 

Mary Beth

 

(near Seattle)

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" Janet C. " wrote:

 

> I am not familiar with this disease, but have asthma. I read of some

> suppliments that help with that. Fish oil, for one thing, has a long term

> bronchial dialating effect. Have had fewer problems since I started taking

> that for my cancer. If you want me to look up other (asthma) things from

> the Life Extention book, let me know.

 

*nodding in agreement* Janet, what does your book say about ephedra (or

ephedrine)? Mary, your daughter could try Ma Huang tea. It is often sold as

" dieter's tea " (but you *do* need to check the labels, because most of the time

" dieter's tea " is a laxative tea and not ephedra tea). Chinese people give

their newborns ma huang tea in preparation for a long life. And ephedrine is

what is put into those bronchial aspirators that asthmatics use. An adult can

ingest up to 90 mg of ephedrine alkaloids a day with no ill effects; not sure of

the ephedra equivalent.

 

Mindy

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Dear Mary Beth,

If your daughter has been using glucocorticoid steroids, they may

be necessary, but be advised that they do not enhance the immune

system but rather severely inhibit it.

A nutrient that is crucial for the immune system is copper. To

see how to get adequate amounts from food, see;

http://members.tripod.com/~charles_W/copper3.html I have no idea

what affect copper might have on your daughter's genetic problem

though.

Sincerely, Charles Weber

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Mullein herb is very good for lung problems

In a message dated 01/13/12 9:48:38 PM, jscole writes:

 

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bug so that we do not have to go the steroid route. I know I don't have to

convince anyone here that the side effects of steroids on a little one are

pretty severe. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

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In a message dated 12/15/2001 4:22:09 PM Pacific Standard Time,

joguest writes:

 

 

>

> Isn't ephedra linked to liver damage? Numerous herbal references

> list it as such.

 

I never heard that one. I have heard Ephedra is dangerous though and can be

addictive; some people take it to get high. However, I don't think that in

small doses it is harmful. As the old quote goes " The dose makes the

poison " ( Or however it goes *G* ). Ephedrine is made with ephedra, and if

the herb was indeed toxic, the drug wouldn't have it in it. All depends on

the dosage...but then again, NEVER take diet pills with ephedra in them.

 

Erin

 

 

 

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Hi Gals,

Isn't ephedra linked to liver damage? Numerous herbal references

list it as such.

Mindy Behymer <mindy@l...> wrote:

> " Janet C. " wrote:

>

> > I am not familiar with this disease, but have asthma. I read of

some

> > suppliments that help with that. Fish oil, for one thing, has a

long term

> > bronchial dialating effect. Have had fewer problems since I

started taking

> > that for my cancer. If you want me to look up other (asthma)

things from

> > the Life Extention book, let me know.

>

> *nodding in agreement* Janet, what does your book say about

ephedra (or

> ephedrine)? Mary, your daughter could try Ma Huang tea. It is

often sold as

> " dieter's tea " (but you *do* need to check the labels, because most

of the time

> " dieter's tea " is a laxative tea and not ephedra tea). Chinese

people give

> their newborns ma huang tea in preparation for a long life. And

ephedrine is

> what is put into those bronchial aspirators that asthmatics use.

An adult can

> ingest up to 90 mg of ephedrine alkaloids a day with no ill

effects; not sure of

> the ephedra equivalent.

>

> Mindy

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Erin,

I shall try and locate the information for you regarding this herb.

I do know that many diet and allergy drugs carry the substance (at

least in the U.S.) Not sure where you're located at the moment.:-)

Ephedra and many other over the counter drugs are linked to liver

damage, including Tylenol and Advil. My sister's liver was full of

cancer before she died and she ate Advil like candy for frequent

headaches!

Ephedra goes by many different names. Guarana is one of those used

in diet pills. It is linked to high blood pressure and other major

illnesses.

I just know that I wouldn't risk giving it to my child. There are

other herbs much more effective and less dangerous than ephedra!

Regards, JoAnn

 

JoAnn Guest

joguest

Friendsforhealthnaturally

http://canceranswer.homestead.com/Melanoma.html

 

 

ErinGJ80@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 12/15/2001 4:22:09 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> joguest@m... writes:

>

>

> >

> > Isn't ephedra linked to liver damage? Numerous herbal

references

> > list it as such.

>

> I never heard that one. I have heard Ephedra is dangerous though

and can be

> addictive; some people take it to get high. However, I don't think

that in

> small doses it is harmful. As the old quote goes " The dose makes

the

> poison " ( Or however it goes *G* ). Ephedrine is made with

ephedra, and if

> the herb was indeed toxic, the drug wouldn't have it in it. All

depends on

> the dosage...but then again, NEVER take diet pills with ephedra in

them.

>

> Erin

>

>

>

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My mother pops Advils like crazy too. She should be their spokesperson.

When I had a toothache, she told me advil would help, and the same with an

ear ache. Geez! There's no way I could get her off the stuff, unfortunitely.

Hopefully it doesnt end up hurting her liver.

 

Erin

 

 

 

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Hi Gals,

There are quite a few alternative remedies for asthma. My previous

post lists some little-known facts on ways one can deal with it

naturally. Wishing your daughter a fast recovery, Mary Beth.

 

 

Regards, JoAnn

 

JoAnn Guest

joguest

Friendsforhealthnaturally

http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/Allergies.html

 

" Janet C. " <jscole@p...> wrote:

> I am not familiar with this disease, but have asthma. I read of

some

> suppliments that help with that. Fish oil, for one thing, has a

long term

> bronchial dialating effect. Have had fewer problems since I

started taking

> that for my cancer. If you want me to look up other (asthma)

things from

> the Life Extention book, let me know.

>

> Janet, new on list, NW of Seattle

>

> Sun, 9 Dec 2001 9:48:1 -0800

> " Mary Beth Seaman " <mbnandrew@e...>

> respiratory question

>

> I am a fairly new member to this list and have been quietly lurking.

> I am hoping that I can find some information on a natural remedy to

help my

> daughter. Her story is long, please bear with me. She is almost 4

> years old and was born with a rare form of dwarfism complicated by

severe

> respiratory issues. She has malacia of all of her airways and

although it

> is classified as moderate-severe, she has been able to " get by "

without a

> tracheotomy. However, since birth, whenever she gets a cold of any

kind it

> always goes into a secondary pneumonia. Modern medicine wants to

always

> treat this with heavy duty drugs, ie; steroids. Although I

understand the

> need for the steroids at her more acute times, I am hoping to find a

> natural/herbal way to boost her immune system as well as support

her through

> a

> bug so that we do not have to go the steroid route. I know I don't

have to

> convince anyone here that the side effects of steroids on a little

one are

> pretty severe. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

>

>

>

> Thank you,

>

>

>

> Mary Beth

>

> (near Seattle)

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Gettingwell, " mrsjoguest " <joguest@m...> wrote:

> Erin,

> I shall try and locate the information for you regarding this

herb.

> I do know that many diet and allergy drugs carry the substance (at

> least in the U.S.) Not sure where you're located at the moment.:-)

> Ephedra and many other over the counter drugs are linked to liver

> damage, including Tylenol and Advil.

 

Ephedra has many risks, but this isn't one of them. Tylenol and advil

increase oxidative stress on the liver, ephedrine does not.

 

>My sister's liver was full of

> cancer before she died and she ate Advil like candy for frequent

> headaches!

> Ephedra goes by many different names. Guarana is one of those

used

> in diet pills. It is linked to high blood pressure and other major

> illnesses.

> I just know that I wouldn't risk giving it to my child. There are

> other herbs much more effective and less dangerous than ephedra!

 

Name one. Expect me to point out it's shortcomings, since there

aren't any.

 

> Regards, JoAnn

>

> JoAnn Guest

> joguest@m...

> Friendsforhealthnaturally

> http://canceranswer.homestead.com/Melanoma.html

>

>

> ErinGJ80@a... wrote:

> > In a message dated 12/15/2001 4:22:09 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> > joguest@m... writes:

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Isn't ephedra linked to liver damage? Numerous herbal

> references

> > > list it as such.

> >

> > I never heard that one. I have heard Ephedra is dangerous though

> and can be

> > addictive; some people take it to get high. However, I don't think

> that in

> > small doses it is harmful. As the old quote goes " The dose makes

> the

> > poison " ( Or however it goes *G* ). Ephedrine is made with

> ephedra, and if

> > the herb was indeed toxic, the drug wouldn't have it in it. All

> depends on

> > the dosage...but then again, NEVER take diet pills with ephedra in

> them.

> >

> > Erin

> >

> >

> >

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Essential oils of Peppermint and Wintergreen are good for congestion

problems. Be careful as they may burn the skin, and don't get them near your

eyes.

 

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Greetings Andy,

Perhaps someone should notify the FDA. According to this article

and numerous others, Government agencies have listed Ephedra as

dangerous! *S*

 

 

" This herb(epedra, ma huang, guarana)is commonly used for weight

control purposes and to

provide an energy boost. In the past it was used as a decongestant

for colds, asthma, and hay fever. "

 

 

" The FDA considers it an herb of " UNDEFINED SAFETY " and has received

over 400 REPORTS of ADVERSE REACTIONS, including " LIVER FAILURE " ,

elevated blood pressure, palpitations and strokes! It has been

attributed to at least recent 15 DEATHS! "

 

 

Taken from " Herbal Cures for Common Ailments " by Jim O'Brien.

Medical Editor of " Your Health " .

If in doubt, check it out... :-)

 

Cheers, JoAnn

 

JoAnn Guest

joguest

Friendsforhealthnaturally

http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/Allergies.html

 

" andrewhallcutler " <AndyCutler@a...> wrote:

> Gettingwell, " mrsjoguest " <joguest@m...> wrote:

> > Erin,

> > I shall try and locate the information for you regarding this

> herb.

> > I do know that many diet and allergy drugs carry the substance

(at

> > least in the U.S.) Not sure where you're located at the moment.:-

)

> > Ephedra and many other over the counter drugs are linked to liver

> > damage, including Tylenol and Advil.

>

> Ephedra has many risks, but this isn't one of them. Tylenol and

advil

> increase oxidative stress on the liver, ephedrine does not.

>

> >My sister's liver was full of

> > cancer before she died and she ate Advil like candy for frequent

> > headaches!

> > Ephedra goes by many different names. Guarana is one of those

> used

> > in diet pills. It is linked to high blood pressure and other

major

> > illnesses.

> > I just know that I wouldn't risk giving it to my child. There

are

> > other herbs much more effective and less dangerous than ephedra!

>

> Name one. Expect me to point out it's shortcomings, since there

> aren't any.

>

> > Regards, JoAnn

> >

> > JoAnn Guest

> > joguest@m...

> > Friendsforhealthnaturally

> > http://canceranswer.homestead.com/Melanoma.html

> >

> >

> > ErinGJ80@a... wrote:

> > > In a message dated 12/15/2001 4:22:09 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> > > joguest@m... writes:

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Isn't ephedra linked to liver damage? Numerous herbal

> > references

> > > > list it as such.

> > >

> > > I never heard that one. I have heard Ephedra is dangerous

though

> > and can be

> > > addictive; some people take it to get high. However, I don't

think

> > that in

> > > small doses it is harmful. As the old quote goes " The dose

makes

> > the

> > > poison " ( Or however it goes *G* ). Ephedrine is made with

> > ephedra, and if

> > > the herb was indeed toxic, the drug wouldn't have it in it. All

> > depends on

> > > the dosage...but then again, NEVER take diet pills with ephedra

in

> > them.

> > >

> > > Erin

> > >

> > >

> > >

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mrsjoguest wrote:

 

> Greetings Andy,

> Perhaps someone should notify the FDA. According to this article

> and numerous others, Government agencies have listed Ephedra as

> dangerous! *S*

 

> " The FDA considers it an herb of " UNDEFINED SAFETY " and has received

> over 400 REPORTS of ADVERSE REACTIONS, including " LIVER FAILURE " ,

> elevated blood pressure, palpitations and strokes! It has been

> attributed to at least recent 15 DEATHS! "

 

I would like to know where I can obtain a list/summary of these 400 reports,

in addition to how much ephedra was ingested, and where I can find reports of

adverse reactions to other medications/supplements too! Anyone know?

 

Mindy

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I am aware of what the FDA thinks. They also think you should neither

be allowed to take vitamins on your own nor be permitted to have the

kinds of discussions we have on this list. I don't consider them to

be a credible source of any information other than the dangers of Rx

drugs, and they will usually err on the side of saying those are safe

when they aren't.

 

Ephedra is an adrenergic stimulant. Like any drug, supplement, or

anything else you can help yourself with, if you use it randomly or

abusively enough you can hurt yourself.

 

The death toll from aspirin is much higher. Caffeine is probably up

there too. And table salt kills a LOT more people than ephedra ever

will.

 

Andy

 

 

 

Gettingwell, Mindy Behymer <mindy@l...> wrote:

> mrsjoguest wrote:

>

> > Greetings Andy,

> > Perhaps someone should notify the FDA. According to this

article

> > and numerous others, Government agencies have listed Ephedra as

> > dangerous! *S*

>

> > " The FDA considers it an herb of " UNDEFINED SAFETY " and has

received

> > over 400 REPORTS of ADVERSE REACTIONS, including " LIVER FAILURE " ,

> > elevated blood pressure, palpitations and strokes! It has been

> > attributed to at least recent 15 DEATHS! "

>

> I would like to know where I can obtain a list/summary of these 400

reports,

> in addition to how much ephedra was ingested, and where I can find

reports of

> adverse reactions to other medications/supplements too! Anyone

know?

>

> Mindy

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