Guest guest Posted December 9, 2001 Report Share Posted December 9, 2001 I believe that magnesium oxide is relatively poorly absorbed. Magnesium citrate or ornate are much better forms. Rob ------------------------- > You will find that magnesium oxide has the great levels of > magnesium (60%)...unlike various other forms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2001 Report Share Posted December 9, 2001 The oxide form is better for heart function and circulation according to Shari Lieberman,Ph.d. the reason being that often low oxygen levels are also implicated along with the other problems involved. Citrate is excellent for Fibro!! Regards, JoAnn JoAnn Guest joguest Friendsforhealthnaturally http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/Magnesium.html " Rob Bartlett " <rob.bartlett@s...> wrote: > I believe that magnesium oxide is relatively poorly absorbed. Magnesium > citrate or ornate are much better forms. > > Rob > ------------------------- > > You will find that magnesium oxide has the great levels of > > magnesium (60%)...unlike various other forms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2001 Report Share Posted December 9, 2001 In a message dated 9/12/01 00:42:06 GMT Standard Time, rob.bartlett writes: I have the oxide now and will stick with that for the time being - thanks. Marianne > I believe that magnesium oxide is relatively poorly absorbed. Magnesium > citrate or ornate are much better forms. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2001 Report Share Posted December 9, 2001 <<The oxide form [of magnesium] is better for heart function and circulation according to Shari Lieberman,Ph.d. the reason being that often low oxygen levels are also implicated...>> 1. Couldn't one just breath more (ex. exercise, deep breathing exercises...) to get more oxygen into one's lungs and blood? 2. If the oxide form doesn't get absorbed through the small intestine effectively, it can't benefit the heart and circulatory system. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2001 Report Share Posted December 9, 2001 In a message dated 9/12/01 04:24:21 GMT Standard Time, rob.bartlett writes: Rob > 1. Couldn't one just breath more (ex. exercise, deep breathing exercises...) > to get more oxygen into one's lungs and blood? It would depend on how much exercise is allowed - for me, walking & swimming are the only ones and I do not swim - I cannot walk fast enough to get the oxygen pumping fast enough and therefore need assistance. > > 2. If the oxide form doesn't get absorbed through the small intestine > effectively, it can't benefit the heart and circulatory system. > What would prevent it from being absorbed that would not prevent any other form in the same way. Marianne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2001 Report Share Posted December 9, 2001 I woulg sugest those deep breathing exercises but there air is so foul outside, in most places, you would have to be indoors In a message dated 01/9/12 5:32:01 AM, marianne2406 writes: << Rob > 1. Couldn't one just breath more (ex. exercise, deep breathing exercises...) > to get more oxygen into one's lungs and blood? >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2001 Report Share Posted December 9, 2001 In a message dated 9/12/01 12:36:39 GMT Standard Time, dfnewman writes: Unfortunately one of my symptoms is breathlessness and deep breathing is difficult, I do try to walk every day for a minimum of 30 minutes and that is helping - once I have been on my 'alternatives' for a short while I am sure that I will be able to build up to a faster walk that will get the heart pumping. > I woulg sugest those deep breathing exercises but there air is so foul > outside, in most places, you would have to be indoors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2001 Report Share Posted December 9, 2001 I bought a rebounder at WalMart ( a small trampoline 20.00) They have expensive ones but this helps me .Some days I can only go on it for 5 miutes I dont jump up and down I walk in place and try to get my arms going.I have a problem wiht lymphatic drainage and shortness of breath I would like to do this 15 minutes at least 4 times a week eventually Donna In a message dated 01/9/12 8:44:31 AM, marianne2406 writes: << tes: Unfortunately one of my symptoms is breathlessness and deep breathing is difficult, I do >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2001 Report Share Posted December 9, 2001 In a message dated 9/12/01 12:49:09 GMT Standard Time, dfnewman writes: perhaps I will have to get one next year when I visit California for my vacation - they are very expensive here. > I bought a rebounder at WalMart ( a small trampoline 20.00) They have > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2001 Report Share Posted December 9, 2001 In a message dated 9/12/01 18:10:21 GMT Standard Time, rob.bartlett writes: I have tried to keep this short but I am most impressed with this information - can I ask what sort of 'clinic' you work in as you know a great deal? Marianne > The extra oxygen you will gain from taking magnesium oxide is insignificant. > Oxygen makes up 20% of the atmosphere. Its free stuff! All you have to do > is breath! Well I do that without thinking anyway but it does not help that much. > Taking oxides in supplements when oxygen is all around us is like selling > refrigerators to the Eskimos! If I need assistance to get me to optimum health then that is the way I have got to go. > > <<What would prevent [magnesium oxide] from being absorbed that would not > prevent any other form in the same way.>> > > Here is a wonderful exerpt from the Protein Power LifePlan (2001): > > I am now totally confused as to what I should be taking and not, one person says one thing and you say something totally different. (Thanks for the reminder of my age by the way, I do remember MofM) > > If you choose to take elemental magnesium, such as magnesium oxide, you'll > want one that provides a dose of 300 to 400 mg of elemental magnesium in a > Mine is 500 mg + B6 x 5 mg but it says Magnesium Oxide, Magensium Malate & Magnesium Citrate - is that good? > > Chelated magnesium products offer another option. > > At least they would be working 2 fold for me if that happened, I have a problem of being the other way and have been for years. > > When you purchase a magnesium chelate, look for the words citrate, malate, > or aspartate, all of which we've found work well with magnesium. Its really > here that the labels can become confusing, because some manufacturers state > on the label that the product contains 1,000 mg or more of, for instance, > magnesium malate. When you pick up that bottle, you think, Wow! 1,000 mg! > Why, I'd only have to take half a tablet or capsule to get 500 mg! But > that's not usually the case. > As above re citrate etc and it says magnesium 167% RDI and I take 1 capsule per day in the evening. > > Magnesium supplementation (by mouth) takes time to show benefit, I now am living in hope > > Restoring your levels to that of your Paleolithic ancestors will also take > you a step closer to the ancient diet you were designed to eat and the > wellness you were born to enjoy! " > > source: Protein Power LifePlan, p222-224 > > Another exerpt to follow, > Rob > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2001 Report Share Posted December 9, 2001 <<...I cannot walk fast enough to get the oxygen pumping fast enough and therefore need assistance [in the form of magnesium oxide]...>> The extra oxygen you will gain from taking magnesium oxide is insignificant. Oxygen makes up 20% of the atmosphere. Its free stuff! All you have to do is breath! Taking oxides in supplements when oxygen is all around us is like selling refrigerators to the Eskimos! <<What would prevent [magnesium oxide] from being absorbed that would not prevent any other form in the same way.>> Here is a wonderful exerpt from the Protein Power LifePlan (2001): " The body absorbs elemental minerals (like that from magnesium oxide) - ions - through tiny channels called single-ion channels in the intestinal cell membranes; the name itself describes the problem with taking this mineral form. The bottleneck of the single-ion channel limits the amount of mineral ions that can pass into the cell, setting the stage for competition between ions for admittance. (Recall that we mentioned that chomping calcium tablets not balanced with magnesium can lead to magnesium deficiency? If there's a lot more calcium around in the stomach and intestine than there is magnesium, more of the calcium will make it through the channels). The upside of taking elemental minerals is, of course, they're cheap; the downside is they're the least absorbable form. Granted, they will work for you if you take a bigger dose to make up for the low-absorption factor, but with magnesium, taking the higher dose needed to overcome this factor commonly causes diarrhea (the Milk of Magnesia effect that those of you who grew up like us in the 1950s will surely remember!). And if you've got to take more of a cheaper form to get the desired effect, it may not be as cost effective as it looks at first blush. If you choose to take elemental magnesium, such as magnesium oxide, you'll want one that provides a dose of 300 to 400 mg of elemental magnesium in a reasonable number of capsules. The labels of elemental magnesium are pretty straightforward - that is, if it says a dose provides 400 mg of elemental magnesium, that's what's in it. Chelated magnesium products offer another option. They're a little more expensive but much more absorbable and a bit less likely to stimulate diarrhea, so you may actually get to keep more of what you pay for. With our patients in the clinic we've had better luck using these forms of magnesium for supplementation - at least our patients seem to tolerate them better. What are they? The term chelate derives from the Greek word meaning " claw " . In the process of chelation, amino acids, the subunits of protein, grab - in clawlike fashion -onto mineral ions, joining their structures together to form a cage around the mineral. Wrapped in this protein cage, the mineral ion can bypass the ion channel by masquerading as protein and be absorbed by the intestine as such. Once inside, the body disassembles the cage of amino acids, liberating the mineral. The danger of using a chelate, however, lies in the fact that all chelating agents don't work equally well with every mineral. While some of them work like a charm, others can fall apart too soon or resist disassembly at the appropriate time to ensure adequate absorption. When you purchase a magnesium chelate, look for the words citrate, malate, or aspartate, all of which we've found work well with magnesium. Its really here that the labels can become confusing, because some manufacturers state on the label that the product contains 1,000 mg or more of, for instance, magnesium malate. When you pick up that bottle, you think, Wow! 1,000 mg! Why, I'd only have to take half a tablet or capsule to get 500 mg! But that's not usually the case. Quite often, the product label lists the total weight of the mineral plus the chelating agent, of which there is substantially more. And its the magnesium you're after, not the malate. But usually somewhere on the label, often on the back side, you'll find a section of text that will say something on the order of " This product provides 75% (or 90% or 130% or some percentage) of the RDI for magnesium. " And its that percentage of the label that actually tells you how much magnesium is there. Since the RDI for magnesium is 360 mg, if a product provides 100% of the RDI, it provides 360 mg of magnesium. If, on the other hand, it provides only 50% of the RDI per capsule, then each dose contains only 180 mg of actual magnesium, regardless of what the milligrams on the front of the packages say. We recommend that our patients take at least 300 to 400 mg of extra actual magnesium (usually in the citrate, malate, or asparate chelate) each evening if they're in apparent good health, with adequate or lowish but normal intracellular levels. In those people what have already developed any of the problems related to insulin resistance, we bump the daily dose up to 400 to 600 mg (if the patient can tolerate the dose without developing diarrhea and if they have no medical reason that would prevent their safely taking the mineral). Magnesium supplementation (by mouth) takes time to show benefit, but sometimes the results can be dramatic and sometimes in a matter of just a few weeks. Patients who have suffered for years with chronic headaches describe welcome relief; at long last intractably elevated blood pressure start to decline; fluid retention lessens; tight breathing eases; sleep improves; constipation resolves. So much benefit form one simple mineral. No wonder we - and our patients- call magnesium the miracle nutrient! Restoring your levels to that of your Paleolithic ancestors will also take you a step closer to the ancient diet you were designed to eat and the wellness you were born to enjoy! " source: Protein Power LifePlan, p222-224 Another exerpt to follow, Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2001 Report Share Posted December 9, 2001 <<...I am most impressed with this information - can I ask what sort of 'clinic' you work in as you know a great deal?>> Marianne, I don't work in a clinic. The excerpt is taken from a book that Mary and Dan Eades wrote last year. They are medical doctors who run their own clinic specializing in " The Diseases of Civilization " (otherwise know as 'syndrome X' and 'insulin resistance syndrome'); the thing that most people over 40 in the 'developed' world have, to some degree. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2001 Report Share Posted December 10, 2001 Rob, Greetings! Good question. However...I take it you haven't heard the latest on the oxygen levels on our lovely planet. <grin> I've read from many and varied sources that oxygen levels are down about half of what they were at the turn of the last century! I have found magnesium helps with elevating proper oxygen levels. That is my experience. :-) Prolonged exercise in a already over-polluted environment has been proven to contribute to any problems we might already have. It is linked to an increase in free-radicals which causes further damage and increases cancer risks!! Tests have shown that long-distance runners (marathons,etc) frequently experience serious breathing problems ending in their demise. What if? What if it doesn't get absorbed properly. Well I'm happy to tell you that in my case it did although I was very ill. Everyone has to pick and choose to find out what works for them. I chose to try magnesium oxide. I had nothing to lose...as I was very sick. *S* Magnesium has been very beneficial to me in this area. You should try it!! :-) Regards, JoAnn JoAnn Guest joguest Friendsforhealthnaturally http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/FreeRadicals.html " Rob Bartlett " <rob.bartlett@s...> wrote: > <<The oxide form [of magnesium] is better for heart function and circulation > according to Shari Lieberman,Ph.d. the reason being that often low > oxygen levels are also implicated...>> > > 1. Couldn't one just breath more (ex. exercise, deep breathing exercises...) > to get more oxygen into one's lungs and blood? > > 2. If the oxide form doesn't get absorbed through the small intestine > effectively, it can't benefit the heart and circulatory system. > > Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2001 Report Share Posted December 10, 2001 <<I've read from many and varied sources that oxygen levels are down about half of what they were at the turn of the last century!>> I doubt it. Carbon dioxide (CO2) levels are up somewhat, but oxygen levels are not down to any appreciable extent. <<Prolonged exercise in a already over-polluted environment has been proven to contribute to any problems we might already have.>> So exercise, or go for brisk walks, or whatever in an underpolluted environment. Where do you live anyway? Chernobyl? <<It is linked to an increase in free-radicals which causes further damage and increases cancer risks!!>> Oxygen in our blood is a free radical! Antioxidants such as selenium and vitamin E help protect cell membranes from the damage of oxidation! " What is oxidation? There are several definitions but we can use a very common one, whenever oxygen combines with something, it oxidizes. Oxygen is a very poisonous substance. Throughout most of the history of life on Earth there was no oxygen. Organisms had to develop very specific mechanisms of dealing with high levels of oxygen before there could ever be life with oxygen. So we evolved very quickly, as plants arose and developed a very easy means of acquiring energy, they could just lay back and catch rays, and they dealt with that oxygen with the carbon dioxide by spitting it out, they didn't want it around. So the oxygen in the atmosphere increased. All the other organisms then had to cope with that toxic oxygen. Many perished if they didn't have ways of dealing with it. One of the earliest ways of dealing with all that oxygen was for the cells to huddle together, so that at least the interior cells wouldn't be exposed to as much. So, multi-celled organisms arose after oxygen did. Of course, with that came the need for cellular communication. " source: www.dfhi.com/interviews/rosedale.html <<Magnesium has been very beneficial to me in this area. You should try it!! :-) >> I have for years. I prefer to pay for a supplement that I'm going to absorb into my body. " A lesser known fact is that insulin also stores magnesium. We mentioned it's role in vitamin C, it stores all sorts of nutrients. But what happens if your cells become resistant to insulin? First of all you can't store magnesium so you lose it, that's one effect, you lose it out the urine. What is one of magnesium's major roles? To relax muscles. Intracellular magnesium relaxes muscles. What happens when you can't store magnesium because the cell is resistant? You lose magnesium and your blood vessels constrict, what does that do? Increases blood pressure, and reduces energy since intracellular magnesium is required for all energy producing reactions that take place in the cell. But most importantly, magnesium is also necessary for the action of insulin. It is also necessary for the manufacture of insulin. So then you raise your insulin, you lose magnesium, and the cells become even more insulin resistant. Blood vessels constrict, glucose and insulin can't get to the tissues, which makes them more insulin resistant, so the insulin levels go up and you lose more magnesium. This is the vicious cycle that goes on from before you were born. " source: www.dfhi.com/interviews/rosedale.html Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2001 Report Share Posted December 10, 2001 Rob, This is America!! The Case of The Missing Nutrients What's more, the nutrient content of foods, especially regarding minerals, fluctuates widely, depending on growing conditions. Our soil is depleted of selenium and often has only marginal levels of zinc. magnesium, calcium and other trace minerals. Evidence shows that the food tables that supposedly tell us the nutrient content of the foods we eat vastly overstate nutritional value. Without mineral-rich soils, it is impossible for fruits and vegetables to contain a rich supply of nutrients! Fruits and vegetables begin to lose nutrients from the moment they are picked! Green vegetables lose almost all their vitamin C after a few days of being stored at room temperature! This page was last updated on: May 27, 2001 Perhaps one of the greatest injustices inflicted upon foods occurs during the milling of grains. When wheat is processed into white flour, up to 40% of the Vitamin C, from 65 to 85% of the B vitamins, 59% of the magnesium and 72% of the zinc are lost! Also lost are significant amounts of other vitamins, proteins, and fiber. The food industry puts back a few cents worth of iron, calcium, niacin, thiamin and riboflavin and calls it " enriched " !! As might be expected, our meats, which come from animals raised on some of the same nutrient-depleted foods that are available to us, are also lower in vitamins and minerals than indicated in food tables. The nutrient levels in our factory-farm livestock, which are fed artificial diets, also differ from those of animals that enjoy a more natural existence! And, of course, cooking robs meat of even more nutrients---up to half of its thiamin, B6, and pantothenic acid. Today, there are an unprecedented number of chemicals all around us--- in our food, water, and the very air we breathe! The Environmental Protection Agency has estimated that 60,000 chemicals have been buried or dumped throughout the United States and are now penetrating our water supply! Automobiles and industry spew millions of pounds of pollutants into the atmosphere each year. Our food has become a chemical feast that is sprayed with pesticides, injected with hormones, fed with antibiotics, and adulterated with over 3,000 chemicals in the form of artificial colors, flavors, textures, and preservatives! Living and working with smokers can be equivalent to smoking several cigarettes a day. Many of the chemicals now in or environment have been proven to pose hazards to human health! Others may be potentially hazardous. Fortunately, it has been found that certain vitamins and minerals are productive against some of these toxic substances. For example, vitamin C and E have been shown to be protective against nitrosamine, a carcinogen your body forms from the nitrates and nitrites found in processed meats such as hotdogs, bacon, ham, and bologna. These same carcinogens form from pollutants in the air and in cigarette smoke. In addition to being cancer-causing agents, toxic chemicals have become a prime suspect in male infertility. Sperm counts all over the world are half what they were in the late 1930's, and of low quality. But sperm counts of men who eat Organically Grown foods are twice as high as average. Vitamin C and Glutathione have been shown to increase the percentage of normal sperm, sperm mobility and sperm viability. Reduce the chemicals in your foods and eat organically. Dozens of toxins in the form of chemical cancer stimulants found in pesticides, unfiltered water, and nonorganic processed foods accumulate in the body's fatty tissues. These play a part in cancer, particularly in hormone-sensitive tissues. Whether the chemicals deplete nutrients or increase your requirements, it is wise to SUPERFORTIFY appropriately in order to obtain the necessary antioxidants to help your body withstand these CHEMICAL INSULTS!! Xenoestrogens are " foreign " estrogens that are found in pesticides, herbicides, plastics, salad dressings, margarines, etc. Due to these harmful estrogens many women are producing 50% of the progesterone that their mothers did! They contribute to estrogen dominance, damage the developing follicles of the fetus and cause breast cancer, osteoporosis and infertility! Xenoestrogens, like DDT and dioxin, can bond with estrogen receptors and never leave your body!! Regards,JoAnn - In Gettingwell, " Rob Bartlett " <rob.bartlett@s...> wrote: > <<I've read from many and varied sources that oxygen levels are down > about half of what they were at the turn of the last century!>> > > I doubt it. Carbon dioxide (CO2) levels are up somewhat, but oxygen levels > are not down to any appreciable extent. > > <<Prolonged exercise in a already over-polluted environment has been > proven to contribute to any problems we might already have.>> > > So exercise, or go for brisk walks, or whatever in an underpolluted > environment. Where do you live anyway? Chernobyl? > > <<It is linked to an increase in free-radicals which causes further damage > and increases cancer risks!!>> > > Oxygen in our blood is a free radical! Antioxidants such as selenium and > vitamin E help protect cell membranes from the damage of oxidation! > > " What is oxidation? There are several definitions but we can use a very > common one, whenever oxygen combines with something, it oxidizes. Oxygen is > a very poisonous substance. Throughout most of the history of life on Earth > there was no oxygen. Organisms had to develop very specific mechanisms of > dealing with high levels of oxygen before there could ever be life with > oxygen. So we evolved very quickly, as plants arose and developed a very > easy means of acquiring energy, they could just lay back and catch rays, and > they dealt with that oxygen with the carbon dioxide by spitting it out, they > didn't want it around. So the oxygen in the atmosphere increased. All the > other organisms then had to cope with that toxic oxygen. Many perished if > they didn't have ways of dealing with it. One of the earliest ways of > dealing with all that oxygen was for the cells to huddle together, so that > at least the interior cells wouldn't be exposed to as much. So, multi-celled > organisms arose after oxygen did. Of course, with that came the need for > cellular communication. " > source: www.dfhi.com/interviews/rosedale.html > > <<Magnesium has been very beneficial to me in this area. You should try it!! > :-) >> > > I have for years. I prefer to pay for a supplement that I'm going to absorb > into my body. > > " A lesser known fact is that insulin also stores magnesium. We mentioned > it's role in vitamin C, it stores all sorts of nutrients. But what happens > if your cells become resistant to insulin? First of all you can't store > magnesium so you lose it, that's one effect, you lose it out the urine. What > is one of magnesium's major roles? To relax muscles. Intracellular magnesium > relaxes muscles. What happens when you can't store magnesium because the > cell is resistant? You lose magnesium and your blood vessels constrict, what > does that do? Increases blood pressure, and reduces energy since > intracellular magnesium is required for all energy producing reactions that > take place in the cell. But most importantly, magnesium is also necessary > for the action of insulin. It is also necessary for the manufacture of > insulin. So then you raise your insulin, you lose magnesium, and the cells > become even more insulin resistant. Blood vessels constrict, glucose and > insulin can't get to the tissues, which makes them more insulin resistant, > so the insulin levels go up and you lose more magnesium. This is the vicious > cycle that goes on from before you were born. " > source: www.dfhi.com/interviews/rosedale.html > > Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2001 Report Share Posted December 10, 2001 In a message dated 10/12/01 03:44:54 GMT Standard Time, joguest writes: > Hi! You will find that these symptoms will radically decrease as > time goes on. In the meantime I recommend taking it easy. Be careful > not to overexert yourself. The supplements help heart tissue > revitalize itself, esp.CO-Q10. I have no option but to take it easy as I get very breathless if I try to do too much - some days not very much at all. > If you are experiencing irregular heartbeats as I was, Not that I am aware of but then the dr's here do not tell you anything about your condition other than what they want you to know. i.e. 1 chocolate and you are dead was what my consultant told me 6 months ago. > Dairy is a major factor in cholesterol levels you know. That is one > good reason to change to organic diary. Are the Bovine growth > hormones/antibiotics prevalent in the UK? I try to avoid having too much dairy - I do have milk in my barley cup (an instant cereal drink, caffeine free, that takes the place of coffee) and occasionally cheese. I have now gone onto organic butter and olive oil so that should be better for me. Bovine gh/a are prevalent here unfortunately and breast/prostrate cancer high - I have put my husband on a regime of anti prostrate cancer supplements to try and ward it off. > > Is your area densely populated? We are right outside the Detroit > area. According to some internet sites, the air quality is not good > here. Oxygen levels quite depleted as they are outside municipal > areas! Unfortunately yes - we live just 5 minutes from Heathrow Airport (for my husbands work) - so high pollution area. > I would take it slow until you are able to regain your health and > energy levels! I have no real choice, just take each day as it comes - we would dearly love to emigrate to Australia where our sons lives but that can take years apparently because 'parents' get the lowest priority and they only allow 500 in per year from all countries. I think that having found the groups on the internet, I have far more chance of survival than I thought I had 6 months ago - all I could see ahead of me was pumping these dreadful drugs into my body until it finally gave up. I did tell the consultant in the recovery room (angiogram to determine problem) that I would prefer to go the 'alternate' route. He said when it was stabilised but then I have never seen him again and the consultant that I now have to see is of the old school and not interested in alternative at all. WL & L Marianne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2001 Report Share Posted December 10, 2001 Marianne, Hi! You will find that these symptoms will radically decrease as time goes on. In the meantime I recommend taking it easy. Be careful not to overexert yourself. The supplements help heart tissue revitalize itself, esp.CO-Q10. If you are experiencing irregular heartbeats as I was, it would be very difficult to move around or do much of anything, let alone exercise. I'm sure that you will experience the benefits soon. Dairy is a major factor in cholesterol levels you know. That is one good reason to change to organic diary. Are the Bovine growth hormones/antibiotics prevalent in the UK? They contribute to hormonal abnormalities and other illnesses, i.e. breast/prostate cancer etc. in this country! I hope you don't have to deal with that too. Is your area densely populated? We are right outside the Detroit area. According to some internet sites, the air quality is not good here. Oxygen levels quite depleted as they are outside municipal areas! I would take it slow until you are able to regain your health and energy levels! God Bless, JoAnn marianne2406@a... wrote: > In a message dated 9/12/01 12:36:39 GMT Standard Time, dfnewman@a... > writes: > > Unfortunately one of my symptoms is breathlessness and deep breathing is > difficult, I do try to walk every day for a minimum of 30 minutes and that is > helping - once I have been on my 'alternatives' for a short while I am sure > that I will be able to build up to a faster walk that will get the heart > pumping. > > > I woulg sugest those deep breathing exercises but there air is so foul > > outside, in most places, you would have to be indoors > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2001 Report Share Posted December 10, 2001 In a message dated 9/12/01 22:09:56 GMT Standard Time, rob.bartlett writes: Oops, should read more carefully shoudn't I - thank you for sending the info anyway. Marianne > I don't work in a clinic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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