Let's Talk Worms!

[Guest guest]

Let's talk parasites, & I don't mean ice worms either. How many of

you have ever de-wormed yourselves? Oh come on, parasites is one of

those things " polite folk " stick their heads in the sand & refuse to

acknowledge. Bet ya got 'em anyway!

 

 

Vache

(the worms crawl in, the worms crawl out...)

[Guest guest]

vache920 wrote:

 

> Let's talk parasites, & I don't mean ice worms either. How many of

> you have ever de-wormed yourselves? Oh come on, parasites is one of

> those things " polite folk " stick their heads in the sand & refuse to

> acknowledge. Bet ya got 'em anyway!

 

Ehh....

 

How do you know when you have 'em?

 

And how do you get rid of 'em?

 

And how do you know when they're gone? *shudder* Dare I ask?

 

 

--

Mindy

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" ...that they may be one... "

- Jesus, John 17:22

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[Guest guest]

Evening Vache,

 

>Let's talk parasites, & I don't mean ice worms either. How many of

>you have ever de-wormed yourselves? Oh come on, parasites is one of

>those things " polite folk " stick their heads in the sand & refuse to

>acknowledge. Bet ya got 'em anyway!

 

Surprise ! ..... ME and 5 of my friends did it within the last few months.

We used a 3 part kit. Fiber, Tea and herbal capsule.

 

A few claim to feel better, others have some degree of proof, and I was

the only one that did not feel any better and could tell little difference.

 

I have always said, " I feel better when I am sick, than most do when they

are well " .

 

The one 48 year old female had a few problems. One was a very high

triglyceride level of over 2000. The only thing she did different during

the 2 month period was to take the parasite treatment and drink more water

and take 1/4 teaspoon of sea salt 3 times per day.

 

The results she obtained within the 60 day period are very impressive.

Her blood analysis shows that something amazing happened.

www.fugitt.com/blood/female48.jpg

 

I want to find some real live parasites someplace. Possibly I will have to

use my two dogs for samples.

 

Wayne

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Ditto!!

 

Bea

Email: bhurd

 

 

Mindy Behymer [mindy]

Sunday, December 02, 2001 6:57 PM

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Re: Let's Talk Worms!

 

vache920 wrote:

 

> Let's talk parasites, & I don't mean ice worms either. How many of

> you have ever de-wormed yourselves? Oh come on, parasites is one of

> those things " polite folk " stick their heads in the sand & refuse to

> acknowledge. Bet ya got 'em anyway!

 

Ehh....

 

How do you know when you have 'em?

 

And how do you get rid of 'em?

 

And how do you know when they're gone? *shudder* Dare I ask?

 

 

--

Mindy

-----------------------

" ...that they may be one... "

- Jesus, John 17:22

AIM: BirthJnky

ICQ: 114149

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Mindy,

 

Well, one would know they have them if them see them in the toilet

after they eliminate, though that would mean you are in pretty darn

infested state! Yikes! A very common way to determine parasite

infestation is by taking a fresh fecal sample to the lab where they

do what is called a " fecal float. " The eggs are supposed to float to

the top of the solution they put it in where they are then skimmed

off & type determined under a microscope. Problem is the lab tech

doing the fecal floats often misses " catching " what one is infected

with. Lab tech will later claim the sample brought in was not fresh

enough after a serious eruption hits the sampled person; though truth

be told many simply do not know what they are looking for, or are

(dare I say it) lazy in doing their job.

 

Fecal floats for horses are very common. Also the lab not seeing the

parasite indications in the equine floats is very common. Often a

major source of grumbling of wasted monies by the horse owner.

 

Certain parasites have typical side effects that one can often watch

for. What the specific side effects are I am not qualified to speak

upon, though I imagine a little web searching would turn up a lot of

info. I recall reading upon a bottle of off the shelf human wormer

in East Africa that thread worm often caused " spotted vision &

dizziness upon rising up. " And parents around the world have long

known that children scratching/digging at their bottoms is a strong

signal that the child may have pin worms.

 

Pin worms are so prevalent even in American society that medication

can be purchased over the counter in the pharmacy section of most

major drug stores such as Wal-Mart or Rite-Aid. Also, much to my

surprise I saw that one of the equine catalogs I receive sells

pyrantel pamoate paste to treat humans for pin worms.

 

And Wayne, if the parasite situation is ever serious enough that you

can see them in your pets stool, then it is highly likely you may

have them too.

 

 

Vache

(who does parasite cleanses upon a yearly basis)

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Decided to do a quick Google.com search using human parasites as the

search key. A lot of interesting imfo out there! And then this

funny:

 

Top 10 Reasons Why Parasites Like Humans

 

#10. Parasites live rent free and have no grocery bills.

#9. They get to party with all their family and friends for free.

#8. They get free air travel anywhere in the world their host

goes.

#7. Their previous landlord (cow, pig, chicken, fish, etc.) was

sacrificed and they had to find a new home - possibly in your

intestines.

#6. All the food that they want comes right to them HOT and the

human host gets to pay the bill.

#5. Many humans don't even know they exist in their intestinal tract

and have never done a parasite cleanse

#4. They like to scare humans with UFO sightings (Unidentified

Floating Objects).

#3. Humans are easy accessible through - air, food, water, pets,

etc.

#2. They like to find a warm place for the winter and out of the

rain in the summer.

#1. Parasites are like humans in a bus - if they don't like the one

they are in, they can easily transfer.

[Guest guest]

Evening Vache,

 

>>And Wayne, if the parasite situation is ever serious enough that you

> >>can see them in your pets stool, then it is highly likely you may

> >>have them too.

 

My dogs appear reasonably healthy. Of course I know that does not

count for anything relative to parasites.

 

What type parasites would the dogs have?

 

The thing about the " spit test " for candida got my attention.

 

I post this again, in case someone missed it.

 

The Spittle Test:

First thing upon arising in the morning, (even before clearing your mouth),

spit into a glass of water. If your spit remains floating, in a nice,

cohesive " blob " , you're probably pretty much Candida-free. However, if

after a moment, your spit begins to develop long strand-like tendrils that

dissolve down into the water, or if your spit spreads out over the surface

of the water, you probably have a Candida condition.

 

I don't think anyone said specifically " how long the float " is supposed to

last.

 

After a longer period that the one mentioned above, I did seen the " strand

like tendrils " .

 

So..... I remain confused.

 

If this parasite does exist in the saliva, why can I not prepare a slide

and find these with my microscope?

 

Any suggestions on how to prepare the slide?

 

This is one of the tasks I wanted to accomplish with the microscope. I

have found images of the candida on the web.

 

I am starting a collection of images as I can find them.

 

If anyone runs across images or parasites, please let me know.

 

Wayne

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Wayne & All,

 

I did a simple search on google this afternoon using the words human

parasite & I found a lot of sites that had links to picts of

parasites. Dig through & pick out the ones you like.

 

As for parasites from dogs tape & pin worm are the most common for a

person to contract, though not the only ones.

 

From being with horses I worry the most about pin worm. I just hate

going into a barn where everyone is rubbing their tail. Pin worm

eggs can be inhaled through the nose too ya know.

 

 

Vache

(i'll be sure to spit in a glass of water in the morning...)

[Guest guest]

Found this simple page on parasites. Good for a general primer on

how things work.

 

http://www.sc2000.net/~czaremba/explanations/worms.html

 

 

 

Vache

[Guest guest]

http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~mow/chap30.html

 

 

Ascaris lumbricoides and Trichuris trichiura

 

1. Name of the Organism:

Ascaris lumbricoides and Trichuris trichiura Humans worldwide are

infected with Ascaris lumbricoides and Trichuris trichiura; the eggs

of these roundworms (nematode) are " sticky " and may be carried to the

mouth by hands, other body parts, fomites (inanimate objects), or

foods.

 

2. Nature of Acute Disease: Ascariasis and trichuriasis are the

scientific names of these infections. Ascariasis is also known

commonly as the " large roundworm " infection and trichuriasis as " whip

worm " infection.

 

3. Nature of Disease: Infection with one or a few Ascaris sp. may be

inapparent unless noticed when passed in the feces, or, on occasion,

crawling up into the throat and trying to exit through the mouth or

nose. Infection with numerous worms may result in a pneumonitis

during the migratory phase when larvae that have hatched from the

ingested eggs in the lumen of the small intestine penetrate into the

tissues and by way of the lymph and blood systems reach the lungs. In

the lungs, the larvae break out of the pulmonary capillaries into the

air sacs, ascend into the throat and descend to the small intestine

again where they grow, becoming as large as 31 X 4 cm. Molting

(ecdysis) occurs at various points along this path and, typically for

roundworms, the male and female adults in the intestine are 5th-stage

nematodes. Vague digestive tract discomfort sometimes accompanies the

intestinal infection, but in small children with more than a few

worms there may be intestinal blockage because of the worms' large

size. Not all larval or adult worms stay on the path that is optimal

for their development; those that wander may locate in diverse sites

throughout the body and cause complications. Chemotherapy with

anthelmintics is particularly likely to cause the adult worms in the

intestinal lumen to wander; a not unusual escape route for them is

into the bile duct which they may occlude. The larvae of ascarid

species that mature in hosts other than humans may hatch in the human

intestine and are especially prone to wander; they may penetrate into

tissues and locate in various organ systems of the human body,

perhaps eliciting a fever and diverse complications.

Trichuris sp. larvae do not migrate after hatching but molt and

mature in the intestine. Adults are not as large as A. lumbricoides.

Symptoms range from inapparent through vague digestive tract distress

to emaciation with dry skin and diarrhea (usually mucoid). Toxic or

allergic symptoms may also occur.

 

 

4. Diagnosis of Human Illness: Both infections are diagnosed by

finding the typical eggs in the patient's feces; on occasion the

larval or adult worms are found in the feces or, especially for

Ascaris sp., in the throat, mouth, or nose.

 

5. Associated Foods: The eggs of these worms are found in

insufficiently treated sewage-fertilizer and in soils where they

embryonate (i.e., larvae develop in fertilized eggs). The eggs may

contaminate crops grown in soil or fertilized with sewage that has

received nonlethal treatment; humans are infected when such produce

is consumed raw. Infected foodhandlers may contaminate a wide variety

of foods.

 

6. Relative Frequency of Disease: These infections are cosmopolitan,

but ascariasis is more common in North America and trichuriasis in

Europe. Relative infection rates on other continents are not

available.

 

7. Course of Disease and Complications: Both infections may self-cure

after the larvae have matured into adults or may require anthelmintic

treatment. In severe cases, surgical removal may be necessary.

Allergic symptoms (especially but not exclusively of the asthmatic

sort) are common in long-lasting infections or upon reinfection in

ascariasis.

 

8. Target Populations: Particularly consumers of uncooked vegetables

and fruits grown in or near soil fertilized with sewage.

 

9. Food Analysis: Eggs of Ascaris spp. have been detected on fresh

vegetables (cabbage) sampled by FDA. Methods for the detection of

Ascaris spp. and Trichuris spp. eggs are detailed in the FDA's

Bacteriological Analytical Manual.

 

10. Selected Outbreaks: Literature references can be found at the

links below.

Although no major outbreaks have occurred, there are many

individual cases. The occurrence of large numbers of eggs in domestic

municipal sewage implies that the infection rate, especially with A.

lumbricoides, is high in the U.S.

Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Reports For more information on recent

outbreaks see the CDC.

 

11. Education and Background Resources: Literature references can be

found at the links below.

Loci index for genome Ascaris lumbricoides

Trichuris trichiura Available from the GenBank Taxonomy database,

which contains the names of all organisms that are represented in the

genetic databases with at least one nucleotide or protein sequence.

 

12. Molecular Structural Data: None currently available.

 

13. FDA Regulations or Activity: Ascarids and trichurids are

considered pathogens and foods eaten without further cooking should

not be contaminated with viable embryonated eggs of either genus.